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Dh sending 15 years old dc with vodka to new year eve party !

122 replies

Glamourgal1989 · 31/12/2022 19:52

I said no but he went against my wish - she asked and I didn’t want to. He is wrong no??? He gave our 15 years old vodka to take

AIBU ???

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NeedToChangeName · 01/01/2023 09:25

Research tells us that, the younger people start drinking, the more likely they are to develop problems with alcohol use in later life

www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/brochures-and-fact-sheets/underage-drinking

I wouldn't be encouraging a 15 year o drink vodka

Pumperthepumper · 01/01/2023 11:03

Shoecleaner · 01/01/2023 01:19

I've just hosted a party for my DD(15) and thirty of her peers. They did drink alcohol and two were sick. I was able to phone their parents and make sure they were looked after. I'm much happier with them doing it under supervision rather than out in a park somewhere as it will happen anyway.

If you were supervising, why did you let them drink so much they were sick? How much alcohol did you have for a group of thirty fifteen year old children?

frogswimming · 01/01/2023 11:03

I would have thought a small drink at home stops excessive binge drinking. But the research doesn't back that up.

Yaslana · 01/01/2023 11:06

How much is important

I gave my 17 year old 3 pub measures of rum to take out last night, with instructions to mix with coke only!

I dont think I would have let him at 15 though

Yaslana · 01/01/2023 11:08

Shoecleaner · 01/01/2023 01:19

I've just hosted a party for my DD(15) and thirty of her peers. They did drink alcohol and two were sick. I was able to phone their parents and make sure they were looked after. I'm much happier with them doing it under supervision rather than out in a park somewhere as it will happen anyway.

Jesus christ! You let 15 years drink til they threw up???

And you don't see anything wrong with that???

ImissSclub7 · 01/01/2023 11:12

They will find a way to get the vodka.

One of my not so proudest moments was sneaking Vodka into a boarding school (we were on a retreat there) and my friends and I each having a couple of shots. I couldn't pick my knife and fork up at dinner and laughed uncontrollably.

Some kids were kicked out for doing the same thing that night and we all thought we would be sent home.

Teens will often find new and creative ways to source alcohol behind their parents'/guardians' backs.

Pumperthepumper · 01/01/2023 11:22

ImissSclub7 · 01/01/2023 11:12

They will find a way to get the vodka.

One of my not so proudest moments was sneaking Vodka into a boarding school (we were on a retreat there) and my friends and I each having a couple of shots. I couldn't pick my knife and fork up at dinner and laughed uncontrollably.

Some kids were kicked out for doing the same thing that night and we all thought we would be sent home.

Teens will often find new and creative ways to source alcohol behind their parents'/guardians' backs.

But if they do, that’s your opportunity as a parent to talk to them about how dangerous that is, about how drinking can impact their health and their looks, and how insidious the drinking culture in Britain is.

Not, ‘ah well, you got shitfaced anyway, here’s more vodka for next time’.

Survey99 · 01/01/2023 11:30

Shoecleaner · 01/01/2023 01:19

I've just hosted a party for my DD(15) and thirty of her peers. They did drink alcohol and two were sick. I was able to phone their parents and make sure they were looked after. I'm much happier with them doing it under supervision rather than out in a park somewhere as it will happen anyway.

Fuck knows what you were doing, but you certainly were not "supervising" 🤦🏻‍♀️

Supervising is about prevention and ensuring they are being responsibile, not allowing them to go all out and just calling the parents when they start vomitting from alcohol intoxication. I would be raging at a parent who said they would supervise and let my child get into that state.

Readabookgroucho · 01/01/2023 11:33

‘Eh, not sure why you think your opinion is more important than his, unless you’re going to drip feed that this isn’t your daughters dad’

fucking hell, this country! 3 years under the drinking age and OP getting shit!
of course YANBU. 15!
Dorsnhenesnt to be the ‘cool’ dad or something?

Shoecleaner · 01/01/2023 11:35

Pumperthepumper · 01/01/2023 11:03

If you were supervising, why did you let them drink so much they were sick? How much alcohol did you have for a group of thirty fifteen year old children?

two bottles of vodka(with mixers) which is roughly a double each. The two poorly ones clearly topped up with more but the rest were totally able to drink in moderation.

Pumperthepumper · 01/01/2023 11:40

Shoecleaner · 01/01/2023 11:35

two bottles of vodka(with mixers) which is roughly a double each. The two poorly ones clearly topped up with more but the rest were totally able to drink in moderation.

For fifteen year olds?! Why?

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 01/01/2023 11:42

A full bottle of vodka for a 15 year old?! Maybe I’m just naïve but that seems a recipe for disaster for a kid who won’t know their own limits.

A six pack of WKD or similar would be agreeable to me.

