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Would you rather stay in U.K. or aus

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whytesnow · 02/01/2023 23:40

And what's your reasons? Just had a crazy idea to move over as I don't have any commitments here and life is getting boring for me here

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Cuppasoupmonster · 03/01/2023 19:21

Mybonnielad · 03/01/2023 16:43

I am just going to comment on your weather and healthy liftestyle. Firstly your lifestyle is all you, you either choose to be healthy or you don’t. If you don’t currently have a healthy lifestyle, then arriving in Australia is not going to change that

Patently untrue and very offensive to the thousands of people who are ill through no fault of their own.

Well I’m ‘ill’ through no fault of my own but I don’t think the poster meant it like that. However I think he/she is wrong - it is infinitely more tempting and do-able to walk places, go for runs, and live an active lifestyle when it isn’t 10 degrees and pissing down for 50% of the year. Take last weekend - rained all fucking weekend, and very windy. We’d planned to take the dog and DD to a local beach for a long stroll - cancelled. Thought if it cleared up we could take DD to the park. It didn’t - cancelled. The garden needs sorting - too wet. I wanted to walk into town to go to a couple of shops - didn’t, thought I would put it off for another day. And on it goes. We must waste at least half our days sat inside waiting for the rain to stop, and that’s no exaggeration. Indoor activities always cost so much money that you can’t do them all the time and being out in the fresh air is so much nicer anyway, physically and mentally.

RocketIceLollie · 03/01/2023 19:27

I went for an extended Christmas holiday ten years ago when I was single (we have a lot my Mum's side of the family there in Melbourne) and I had an eye on making the move thereafter. It was going great, great lifestyle there, but it hit me on Christmas Day hearing my parents on the phone I couldn't do it. Also, with Australia it's very expensive there. Just your day to day grocery is notably more expensive, and hardly anyone seems to own their own property.

VoiceOfCommonSense · 03/01/2023 19:33

Whammyyammy · 03/01/2023 19:06

I love both UK and Aus, and the people in both.
But I am petrified of spiders, and there a big no to Oz for that reason.

Honestly I’ve been here for 11 years and hardly seen any. A few while cleaning out the garage but it’s not like they were poisonous. People seem to have this impression that the place is full of spiders, snakes and sharks.

PandoraRocks · 03/01/2023 19:40

Why would you want to live in a country with Huntsman spiders? Gives me the shudders just looking at them! 😱

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:49

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 16:42

It’s not so much which country produces more carbon for me but which countries will feel the impact more.

I’d factor that in to any move. There’s probably not that much in it for U.K. v Aus in some ways - depends on how things pan out but some countries are already suffering more

Yeah - climate change will likely lead to the gulf stream shutting down, which means that the UK freezes. Deep, Canadian style cold. I think that climate change may end up hitting the UK really hard and really suddenly.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 19:52

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:49

Yeah - climate change will likely lead to the gulf stream shutting down, which means that the UK freezes. Deep, Canadian style cold. I think that climate change may end up hitting the UK really hard and really suddenly.

I have looked at this and it would make me move, but no timing on when. So it could be after I’m gone but I will get dc passports just in case.

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:54

PandoraRocks · 03/01/2023 19:40

Why would you want to live in a country with Huntsman spiders? Gives me the shudders just looking at them! 😱

I always thought that that was such a strange reason to not move countries - a pretty harmless spider that you might see once a year? I just catch them with a plastic container and put then outside.

Cookiecrumblepie · 03/01/2023 19:58

Healthcare alone makes me want to move to Aus. I am currently healthy, but if I had any serious illness or started ageing, I would move. The NHS is broken. I don't want to die waiting for treatment.

