Would you rather stay in U.K. or aus

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And what's your reasons? Just had a crazy idea to move over as I don't have any commitments here and life is getting boring for me here

As for how the Indigenous people are treated, we are voting and changing where we can. Education is important for anyone entering Australia and you should take it on yourself to learn the truth and experience of the Indigenous population of the area you want to live.

It really depends where you are - you are much more likely to see those in the warmer parts of the country.

In inner city Melbourne, I get the odd bug inside. I've never seen a snake and most spiders are not very big. The worst thing I get inside are flies.

I lived in Oz for two years in Perth WA. I was glad to be back, I found it very difficult to settle there. It was bloody expensive. The cost of living was difficult, I found it better in the UK. Even though dhs work paid ok, it wasn’t brilliant and not one of his better ideas. We seemed to struggle money wise there, but not here in the UK. Same job.
Weather was great and yes, you need to be able to drive as that makes life easier.

I love that it's just like the U.K. but sunny

OP if you are serious about moving you need to get this idea out your head, Australia is not the UK with sun, it is a completely different way of life and culture, this is why so many expats end up coming back to the UK because they think like you do and are blindsided when the penny drops.

FFS Could we stop with the spiders? I lived for decades on the Northern Beaches of Sydney. Prime funnel web location ( that's a venomous spider) Never even saw one.
Nobody has died from a funnel web spider in decades. I actually don't know of anyone dying from a spider bite since anti-venom was devised decades ago.
You are much more likely to get killed by driving to the local stables ( car accident) and if that doesn't get you being thrown off a horse. Pretty sure that is just as likely in the UK.
If you think it is a horrible place - fine - don't come - but please stop pretending we are all being killed by spiders! Gah!

No need to be afraid. We don't want you here judging by that post.

Exactly, the damage caused by British invasion has taken way too long to repair, but there's been a huge amount of progress lately, with the Uluru Statement from the Heart, and a referendum on an indigenous voice to Parliament coming very soon.

The majority of Australians voted for a new government who promised to make these things happen.

The minority whose party lost the election? Well they're same sort of people who'd vote for a right wing, racist, self serving government in the UK too - and did.

I’m currently in Australia.

If you can get a working holiday visa, go for it! It is a great way to see another part of the world and experience a similar but different lifestyle.

Your initial post didn’t reference a working holiday which is quite different to a permanent move and that might explain some of the more negative responses upthread.

I need to comment on the weather though - Australia is a huge country and it gets both much hotter and much colder than in the UK. The Australian snowfields are fantastic and make Aviemore and the Cairngorms(as lovely as they are) look like a joke. Houses tend to be poorly insulated so you will feel the cold here far more than in the UK. And it is currently lunchtime and too hot for me to go out. So…extremes.

Lived in the UK for about a year. Didnt like it at all, so we left again. We have no ties there though, so maybe thats why.
Moved to Aus and stayed 4 years. It was just wonderful. Great people, lifestyle, weather, beautiful landscapes. Everything is quite spread out, so you do need to drive to get around easily.
The only thing i missed was my family and short city trips to other countries. Europe is just much better for that obviously. There are lots of weekend getaway options within Aus though!
We moved back when my second child was born, because i wanted to be with my family. But every time we go back to visit it just feels like home again.

I think we managed a whole week before the next Australia bashing thread.
I would never consider leaving in the uk. The attitude to anything even slightly different to what is considered normal or acceptable, the superiority complex and the talking down to us peasants in other countries.

I spent 10 years in London and would never go back to live. You don't appreciate how fucking dirty, noisy, rude and overcrowded the place is until you step away.

I moved home to Aus 4 years ago, live just out of Melbourne and love it. But I'm glad to be near family and friends mostly.

To the previous dickish posts slagging Aus, I'll just clarify some things

• Amazon is brilliant. Same service we got in London
• Everyone has streaming services, otherwise yes same shit tv as the UK
• Weather is 1000 times better than UK
• We are a long way from other places. Lucky us 🙂
• Our accents are no better or worse than some accents I came across in the UK. What an Aussie would never do is fake an accent like I knew a few British people do so their true accent wasn't judged

I'm in Aus and would never move back to the U.K.
The heat is only very hot Jan/feb and even then most places have aircon and you can still get out morning and later afternoon. We tend to stay in during the hottest part of the day. The rest of the year is bloody beautiful.

I can get a gp appointment the next day, investigations within a week or two and the healthcare system is not crumbling.
The schools have enough teachers.

Cost of living is high but petrol is half the price and wages are a lot higher. We have bought a place here which we couldn't afford to do in the U.K.
People are a lot nicer, generally look on the brighter side of life, not constantly complaining. People exercise more and get outside a lot more. I also find people are a lot more open to adult friendships and making new friends because there are a lot of expats here.

We are far from Europe but 4 hours by plane to Fiji, New Zealand, Bali, Indonesia. 9 hours to Thailand and Hawaii etc. Plus so many beautiful places to see within Australia too.

If you can do a working holiday for six month, I'd go for it. You only live once.

Lovely. Another Australia bashing thread. Thanks.

We're completely different but comparable. Each country has its own benefits. So please stop the superiority rubbish.

