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Plane landing

396 replies

Atadconfussed · 04/01/2023 16:28

Trigger warning flying for those that may not be keen … x

Am I being unreasonable to think that the below was a bit concerning / any pilots want to enlighten me?!
have flown a lot when younger / pre children but felt this was different

budget airline flight, approx 300 passengers Boeing 737
landing very wobbly on approach ( think close to runway)
huge bang on landing / touch down landing gear
worst bit!!! Very very intense what felt like attempts to break without slowing …. Loudest reverse thrust noise ever and the cabin shaking so so much
I felt pinned back in my seat and awaited a huge issue!
afterwards everyone was studded … one women crying and a few choice words heard through the cabin….
Thoughts please

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Bionesque · 05/01/2023 18:57

lieselotte · 05/01/2023 11:38

Yes Jersey airport is interesting. Not so bad landing if you come over the island, it glides down gently(ish) (and you get lovely views) but if you land from the sea you are over the sea until the last minute, more or less. I don't like taking off in the direction of the sea either - if they overshoot, you'd end up on the beach at best and in the sea at worst!

I'm not sure if my memory is tricking me, but I'm sure there was the wreckage of a light aircraft halfway down that drop-off at some point in the 80s!!

Moosiemoo14 · 05/01/2023 19:05

Loving this thread, thanks for starting it OP!

im an ex nervous flyer - used to not fly Ryanair because of that hard landing habit - but got over it through a ton of research on safety and doing that easyJet flying safety course. There’s loads of data out there confirming Ryanair and EasyJet have excellent safety records and a young fleet!

Toomuchtrouble4me · 05/01/2023 19:22

Just a bad landing. At least you landed alive. I don’t really get the point of this post - you had a shit landing. And…?

Georgyporky · 05/01/2023 19:24

I was on a flight either in or out of Cairns many years ago, which was subject to extreme turbulence.
The cheery Oz captain said something like "Hope you enjoyed the ride, Qantas do not charge extra for the fairground roller-coaster ride."

Wills · 05/01/2023 19:31

Had to tell you about my honeymoon (nearly 25 years ago). We went to Bali. 6 months before our wedding the airline we were flying with, Garuda, had a plane crash and all onboard died. In some ways I saw this as positive because it meant they'd suddenly be all over their planes double checking them. We boarded the flying YoYo (it had to land 3 times to refuel, though we didn't disembark at all) but had been 'upgraded' to door seats with loads of leg room. However this meant that we were opposite the airline host's seats. Both of them. Take off wasn't too bad. Landing was soooo scary. Nothing to do with bumping, swaying, air turbulence, loud noises etc. No it was the frantic praying to Buda that was somewhat disconcerting!

WetBandits · 05/01/2023 19:33

It’s very windy today, and you all survived. What did you want from this post?

Hopeistaysane · 05/01/2023 19:36

I’ve had loads of landings like that. Wind can cause the wobbling. The bang could be something on the runway. The reverse engines are always loud.

Namechangerr1 · 05/01/2023 19:50

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Communication trouble on December 24th 2022 😂

notimagain · 05/01/2023 19:52

Hopeistaysane · 05/01/2023 19:36

I’ve had loads of landings like that. Wind can cause the wobbling. The bang could be something on the runway. The reverse engines are always loud.

For the sake of the nervous can I mention that ideally there really shouldn't be anything of any size on the runway - at most airports frequent runway inspections are done by Air Traffic or Ops staff to make sure there's no debris lying that could be ingested into an engine or burst a tyre (dare I mention the AF Concorde accident as an example of the possible consequences?). If you look on the aviation tracker sites (e.g. Flightradar) you can sometimes see the Ops vehicles zipping up and down the runways at places like Heathrow every hour or so whilst the teams do their checks.

Loud bangs on landing or more likely maybe a function of the gear/shock absorbers, or more likely something in the cabin such as an item in the overhead lockers moving or something in the galley such as a trolley shifting.

LaDamaDeElche · 05/01/2023 19:54

Every time with Ryanair!

floofyhouse · 05/01/2023 20:00

tweedlee · 05/01/2023 11:57

@floofyhouse any reason why?

@tweedlee There were strong winds, 64mph according to the very informative (perhaps unhelpfully so!) seatback screens.

restingbitchface30 · 05/01/2023 20:12

I’m sure the pilot is well trained

cluele · 05/01/2023 20:26

To (mis)quote the wonderful cabin pressure:
"A firm landing is the safest kind"
"Well if that landing had been any safer it would have killed us"
My most exciting landing was arriving at Heathrow in a thunderstorm in the early 90s. We bailed at the last minute and diverted to Stansted, arriving at just the same time as the thunder storm. Was very bouncy, but we landed and as we touched down the oxygen masks were released.

Malbecfan · 05/01/2023 20:26

I've flown into Kai Tai on a 747 back in 1997 and it was amazing. Gutted it doesn't exist any more (but it's probably safer now). I also flew into Madeira in 1986 before the runway was extended. It was then 400 yards long and braking was pretty fierce.

