Plane landing

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Trigger warning flying for those that may not be keen … x

Am I being unreasonable to think that the below was a bit concerning / any pilots want to enlighten me?!
have flown a lot when younger / pre children but felt this was different

budget airline flight, approx 300 passengers Boeing 737
landing very wobbly on approach ( think close to runway)
huge bang on landing / touch down landing gear
worst bit!!! Very very intense what felt like attempts to break without slowing …. Loudest reverse thrust noise ever and the cabin shaking so so much
I felt pinned back in my seat and awaited a huge issue!
afterwards everyone was studded … one women crying and a few choice words heard through the cabin….
Thoughts please

Every RyanAir flight lands like this - like the runway has jumped up to meet you! Landing at Leeds gives you whiplash.

For info finally found a copy (albeit boot leg)...

aviation-is.better-than.tv/B737NG_FCTM_(31-10-05).pdf

This is Boeing's Flight Crew Training Manual for the 737 NG....the chapter and verse, how to do etc, for all airlines, not just Ryanair...

Page 6.10...the bit about landings:

" Do not extend the flare by increasing pitch attitude in an attempt to achieve a perfectly smooth touchdown. Do not attempt to hold the nose wheels off the runway."

and under 6.23 "Factors Affecting Landing Distance".

"Floating above the runway before touchdown must be avoided because it uses a large portion of the available runway. The airplane should be landed as near the normal touchdown point as possible. Deceleration rate on the runway is
approximately three times greater than in the air."

My favourite is Bratislava-Vienna.

I mean, which country is this airport meant to be in?

I was coming on here to say Sumburgh for exactly the reasons you mention. Only landing I have ever parted company from the seat on landing!

Worst was Southampton though, heavy ground fog and we made repeated attempts at landing I can't remember how long we were circling but it was nearing an hour. We made 4 approaches and decents because the ground fog was clearing then it blew in again by the time we were on approach and up we went. Pilot announced it was our last attempt before aborting and diverting to London when we made it down. Somewhere I have a screen shot of the AIS track. It looked like a coiled spring. The landing was fine, but the experience was very tedious and it was late at night and I'd missed my train. That's what made it the worst.

I think it was Britannia?

I flew Ryanair this summer and tbh it didn’t seem bad at all. But I’ve done a lot of regional US flights, and my local Maine airport is pretty small, so I’m used to landing in small planes on short runways. I think my expectations may be low :-)

A few years ago a plane landed at a Maine airport - not my local one, but a smaller one that DD used to fly in and out of regularly - and the pilot genuinely believed she’d landed on the runway. She was nowhere near it. The snow was so deep they had to get a snowplow to clear a route to the plane before anyone could disembark.

I do love an aviation thread.
There’s some great posts on here ( very informative ).

Anyone been to visit Concorde at Filton?

Worst landing for me was at Heathrow from Brussels. Cross winds, pouring with rain, at night. Overhead lockers rattling like mad. Female pilot did a great job in those conditions.

Flew CMB to FRA this week, great flight, very soft landing.
Bristol is well-known for adverse conditions, but the only time I have ever experience a go-around was at Zuerich, which is generally acknowledged in the aviation world (OH is a Lufthansa pilot with nearly 40 years' experince) as being a tricky place to navigate.
Most turbulent flight was FRA to Berlin-Tegel, excellent rollercoaster effects which I love.

I fly from Bristol quite often and it can be quite an abrupt landing, used to it now though!
I flew Newcastle-Bristol in September, the pilot had mentioned some bad weather already, we dipped below the clouds to land and saw lightning strike just out the window! The plane zoomed back up in what felt like a vertical ascent (but I'm sure was perfectly normal) and we ended up diverting to Liverpool where we sat on the tarmac for 3 hrs until we could get a slot back.

I fly to Samos in Greece most years, that is a very entertaining landing on a tiny bit of flat ground between the sea and a mountain! Had a few failed landings there due to cross winds.

Yes Jersey airport is interesting. Not so bad landing if you come over the island, it glides down gently(ish) (and you get lovely views) but if you land from the sea you are over the sea until the last minute, more or less. I don't like taking off in the direction of the sea either - if they overshoot, you'd end up on the beach at best and in the sea at worst!

@floofyhouse any reason why?

It's utter bollocks to suggest Ryanair flies in a different way to any other airline.

@Nineteen60s
@notimagain

Thank you both, that explains it.

I thinks due to their popular routes and the general feeling of disorganised running that adds to this. For example I only flew with when people was running across the tarmac to get the best seats. After that he'll, everything shit about the flight was heightened. People was still fighting over sears when we had left the departure spot

Another question has just occurred to me.
I always understood that allocated seats were to help identify the bodies if the plane went down.
However, I used to fly the shuttle Heathrow to Glasgow & seating was a scrum.
And on a recent half-empty flight we were allowed to change seats after take-off.
Why did this change ?

Allocate seats are there to avoid a scrum not to identify bodies!

@Georgyporky

I always understood that allocated seats were to help identify the bodies if the plane went down.

Nope, AFAIK that's never been a reason...

I’m sorry but you are wrong. Each airline will ask/encourage their pilots to fly with whatever approach they want. Most airlines general instruction is get the plane on the ground and it’s up to you who you do it. Ryanair are well known for encouraging their pilots to make firm landings. I don’t want to reveal who I am or what I do but I can say this with 110% certainty

I don’t want to reveal who I am or what I do but I can say this with 110% certainty

not good at maths though 😂

Allocated seats especially on a half full flight is for weight and balance. It's ok to move after take off.

A US colleague of mine describes them as “Navy landings”. US naval pilots train to land on aircraft carriers with 300m to play with so bang the plane down at the first possible opportunity then slam on the brakes. As opposed to “Air Force landings” which glide down onto long runways and come to an elegant halt. Unsurprisingly my colleague is ex US Navy!

The main point about carrier landings isn't really just the deck length and in any event mostly brakes aren't used until taxiing.

The driver for the hard carrier landings is the need (on most types to engage one the cables) and there's not much to aim at.

As a result so there no f'ing around trying to make a smooth landing, the pilots just drive the down the approach and straight into the deck.

@Afflt You beat me to it! 😂

You're 10 miles away from the city centre, £35 taxi or £8 on the bus.