Would you rather stay in U.K. or aus

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And what's your reasons? Just had a crazy idea to move over as I don't have any commitments here and life is getting boring for me here

Ideally October because then you can get a bit acclimatised to the weather before it gets really hot. You can then scope out some suburbs in your chosen location and schools before the summer holidays. School years run from February to December and unlike the UK, there are only 12 school years, not 13, and your DC will be in the year below the one they are in currently in the UK. Some people say education isn’t as good as the UK but private schools such as Catholic ones, are much more affordable. Some non-dom schools, Anglican, Methodist etc., are more expensive but you cut your cloth to your own means.

That post was for @Oakbeam

I’d factor in climate change to any move

That post was for @Oakbeam

I suspect you really meant @bumblenbean

Thanks @JoanOfAllTrades and @Oakbeam !

Do a WHV or holiday and see what you think.

For me the UK but there are so many variables and you need to see which place suits you.

@bumblenbean I'm so sorry, I just got a bit confused 😳

To be honest our crumbling A&Es are more of an imminent concern to me than climate change.

I actually just spoke to DH about this while looking out the window at the grey cloud and pissing rain, then reading the forecast which says we can expect 1 day without rain in the next 2 weeks (and even then, just cloudy). I would dearly love to move anywhere that has a better climate, English speaking and relatively safe with reasonable public services. But I just don’t know how to go about it and my profession isn’t transferable. Absolutely sucks.

Love it in Australia. I'd move tomorrow if I could. I prefer pretty much everything there to our grey UK

Have you ever been there? If you can get a visa I’d go there to work but not to live. It’s always been NZ for me as all of my lot are there. Although I have family in Oz too.

@PinkPrettyAndPointed Our accents are no better or worse than some accents I came across in the UK. What an Aussie would never do is fake an accent like I knew a few British people do so their true accent wasn't judged.

You got that so right! I’ve never understood the fake accent thing.

This!

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Just an FYI to the “climate change” concerned posters. You do know the ozone layer above Australia has healed itself? And solar power is really encouraged as well. And there are a lot of hybrid vehicles available on the market now. Since the winters in some places are very mild, there’s not much call for heating either.

There’s a useful little website called datacommons.com and you can compare Australia to the UK on all sorts of things.

Now, per capita, on the surface, it appears as though Australia is really not winning any prizes for carbon emissions.

However, if you then compare the two countries using MetricTon to try to discern which country actually pumps out more carbon emissions, the UK loses out to Australia. Possibly because Harry and Meghan do love jetting around in private planes so who knows how much just they added to the emissions last year!

But on a serious note, check out that website, you can compare the two countries by searching for one country then under any graph that you would like more information about, there’s a “explore more” that you can use and then you can put in the other country.

Very useful little website indeed!

Oh yes, life expectancy is higher in Australia, possibly because people in the UK drink more alcohol than Australians 😂

It’s not so much which country produces more carbon for me but which countries will feel the impact more.

I’d factor that in to any move. There’s probably not that much in it for U.K. v Aus in some ways - depends on how things pan out but some countries are already suffering more

For me, it would be too far away from Europe where I grew up all my life and where I live. Although I get why you're considering moving to Australia. UK got very depressing. Comment about horrible TV in Aus killed me. Almost like TV in the UK is great. I don't even pay TV licence, I don't want this nonsense at home.

I am just going to comment on your weather and healthy liftestyle. Firstly your lifestyle is all you, you either choose to be healthy or you don’t. If you don’t currently have a healthy lifestyle, then arriving in Australia is not going to change that

Patently untrue and very offensive to the thousands of people who are ill through no fault of their own.

There’s no TV licence in Australia! But there is free to view TV, quite a few channels, such as 7, 9, ABC, SBS, 10, maybe some others….. And there’s foxtel which is like Sky, Netflix, Britbox, Disney+, Prime, and others that are available as subscriptions through Prime.

I never had any inclination to visit Australia until I met and married an Australian! I have been lucky enough to visit NSW/Sydney three times over the past 5 years.

There is alot to consider - if you are after a healthy lifestyle its an incredible place - fantastic food, beaches etc. The people are friendly if not quite blunt, public transport is SO cheap.

However, unless you shell out to live in a city, you will be out in a suburban sprawl.

When their summer/autumns are wet, the bugs are OUT OF CONTROL. Expect to see giant fucking spiders hanging from lampposts and trees.

They are having more and more issues with climate change.

As PP pointed out, it takes fucking ages to get anywhere.

DH and I are both dual nationals and have lived 10+ years in both during our marriage. Currently in UK and no desire to return to Aus.

Be aware that Aus education system is not great when compared to some others. Both our kids were substantially behind when we moved to Asia and into the international schools. Some European international schools flatly refused to take kids from the Aus education system as there's no way they'd catch up.

At school, sports is the top. If you're smart but not sporty you'll have a tough time as academia is not valued at many places. It's not cool to be smart in a lot of schools (not all) unlike here.

There's a lot of "China is evil" in the press. Ask Chinese Australians if it's a racist place. The casual racism is pervasive in society and something we really notice when back.

Plus you'll age really quickly ha ha. I seriously look 15 years younger than my school friends after almost 20 years living outside Aus in various stints.

I have been lucky enough to visit NSW/Sydney three times over the past 5 years.

But you've only visited, not lived there. People who've only visited don't understand the realities of life in Australia.

It depends on the jobs and where you live I suppose. We are in Queensland and it’s a lot cheaper compared to New South Wales or Victoria. Cost of living is more but I get paid about 4 times what I did in a similar UK role. Not to mention all the positives especially where we live if beaches, rainforests and tons of other activities. It’s not for everyone, we still get homesick but go back every few years to see friends and family and go on European breaks. My advice to anyone would be to do the sums (I would use seek.com.au for salary information) and if they look ok go over on holiday for a bit and see how you like it. Chances are if your occupation is on the skills list it should be a well paid profession. Just depends how many kids you have and if your partner works as well etc. After 11 years i would never leave!!

I love both UK and Aus, and the people in both.
But I am petrified of spiders, and there a big no to Oz for that reason.

UK. My family and friends are too important to me to only see them once every few years. There's nothing Australia can offer which is more important than them.