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Would you rather stay in U.K. or aus

260 replies

whytesnow · 02/01/2023 23:40

And what's your reasons? Just had a crazy idea to move over as I don't have any commitments here and life is getting boring for me here

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Rolandoratto · 03/01/2023 06:53

Keyansier · 03/01/2023 00:19

UK all the way. Can't stand Australia. Horrible weather, horrible accents, horrible animals, horrible lifestyle, horrible everything. Personally not for me, I'm afraid!

Interested to know if you’re basing that on experience or if you’ve never been and just sitting in the UK making statements about how horrible somewhere else is 😆

Blackheath95 · 03/01/2023 06:56

And bingo we have the complete Aussie bashing card thanks to @StartupRepair well done! 🙄🙄. Australia is full of culture 60,000 years worth. Plus theatre, opera, art. But hey we all know that only white culture matters on mn. So clearly the uk is very racist as well.

BoganKiwi · 03/01/2023 07:01

Oh excellent. Another thread bashing Aus by posters who've either never been there, been for a week or whose cousin went once.

I'd say Australia as the UK is an utterly dreary, dire shithole.

cantley · 03/01/2023 07:06

The bashing of Australia on Mumsnet always intrigues me.
People referring to missing " culture" as if when they leave the UK there's no culture anywhere else.
The ones who would miss the quick pop over for a European break - there's such a disconnect between that and the people who are on here who can't afford heating or rent.
I understand people wanting to stay in their own country ( the UK ) but unhinged bashing of another country that many thousand of people emigrate to to for a better quality of life seems bizarre.
Stay there if you want to, don't feel threatened by the OP or other posters who've chosen to move away.

StartupRepair · 03/01/2023 07:07

@Blackheath95 I think you mistook my post for someone else's.

magicthree · 03/01/2023 07:13

UK.
The weather in Aus would be enough reason for me.

Do you have any idea of the size of Australia? The fact that so many on MN seem to think that the weather over an entire continent is the same is bizarre.

I would be inclined to answer Australia, as many of the posts on this thread are showing up a lot of people in the UK as thick.

SD1978 · 03/01/2023 07:15

I live here, I'd move back. Yes the weather is warmer- houses are more expensive and older ones utterly uninsulated. If you're rich, the lifestyle is great- but I live nowhere near a beach, don't have a pool, and struggle (like most)! With my mortgage. So basically I sweat with none of the fun stuff 🤣🤣 (Melbourne here) Sydney the same, Gold Coast better, Perth looks lovely. The main cities- Melbourne and Sydney are a bit shit.

cantley · 03/01/2023 07:19

SD1978 · 03/01/2023 07:15

I live here, I'd move back. Yes the weather is warmer- houses are more expensive and older ones utterly uninsulated. If you're rich, the lifestyle is great- but I live nowhere near a beach, don't have a pool, and struggle (like most)! With my mortgage. So basically I sweat with none of the fun stuff 🤣🤣 (Melbourne here) Sydney the same, Gold Coast better, Perth looks lovely. The main cities- Melbourne and Sydney are a bit shit.

I live in Melbourne and have a fabulous life.
Nowhere near the beach.
But everyone's experience is different!

DifferenceEngines · 03/01/2023 07:20

Cuppasoupmonster · 03/01/2023 04:40

Can I ask, about the spiders, is it safe for dogs? Do you not worry about them rummaging about in the garden and being bitten? Which is the least spidery part of the country? I think there’s a lot of Australian posters here laughing at Brits without realising just how scared dangerous wildlife/weather actually makes us, it literally isn’t something we ever give a second thought in the U.K. - a bit like school shootings in the US, you know they don’t affect the vast majority of people there but it still seems scary!

I have never thought about spiders with regard to my dog - and I live in funnelweb territory ( which is a very small proportion of the country).

Rewis · 03/01/2023 07:22

For a year or two? Australia. "Forever"? Then uk. Never been to Australia but its too far away from my family and friends and I don't think I could cope with coming back home only every few years.

CakeyCakeyCakeCake · 03/01/2023 07:24

We lived in the uk for 12 years and have now lived in AUS for three years. Left with two small DCs.
BEST THING WE EVER DID!
I am a teacher and earn double what I made in the UK. Lifestyle is amazing, cool rainy winter and a scorching summer. We have just got back from a day in the winelands and on to the beach tomorrow. The people are so friendly, most gorgeous beaches that we pop down to as often as we can. Very clean and the GPS are great and easy to get into.
We are on an “average” monthly income. Not wealthy by any means. We pay less than we did in rent in the UK, but have a four bedroom home and a swimming pool. I love the wildlife, have yet to see a snake in the wild but love the kangaroos.
We are a lot happier as a family, my husband isn’t killing himself at work and we have a good lifestyle even though we aren’t considered wealthy here.

I loved the UK, but the weather got to me in the end. My children have a much more well rounded lifestyle and are outdoors a lot. There is just so much more to do here!