LadyMary50 · 03/01/2023 19:58

wyntersuhn · 03/01/2023 02:20

I'm English, living in Australia and would never, ever contemplate moving back. The lifestyle here is amazing. Even if you're on the bare bones of your butt, you can go outside pretty much every day of the year and enjoy a walk, a trip to the park, the beach etc. It's glorious. Wages match living costs, but we do have a rental crisis at present, so buying a house is the best option. Healthy food is cheap, exercise is cheap, healthcare is easily accessible (and mostly free or you can get health insurance to go private), you can choose what school your children go to and move them easily if you want. Plenty of people are moving here right now, for the reasons above (partly why we have a rental problem). Lots of space, you don't have to live in your neighbour's pocket and most people have large gardens with beautiful parks nearby. Most places have good public transport (we're at the beach on holidays at present and my nephew and niece will be catching the train down shortly - pretty much door to door, plus safe, quick, reliable and cheap). Contrary to popular opinion, we're not inundated with snakes, spiders and sharks, they are an incredibly rare occurrence. Honestly, the best place to live, I wouldn't be anywhere else.

You took the words right out of my mouth.My daughter moved to Melbourne 20yrs ago after doing a working holiday the previous year,she now has a beautiful home,an Aussie partner and 2 children.I visit whenever I get the chance and I bloody love it.I love the space,the incredible transport system,the friendly people and of course the lovely weather.If I was 30yrs younger I would be living there in a heartbeat.I couldn’t wish for a better place for my grandkids to live and grow.

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:59

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 19:52

I have looked at this and it would make me move, but no timing on when. So it could be after I’m gone but I will get dc passports just in case.

Australian passports? I'm pretty sure that Australia will not be up for accepting loads of European climate refugees travelling on foreign passports when the Gulf Stream shuts down. And with the increasing rate of climate change I would certainly not bank on it happening "after I'm gone".

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 20:01

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 19:59

Australian passports? I'm pretty sure that Australia will not be up for accepting loads of European climate refugees travelling on foreign passports when the Gulf Stream shuts down. And with the increasing rate of climate change I would certainly not bank on it happening "after I'm gone".

Yep I’m dual citizen. Have both and so can dc.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 20:02

Re when it will happen people seem more certain than others, maybe they should get their views out there.

MargaretMead · 03/01/2023 20:03

You’re still young enough to get a working visa so I would go for it and see how it feels. You can come back if you don’t settle. If you are thinking about moving long term though, Aus is supposed to be getting hotter and drier with climate change, and the summer heat is already extreme in some areas so choose your location with care.

Alexandra2001 · 03/01/2023 20:04

echt · 03/01/2023 00:43

Australia is fucking awful in every way possible. Stay where you are.

My BiL has lived there for 22 years, he came back a while ago and said he will never return to the UK again.
Neighbours went there about 10 years ago and have never back since...

My DD will be there in March, she's been there before and loved it, will work in their healthservice from NHS.

Most brits who emigrate don't come back.

Cantstandbullshitanymore · 03/01/2023 20:08

whytesnow · 03/01/2023 00:55

What draws me to aus is the weather healthy lifestyle when am here and it's cold i don't want to leave the house, workout or go a walk but in the summer i love doing those things.I love that it's just like the U.K. but sunny almost all my friends have settled down here I split up with my ex a year ago so newly single, plus they have changed the age to 35 for a working visa I will be 34 this year

So OP, did you get the answer you were looking for? Lol

Ariautec · 03/01/2023 20:09

Definitely Australia. Life in GB is increasingly tough and with little quality in goods or services.
I'm encouraging my DC’s to go and live abroad, if they can. Make the most of their lives.

LadyMary50 · 03/01/2023 20:13

LunaRegis · 03/01/2023 16:33

Have you ever been there? If you can get a visa I’d go there to work but not to live. It’s always been NZ for me as all of my lot are there. Although I have family in Oz too.

@PinkPrettyAndPointed Our accents are no better or worse than some accents I came across in the UK. What an Aussie would never do is fake an accent like I knew a few British people do so their true accent wasn't judged.

You got that so right! I’ve never understood the fake accent thing.