We might be a long way from Europe but have NZ and the South Pacific, but don't need to get on a plane for diversity. We have stunning - and deserted - white sand beaches, or rural getaways where you don't see another soul. All within easy driving distance for most of us. Bliss.

I live on a mountain in Southern QLD and it's rarely baking hot.

I'm English, living in Australia and would never, ever contemplate moving back. The lifestyle here is amazing. Even if you're on the bare bones of your butt, you can go outside pretty much every day of the year and enjoy a walk, a trip to the park, the beach etc. It's glorious. Wages match living costs, but we do have a rental crisis at present, so buying a house is the best option. Healthy food is cheap, exercise is cheap, healthcare is easily accessible (and mostly free or you can get health insurance to go private), you can choose what school your children go to and move them easily if you want. Plenty of people are moving here right now, for the reasons above (partly why we have a rental problem). Lots of space, you don't have to live in your neighbour's pocket and most people have large gardens with beautiful parks nearby. Most places have good public transport (we're at the beach on holidays at present and my nephew and niece will be catching the train down shortly - pretty much door to door, plus safe, quick, reliable and cheap). Contrary to popular opinion, we're not inundated with snakes, spiders and sharks, they are an incredibly rare occurrence. Honestly, the best place to live, I wouldn't be anywhere else.

UK for me

Other than a few teeny, tiny ones, haven't see a decent sized spider for years. Unless you count the plastic one that my kids like to hide around the house to scare each other. Most houses are sprayed for spiders yearly, they really aren't a problem.

I live in Scotland and am very happy here but if I were younger I would love to try a working holiday in Australia. Both my husband and I have relatives in/near Melbourne and I have friends in Townsville but I really fancy Sydney with the Opera House and beautiful beaches. If I ever come into any money I will holiday there.

oh yeah and free public barbecues in almost every public park.

If you can get a WHV I'd do it especially before time runs out. If you don't like it you can go home. It's not the UK but sunny though and be careful where you move if you want sun. I found winter in Melbourne really tough and in summer it can be unbearable heat. Sydney, Brisbane and Perth all have more reliable sunshine.

We are British and moved to Melbourne nearly 6 years ago when I was offered an amazing job opportunity. We live 2 minutes from the beach in a much nicer house than we could afford in the UK. Some things cost more here, like meat for example, but the supermarkets are reasonably priced in general and wages are higher in line with that. Clothing costs about the same as the UK and petrol is much cheaper.
There are many fabulous restaurants and cafes here and we really notice the difference in the quality of food when we go back to the UK where food often seems more bland and processed.
Overall, Australians are very friendly and chatty but, like anywhere, there are good and bad people. We also mix with a lot of Expats from across the globe, more so than in the UK.
Of course, we really miss our families and close friends but Australia has given us a wonderful life experience that we have been very lucky to enjoy. We will move back to the UK eventually but there’s so much more we want to do here for now.
If you get the opportunity then try it. It doesn’t have to be forever.

But in terms of lifestyle - yes it is outdoorsy. I went to the beach before work this morning and a swim at the in laws pool yesterday plus I take my daughter to the park daily. I like 20km from the nearest beach because that's where I can afford to buy but if you want to do certain things then you'll prioritise them.

I am happy here in England but in your place, op, I might be tempted to go abroad to live and work for a while. If you don't want to settle, you can always come back.

I'm not sure the weather is always wonderful in Australia, they have floods, droughts and fires often enough. Aus has never appealed to me, it is so vast and I think I would find it scary. However I am a home bod who feels secure in familiar surroundings. My neighbour's eldest lives out there, has done well and loves it; neighbour visits and they visit here.

If you can tolerate a society more racist, sexist & homophobic than the UK, then go to Australia.

I’ve lived in the UK and in Aus, both for many years and as a child and an adult.

Firstly, it would depend on where in Australia you would like to live - Perth is very isolated but has a mild winter and scorching summer, some areas of NSW, SA and Vic get weather comparable to the UK but not as cold, however wet and windy with summers being much nicer/hotter than UK but not really as hot as Perth gets on a consistent basis. Darwin is lovely but the mosquitoes are crazy AF and along with Cairns and FNQ, very humid. Tasmania is, I think, the closest to the UK. The problem is this: no one is able to give a definitive answer as the states are all large and the weather varies according to where you are. You say you want an outdoor lifestyle, well, in the summertime, not many places (Tasmania however is the outlier) are able to facilitate that, because of either the heat, humidity or UV ratings that day. And no, a hat doesn’t really cut it and SPF50 is absolutely essential, especially if you’re blue eyed, with fair skin, and fair hair or ginger hair. Even Indians need SPF50.

The COL thing: wages are much, much higher than the UK and so is the standard of living. Yes, groceries may cost more depending on what you buy but there are plenty of places to shop that sell locally produced products. Housing costs depend on the state and where you want to live. Car costs vary wildly, depending on whether you want a little Hyundai for $25K (new) or an SUV (very expensive new and secondhand) or a brand such as Tesla, Mercedes, BMW etc.

If you’re under 30, I believe you can go to Aus on a WHV for one year, with an extension for another year.

Alternatively, there are lovely little islands in Oceania if you would prefer an island lifestyle and are eligible for a visa - Micronesia, Polynesia and Melanesia (which sounds like a skin disease but isn’t lol).

Here - Because no insects here will kill me 😂