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To Think We Should Still Be Wearing Masks

626 replies

TheShellBeach · 28/12/2022 23:28

Especially seeing the news coming out of China, and the lies they seem to be telling about the Covid situation there.

I never stopped wearing a mask when shopping anyway, even though we were told it was no longer necessary.

Yes, I know that most people have now been vaccinated.

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ichundich · 29/12/2022 10:58

You do you.

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 29/12/2022 10:58

Jourdain11 · 29/12/2022 10:52

Nasty symptoms start showing up like shooting ear pain, a tight chest, nausea, loss of smell and taste, fatigue, weird headaches and sky high fevers.

Aren't these just viral symptoms that people get from viruses? Not saying I want to have them. But I remember getting plenty such symptoms with viral illnesses pre-2020!

Indeed they are but my colleagues and friends who keep catching these bugs every other month are saying the symptoms seem to be getting worse and they can’t seem to shift them for a good while without antibiotics etc.

MarshaBradyo · 29/12/2022 11:03

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 29/12/2022 10:35

3 years on:

China ‘reopens’ global travel as their country battles an immense Covid wave with reports of possible new variants.

The media starts playing with the should we shouldn’t we be testing Chinese flights idea which will no doubt slowly ramp up to vilifying ‘Chinas mass spreading’ especially once the Lunar new year starts.

UK hospitals and GP surgeries have essentially started to collapse under the immense pressures of being unstaffed, strikes, Covid, Flu, Strep A, and other mounting health issues.

Lots of people getting repeatedly infected with bad colds flus and other illnesses on a monthly basis after reverting back to precovid behaviours. Nasty symptoms start showing up like shooting ear pain, a tight chest, nausea, loss of smell and taste, fatigue, weird headaches and sky high fevers.

Schools and businesses have made zero improvements to air filtration and ventilation, after the Christmas break numbers of sick people will rise even more.

People have now started going in to work with colds, Covid and other sickness bugs spreading them further as employers lose patience with multiple absences. It’s seemingly acceptable to now cough and sneeze all day long as though nothing is wrong.

Vaccination protection wanes across huge numbers of the population as they opt out of boosters. Deaths and excess deaths slowly start creeping up.

Face mask use now negligible, the majority are now resigned to risk catching ‘mild Covid’ which incidentally can floor you for days and wreck your immune system for a few months.

The economy is in the shitter.

Yet one could argue that we haven’t learned a thing as the cycle looks to be repeating itself once again.

The strain coming from China is on the way out here. It won’t cause a surge.

People seem stuck in cyclical thinking but the situation is different.

Speak4us · 29/12/2022 11:03

No and I wouldn't even if they became mandatory again.

ichundich · 29/12/2022 11:04

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 29/12/2022 10:58

Indeed they are but my colleagues and friends who keep catching these bugs every other month are saying the symptoms seem to be getting worse and they can’t seem to shift them for a good while without antibiotics etc.

Arguably this is because no one has had normal exposure to viruses for 2 years. Humans are herd animals; our immune systems are designed to come in contact with contagious bugs so they can continue to work properly.

thing47 · 29/12/2022 11:08

Jourdain11 · 29/12/2022 08:45

A bit tangential, but I don't get why people think that one way systems in supermarkets help. All it does is make you spend twice as long in the supermarket, so therefore breathing over twice as many people!

Interestingly, and supporting what you and others have said @Jourdain11 , DH – who is only 10 weeks post-transplant – has been told by his consultant that it isn't the wandering round a supermarket which is the problem, it's the queuing for an extended period when you might be in close proximity to someone with an infection. So using the self-scan, for example, is safe.

This is backed up by the academic knowledge of DD2, who lives with us and has a first-class Masters in precisely this field, who says 'extended period' means around 15 minutes in medical/scientific terms. Stopping briefly to pick up shopping items or even to say a quick 'hi' to a friend isn't going to expose you to Covid (or flu) unless said friend coughs or sneezes repeatedly in your face.

TreeForest · 29/12/2022 11:08

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Iguanainanigloo · 29/12/2022 11:09

No way. And this is from someone who hasn't had Covid yet and had to work throughout in a public facing environment. I will not go back to doing 10 hours shifts on my feet wearing a mask. Ever again.