It’s the fake cockney accent that grates on me.No true born cockney speaks like Danny Dyer,awful fake accent..

StClare101 · 03/01/2023 20:14

I find it so odd that people will be so vitriolic about another country when their own is on its knees.

Cuppasoupmonster · 03/01/2023 20:16

StClare101 · 03/01/2023 20:14

I find it so odd that people will be so vitriolic about another country when their own is on its knees.

Oh the middle classes in England love to think they’re the most enlightened, multicultural, renaissance people in the world. They only want to live in white areas, though.

AliceMcK · 03/01/2023 20:18

Only read a handful of responses, all negative. I have several friends who have settled in Aus and love it. My DH moved there many years ago and hated it, I know I’d happily live there.

Things you need to think about:

Visas - you might get a temporary visa but it’s not that easy to live permanently unless you have either married an Ozzie or in a job in demand that sponsor you to stay there.

Climate - not everywhere in Aus is hot and some of the hot places aren’t somewhere you’d necessarily want to live.

Hospitality - Not everywhere is very welcoming to immigrants and English people. Some areas are great, I’d join some ex-pat forums and find the right places to look at. A friend of mine looked into a police recruitment drive, he would have had to reduce ranks but then found out a lot of British cops returned due to bullying so passed on it.

Cost of living - you won’t be entitled to any benefits, will have to pay for health care. Most decent jobs will pay enough to cover basic living but if you loose your job you’d be screwed.

It sounds like your keen for a change, I would definitely do it, I did it many years ago, just not Aus, no regrets, it was a great adventure. I’ve been to Aus a few times, it’s definitely a great place, loads to see, do and enjoy. My all time favourite thing about Aus (other than the wine) is the food, absolutely amazing culinary experience, so much variety and so fresh.

Go for it, even if it’s just a year waiting tables and travelling, enjoy yourself.

emptythelitterbox · 03/01/2023 20:19

StartupRepair · 03/01/2023 09:44

If you are not wealthy in UK, going to Australia will not suddenly change that. If you are highly educated with good professional qualifications and experience you will enjoy a good standard of living in either country.

That pretty much sums it up.
Add white to it.
If you like sport and drinking.

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 20:19

Cuppasoupmonster · 03/01/2023 20:16

Oh the middle classes in England love to think they’re the most enlightened, multicultural, renaissance people in the world. They only want to live in white areas, though.

I don’t relate to this. I live in London and prefer it due to the diversity and size of city.

Aus is very nice in many ways but for big cities London is up there for me.

I know we’re all different though. People get defensive on both sides, including those in Aus and comments like this. What I like doesn’t have to be what others want - why should it be live and let live I say.

walkinthewoodstoday · 03/01/2023 20:20

@whytesnow only you can know. It depends on what job you do. Do you know anyone out there already? What about parents in the UK? Could be a great adventure but is there any way you can do it as a year thing? It certainly sounds good, but the grass might not be greener.

StClare101 · 03/01/2023 20:21

BedTaker · 03/01/2023 08:50

2 hours on a plane from the UK - completely different culture, different architecture, different food, different language, different things to see, different weather, endless possibilities really.

2 hours on a plane from Australia - a town/city exactly the same as the one you just left, desert with nothing for hundreds of miles around, or....the sea.

Also, I found the people there very racist, although it was a good while ago now and I would hope that is changing.

I can just about understand moving to the East/South East Coast. But why so many Brits move to Perth is absolutely beyond me!

People move to Perth because of the climate. Summers are 30 degrees every day and not a cloud in the sky. Beaches are amazing as are the coastal walks. Traffic isn’t too bad. Schools are good.

I don’t live there but I get the appeal.

writingsonthewall · 03/01/2023 20:33

I would love to live in Australia. Spent a couple of years there when I was younger as did my h. We both want to go but it's too late for us as we have children from previous marriages so can't leave really. Go now while you still have the choice. You can always come back if you don't like it (and may have to if you can't sort a permanent visa!)

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