AbsolutelyNebulous · 01/01/2023 11:58

Does it ever occur to the parents who think a few bottles of blue WKD or Smirnoff ice is fine for young teens because it’s not the hard stuff, that actually you’re often supplying the mixer? Because for every one of you telling yourselves that you’re somehow teaching them to drink responsibly Hmm there’s another didn’t do me any harm lolling hun supplying the bottle of vodka.

Do you honestly believe that just because their mum told them that’s all they’re allowed to have, most teenagers will stick to that? How would you know if they had a fourth bottle from a friend after drinking the three you’ve provided? Or that they didn’t also have a couple of shots of vodka? You’re allowing and providing alcohol so you’re presumably not going to be shocked if they’re a bit tipsy (“I just didn’t have much to eat today mum”) so how can you tell how much they’ve had? You can’t unless you’re right there with them and you’re deluding yourselves to think that teenagers won’t push whatever boundaries you’ve set!

Despite the certainty some of you have that introducing alcohol at a young age will somehow prevent them from abusing alcohol later, there are plenty of studies (actual studies, not the personal opinions and “didn’t do me any harm” BS so many MNers parrot on these threads 🙄) that show this is simply not true.

There aren’t many parents of teens who are naive enough to think they won’t drink just because we say so but the can’t be arsed approach to parenting I’ve seen on so many threads here is honestly shocking to me. Condoning and facilitating something that is known to be harmful to your dc “because they’ll do it anyway” is shit parenting.

HangingOver · 01/01/2023 12:14

I would have thought a small drink at home stops excessive binge drinking. But the research doesn't back that up

My parents did this and I still became a binge pattern alcoholic

CJsGoldfish · 01/01/2023 13:32

@Paq
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JustCleaningtheBBQ · 01/01/2023 16:14

Shoecleaner · 01/01/2023 01:19

I've just hosted a party for my DD(15) and thirty of her peers. They did drink alcohol and two were sick. I was able to phone their parents and make sure they were looked after. I'm much happier with them doing it under supervision rather than out in a park somewhere as it will happen anyway.

I'm surprised you sound so proud of yourself.

You clearly weren't supervising them though, were you? What have the parents of the ones who were sick said to you?

Paq · 01/01/2023 16:33

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CJsGoldfish · 01/01/2023 23:05

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ChiefWiggumsBoy · 02/01/2023 00:14

AbsolutelyNebulous · 01/01/2023 11:58

Does it ever occur to the parents who think a few bottles of blue WKD or Smirnoff ice is fine for young teens because it’s not the hard stuff, that actually you’re often supplying the mixer? Because for every one of you telling yourselves that you’re somehow teaching them to drink responsibly Hmm there’s another didn’t do me any harm lolling hun supplying the bottle of vodka.

Do you honestly believe that just because their mum told them that’s all they’re allowed to have, most teenagers will stick to that? How would you know if they had a fourth bottle from a friend after drinking the three you’ve provided? Or that they didn’t also have a couple of shots of vodka? You’re allowing and providing alcohol so you’re presumably not going to be shocked if they’re a bit tipsy (“I just didn’t have much to eat today mum”) so how can you tell how much they’ve had? You can’t unless you’re right there with them and you’re deluding yourselves to think that teenagers won’t push whatever boundaries you’ve set!

Despite the certainty some of you have that introducing alcohol at a young age will somehow prevent them from abusing alcohol later, there are plenty of studies (actual studies, not the personal opinions and “didn’t do me any harm” BS so many MNers parrot on these threads 🙄) that show this is simply not true.

There aren’t many parents of teens who are naive enough to think they won’t drink just because we say so but the can’t be arsed approach to parenting I’ve seen on so many threads here is honestly shocking to me. Condoning and facilitating something that is known to be harmful to your dc “because they’ll do it anyway” is shit parenting.

How would you manage this@AbsolutelyNebulous? I mean you’re not wrong, all those things are possible. But then you either forbid your child to go anywhere, or you trust them to not drink other people’s drinks or buy their own.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/01/2023 00:19

Vodka wouldn’t be the thing I’d let them take. Maybe a few mixed cans or alcopops. Maybe a few beers or even wine if they like it. But vodka would be about the last thing I’d give them.

My teen is one year younger (14) and I just about think “oh maybe half a glass of wine”. Not vodka.

Streamside · 02/01/2023 00:21

jays · 31/12/2022 20:16

This! Crying, vomiting, regretful sexual decisions, fighting, unable to consent, stomach pumped, police involved…. Not being melodramatic but you do not hand a 15 year old child a bottle of vodka and send them off out the door.

Unfortunately I agree totally with you.I've volunteered with a night-time SOS service and some of the teenage drunks are unforgettable.
I recall a tiny thin child who drank so much alcohol and her body temperature dropped really significantly.We struggled to get her an ambulance and her parents wouldn't answer her phone.

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