EmmaAgain22 · 29/12/2022 11:10

I wonder if OP will come back.

MichaelFabricantWig · 29/12/2022 11:10

Is China’s wave now not down to the containment strategies it has employed which have plainly not worked together with its shit vaccine?

even if it does surge back we can’t shut down people’s lives again and the NHS is fucked anyway.

Mariposa26 · 29/12/2022 11:11

Good to see so much common sense here. Mask wearing encouraged people to touch their faces more to take them on and off, they were consistently contaminated by being shoved in pockets and handbags - they should only be touched by the strings and discarded after being removed, not reused throughout a day and taken off and on again to eat your (substantial!) meal in a restaurant. The whole thing is quite laughable, as is one way systems in shops - particularly when they kept banging on about 15 minutes exposure being needed to pass it on. So many of these rules made no sense and were a tremendous government over reach.

MichaelFabricantWig · 29/12/2022 11:12

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Why are any of these measures needed though? Rule of 6 lol. Don’t be so ridiculous. Aren’t you happy enough with how the economy has been fucked, that you want yet more? Who will pay for the sainted NHS then?

SirMingeALot · 29/12/2022 11:14

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1/10. Try harder.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 29/12/2022 11:16

some of you seriously need to get therapy for your health-related neurosis. And consider that not being exposed to others forever more will be counterproductive if you want a good immune system.

Bigdamnheroes · 29/12/2022 11:16

I'm exempt from mask wearing so haven't worn one the whole pandemic. I've never had covid. I'm not convinced they do anything at all, especially considering very few people wear them properly.

MichaelFabricantWig · 29/12/2022 11:21

Most of us own masks now.

do we? I don’t.

AngeloMysterioso · 29/12/2022 11:26

Absolutely not. There are some viruses going round at the moment that are absolutely knocking people off their feet and I’m fairly convinced it’s because all our immune systems have gone to crap thanks to over sanitisation, masks and lack of exposure to germs in the last 3 years.

EmmaAgain22 · 29/12/2022 11:30

TreeForest you're probably joking but in case you're not, how do you think early closure for hospitality affects crowds etc?

roselune · 29/12/2022 11:31

There's no evidence that lockdowns/masks/distancing etc. have negatively affected immune systems. There is however growing evidence that a previous covid infection can have an effect on the immune system in general so you'll be affected by other viruses more than you would have been previously.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 29/12/2022 11:38

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😂Good luck with that one.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 29/12/2022 11:42

Bigdamnheroes · 29/12/2022 11:16

I'm exempt from mask wearing so haven't worn one the whole pandemic. I've never had covid. I'm not convinced they do anything at all, especially considering very few people wear them properly.

Interesting, because I'm also exempt and haven't had a cold or covid the last nearly three years. Jabbed, boosted and flu jabbed as well, so that probably helps.

Badbadbunny · 29/12/2022 11:42

Pelo22 · 28/12/2022 23:35

I've been wearing one shopping as I'm immunocompromised
Just tested positive today

It worked then!

I thought it was now generally known/accepted that wearing one doesn't protect the wearer - it protects those around them, so vulnerable people aren't really protecting themselves by wearing them.

My OH is ECV and wears a mask everywhere. He minimises where he goes, doesn't go to crowded places, doesn't go into pubs/restaurants, so basically he only goes in quieter shops, hospital, GP surgery, etc., and he's had covid for the past 2 weeks. More proof that wearing one doesn't protect the wearer.

TreeForest · 29/12/2022 11:45

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sst1234 · 29/12/2022 11:50

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Just when you think it couldn’t get anymore ridiculous, another one pops up. This person, ladies and gentleman, thinks that our lockdown wasn’t harsh enough. Despite the persistent 1000 non-Covid related excess deaths a week, which are forced to live with now because of those very lockdowns.

Honestly, you couldn’t make this up.

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 29/12/2022 11:51

sst1234 · 29/12/2022 11:50

Just when you think it couldn’t get anymore ridiculous, another one pops up. This person, ladies and gentleman, thinks that our lockdown wasn’t harsh enough. Despite the persistent 1000 non-Covid related excess deaths a week, which are forced to live with now because of those very lockdowns.

Honestly, you couldn’t make this up.

I assume they're on a wind up...