I've been on a go-around with my cousin who was a nervous flyer then. This was a refuelling stop with British Caledonian (on a TriStar L1011 I think). The Captain was ultra-professional and came on the PA system immediately to explain what had happened and why - due to the previous a/c not vacating quickly enough.

One time coming back from Malaga to Exeter on an Embraer 195, the plane landed on the piano keys (threshold) and braked really hard to vacate at a particular taxiway. DH has a PPL and flies out of there, so we were very familiar with the layout. If the pilot had missed the taxiway, protocol dictated he had to taxi to the end of the runway, do a U turn and taxi back again. We joked that his pint was probably on the bar getting warm, hence him trying to save 5 minutes.

This Big Jet TV clip is presenter Jerry flying with the utterly calm and professional Captain Zane Dunning, following the Storm Eunice show someone linked to earlier in the thread. Jerry was invited by Virgin to their simulators where he "flew" the Boeing 787, firstly in calm conditions, then in a crosswind, and then in Storm Eunice conditions, and they showed him how to do a go-around. Although I haven't flown commercially since then (I have with DH in a baby Cessna), it is really reassuring. Enjoy!

MarvellousMonsters · 05/01/2023 20:42

But, did you die??

I mean, the plane landed, it was bumpy, but no damage or injuries.

Kinnorafron · 05/01/2023 20:46

Pleasepleasepleaseno · 05/01/2023 17:49

I was once on a flight where the cabin crew forgot to properly shut the oven(?) doors so all the food, and plates and trays flew out and crashed into the aisle on take off!
Once everyone got over the shock.from the enormous crash we realised we had no bloody food. Still since it didnt mean the plane was broken and we were all going to die nobody seemed to mind too much 😆

I was on a flight once where a load of ice had formed in the aircon ducts in the roof - the change of attitude and speed sent a lot of ice crystals free and they cascaded down - the noise was loud and unexpected and we were all just a bit stunned until we realised what it was and everything was OK.

SomewhereInTheMIdlands · 05/01/2023 20:54

Hard landings are actually safer if it is windy, wet or shortrunway. Some good vids on YouTube re this subject.

Pedallleur · 05/01/2023 21:00

Passengers who know nothing about flying worrying about stuff they can't control yet will get in a car and are happy to drive in traffic. Pilots don't get the job by just an interview. It's annual medical and twice yearly qualification on the aircraft. The crew want to get home safely as well. Sometimes landings aren't smooth. It's 70 tons of aircraft obeying the laws of aerodynamics.

Wiluli · 05/01/2023 21:02

Quite a few landings are like this . There is always someone a bit dramatic that cries or makes a fuss . Just take a look at the air stewardesses if they are ok then all is ok

namechange4774 · 05/01/2023 21:07

Two flights that stand out for me. One was our honeymoon. It was tropical and we were flying through storms I swear it felt like we were just dropping out the sky at times. Then for the landing the pilot missed the runway so have to suddenly shoot back up. It frighten the life out of me.

Second was Las Vegas which I believe also has a bad rep for turbulence. Well both my DH and the lady I was sat next to were green. And at one point a group of very drunk Americans started screaming 'we are all going to die.' I laughed when we landed 😂

Atadconfussed · 05/01/2023 21:14

I have enjoyed seeing the responses on here :) so many people with so much knowledge. I have learnt so much so thank you. Also very interesting to see how some people clearly only post to attempt to gain a reaction / undermine or twist an original post…. It’s actually quite an amusing / unexpected bonus for me to read these attempts…. #bekind #mustbesobored #iwishyoujoy #carryoniwontberesponding

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FettleOfKish · 05/01/2023 21:17

Georgyporky · 04/01/2023 17:46

Somewhere upthread, instrument landing in fog was mentioned.
I flew into Madeira recently & twice the attempt at landing was aborted because of low cloud. We ended up in Fuerteventura, via Porto Santo , overnight.

Any ideas why landing with instruments is OK in fog, but not cloud ?

@Georgyporky Not all airports have the necessary equipment for low visibility landings. Jersey and Guernsey are both semi-regularly crippled by fog, flights can get out if they aircraft is already here, but not in.

Most regular fliers to either island will have experienced at least one holding pattern followed by a diversion and overnight stay elsewhere. All the fun of island life Confused

MummyFliesAeroplanes · 05/01/2023 21:34

@notimagain I’m intrigued by the breadth of your aviation references from Kai Tak to navy flying. What types have you flown?

G2002 · 05/01/2023 21:35

UWhatNow · 04/01/2023 16:51

Wow! Mumsnet nailed it on page 1. We all know what to avoid now!

I used to be easyjet crew from Bristol and I can confirm that they are the hairiest of landings! Nothing I ever had at BA subsequently event came close!

MummyFliesAeroplanes · 05/01/2023 21:38

@TeresaCrowd In my company, only Captains are allowed to do the landings & takeoffs at Innsbruck and have to have special training.

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