Yes, there are challenges of course. We weren’t naive in coming here. We can’t pop to Europe, food is a bit different (I miss M&S chicken pasta so much! 🤣) but people are a lot more down to earth I have found, not worried about clothing or material things, and the weather is amazing!

CakeyCakeyCakeCake · 03/01/2023 07:26

You sound exactly like us!!!!!!! Perth is heaven!

BoganKiwi · 03/01/2023 07:40

cantley · 03/01/2023 07:06

The bashing of Australia on Mumsnet always intrigues me.
People referring to missing " culture" as if when they leave the UK there's no culture anywhere else.
The ones who would miss the quick pop over for a European break - there's such a disconnect between that and the people who are on here who can't afford heating or rent.
I understand people wanting to stay in their own country ( the UK ) but unhinged bashing of another country that many thousand of people emigrate to to for a better quality of life seems bizarre.
Stay there if you want to, don't feel threatened by the OP or other posters who've chosen to move away.

Ha exactly. The wailings of 'culture' by people who went to see Les Mis in 1991 once and whose kids have been trecked bored around the local museum a few times

The longings if 'euro breaks' from folk who probably have a week in Majorca one a year. Missing the fact that Indonesia, Pacific Islands, Fiji. Bali etc are in similar striking distance

The cries of 'weather'! When Sydney and Auckland today are a balmy 25c yet London in Summer reached heights of 42c

The dismay of sharks and spiders... the like if which I never saw in my 5 years in NSW

Yet the UK is all strictly come dancing, the Meghan and Harry show, an NHS that isn't fit for purpose, a dreadful government and 9 months of drab weather and a population who can't afford to heat their homes.

It's that standard envious response where most people here are stuck in their drab lives so have to find spurious ways to do down an obviously better choice as it's one not open to them.

'TV is shit', 'it's racist'. I mean fucking hell!! Scraping the barrel to justify your life choice!

magicthree · 03/01/2023 07:46

@BoganKiwi - hear, hear, well said!

londonrach · 03/01/2023 07:47

UK. Couldn't afford to live in Oz and Never want to live in Oz. Got cousins who lived in Oz since birth and all left now as they can't afford to live in their birth country.

Blackheath95 · 03/01/2023 07:48

StartupRepair · 03/01/2023 07:07

@Blackheath95 I think you mistook my post for someone else's.

Sorry it was meant for @timetogetlost

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 07:57

I’ve lived in both and U.K. I prefer London atm but out of the other two I’d say Aus

But US is so vast with different vibes that you’d have to consider where you’d be

MarshaBradyo · 03/01/2023 07:58

Oh I read US for some reason, ignore that

Me personally - London but depends where you are in U.K. - compare lifestyles that you can achieve with salary too

EasterIsland · 03/01/2023 08:23

Australia isn’t just Britain with sunshine, you know. And the major cities are very expensive. Sydney is London prices for housing, for example.

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Talulah29 · 03/01/2023 08:30

From experience I would say the whole ‘cost of living in Aus is so much more expensive’ is really dependent on the individual & their lifestyle. We’ve found it all to be kind of relevant and like previous posters have said some things are cheaper, some more expensive.

It would be an amazing opportunity to give it a go, even if just for a year or so. You’ve got nothing to lose!

The only thing I would say is that at the moment the increased age limit for the working holiday visa has not been put into place so the current age limit for UK passport holders is still 30. It’s part of a trade agreement so hopefully will be done sooner rather than later but hasn’t just yet. That said I believe once it is then you can apply for the WHV until the day before you turn 36 so hopefully that could still work for you :-)

echt · 03/01/2023 08:33

MulberryMoon · 03/01/2023 05:51

Is that what you really think or you live there and don't want people moving there?

I live there and the more the merrier. I took exception to the OP's scantly detailed and frankly goady OP.

Tekkentime · 03/01/2023 08:37

Do we have to hate on one country to appreciate the other?

The UK isn't dying and Australia isn't full of racists with snakes hiding under your pillow!

Takemyhand123 · 03/01/2023 08:39

If you can @whytesnow just plan to head over there for a year or so, it will do no harm and the UK is always waiting for you if you wanted to come back.

I went at 31 and had the time of my life, the expat community is amazing in Sydney and everybody just up for having lots of fun. Every weekend is beach, or outdoor walks, or fitness classes outside so you end up very healthy.

I don't understand the hatred on here for Aus, in the 4 years I was there I never saw one snake or spider in Sydney.

Melbourne has UK weather, v much like living in Europe I'd say.

I earned far far more over there and I could see a doctor within 20 mins of walking into a surgery, with no appointment.

You'll never ever regret giving it a go 😊I returned with a husband and a baby and would do it all again in a heartbeat.

Oakbeam · 03/01/2023 08:41

My ideal would be 50/50.

I have never found the wildlife to be a problem, apart from the flies.