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He mimicked me, then told me to F off

127 replies

Chipsandeggagain · 28/12/2022 17:05

Last night Dh was asleep in bed with Dd, 4. He did her bedtime then fell asleep. I was downstairs watching tv and our dog started barking like crazy, she’d heard some firework sounds outside and wouldn’t start barking. This was around midnight and I was trying to get her to stop, Dh was shouting down the stairs that the dog would wake Dd up (more likely to be woken by him shouting in the same room as him!)
She stopped and I came up to bed, he was storming around, pissed off to have been woken up and heading to go downstairs. I asked him where he’d put my charger (he’d borrowed it and mine was out of battery) he got alI saying he didn’t know and probably the wire part was downstairs, really moody with me and speaking to me like crap. I started to be like ‘Okay ffs’ 🤷🏻‍♀️I’m am exasperated and confused way as if no need to be so angry..it’s hard to explain my reaction. He then stormed downstairs mimicking me and shouted ‘F off, (my name)!’

What would be your resection to this?

I sent him a Fb message (couldn’t be bothered to go downstairs as too tired)
asking why the hell he’d spoken to me like that etc. He said he was shocked at being woken by the dog and sorry he spoke in a moody way but I was also asking for his charger in a moody way (I wasn’t)
I told him it was nothing like that at all.
I’ve avoided him today.

What would you do in this situation? Do your dh’s/dp’s speak to you/act like this?

OP posts:
MillenialAvocado · 28/12/2022 21:56

Going against the grain but I can understand why you'd be upset. The dog barking wasn't your fault and was probably quite stressful for you too. You were trying to calm the dog down and he had no right to shout at you.
Asking where he's put your charger is fair enough... he was already awake and what else are you going to do if you can't find it?
You shouldn't have sworn at him, but tbh I would've got shirty if I'd just been shouted at and given a load of attitude over things I had no control over.
Mimicking you is childish and disrespectful.
I'm glad he apologised. I'd have a talk with him and explain you're still upset - giving him the silent treatment won't achieve anything. The relationship might need some work if this sort of thing is regular.

Ineedtosleep79 · 28/12/2022 22:20

thelobsterquadrille · 28/12/2022 20:23

You can be wandering downstairs and half asleep at the same time 🙈

Don't know why you are so hell bent on defending someone's husband who you don't know but the OP clearly stated that he had been shouting and swearing how the actual fuck is he half asleep at that point??

Ineedtosleep79 · 28/12/2022 22:24

Chipsandeggagain · 28/12/2022 21:13

I’m really surprised by some of the answers…thank you all.

Some of these posters are either legit morons or from another planet I'm sure 😂

Chipsandeggagain · 28/12/2022 22:31

@Ineedtosleep79 I have a feeling it’s to deliberately wind me up/start an argument 🤷🏻‍♀️Just quite nasty

OP posts:
RupertBearsScarf · 28/12/2022 22:57

Chipsandeggagain · 28/12/2022 22:31

@Ineedtosleep79 I have a feeling it’s to deliberately wind me up/start an argument 🤷🏻‍♀️Just quite nasty

Or maybe people have different opinions to you?

Ineedtosleep79 · 28/12/2022 23:29

@Chipsandeggagain Yeah, unlucky thread 😔 sometimes they can't wait chant LTB, LTB! x

berrycakeandcustard · 28/12/2022 23:38

Chipsandeggagain · 28/12/2022 22:31

@Ineedtosleep79 I have a feeling it’s to deliberately wind me up/start an argument 🤷🏻‍♀️Just quite nasty

If others have a different outlook to you that doesn't make their posts nasty. Since so many have posted to let you know that your negative behaviour after your DH apologised is unfair should give you reason to think about how you deal with problems.

To dismiss posts as nasty, and therefore not worth paying any heed to, indicates that you don't intend to think about your own behaviour at all in this situation with your DH. To avoid your DD being affected by tension in the house I think you should pay more attention to what posters are telling you and find a new way of dealing with issues.

The reason I posted here is because your OP indicated you were/are giving your DH the silent treatment, that isn't going to solve anything. It is a form of abuse and won't only affect the recipient of the silent treatment (in this case your DH) but will also have a negative effect on others in the household e.g your DD. You can research this yourself if you wish.

If you're still upset, then talk to your DH calmly and then let it go, please don't sulk as it's harmful for everyone in your home.
Relationship counselling might be helpful if you and your DH can't communicate in an open, respectful manner.

Didchristmasreallyhappen · 28/12/2022 23:42

@berrycakeandcustard Out of interest, what are the effects on children growing up in a home where parents went through periods of not speaking to one another etc? I had this

DairyDiary · 28/12/2022 23:51

YABU.

It’s really stressful being woken up by a barking dog (we’re designed to be on high alert and pumped with adrenaline when that happens) and you weren’t remotely apologetic about that. Then you started making unnecessary demands of him when he was already shaken and stressed - which also shows you simply don’t give a shit about him or what he was saying to you. You didn’t need your phone charger so urgently that you couldn’t give him three seconds of your attention and communicate appropriately - you clearly had enough charge to message him. And then you swore at him as if he were the one in the wrong (for literally doing absolutely nothing other than putting your joint DD to bed and being woken up) - and then think he’s in the wrong for swearing back!

Baffling. You’ve created this entire situation, you’ve continued it and you’re still continuing it. Apologise, drop it and move on. You’re making a mountain out of a molehill.

Ineedtosleep79 · 28/12/2022 23:58

DairyDiary · 28/12/2022 23:51

YABU.

It’s really stressful being woken up by a barking dog (we’re designed to be on high alert and pumped with adrenaline when that happens) and you weren’t remotely apologetic about that. Then you started making unnecessary demands of him when he was already shaken and stressed - which also shows you simply don’t give a shit about him or what he was saying to you. You didn’t need your phone charger so urgently that you couldn’t give him three seconds of your attention and communicate appropriately - you clearly had enough charge to message him. And then you swore at him as if he were the one in the wrong (for literally doing absolutely nothing other than putting your joint DD to bed and being woken up) - and then think he’s in the wrong for swearing back!

Baffling. You’ve created this entire situation, you’ve continued it and you’re still continuing it. Apologise, drop it and move on. You’re making a mountain out of a molehill.

Why on EARTH would the OP apologize for the barking dog?? It wasn't her fault.

DairyDiary · 29/12/2022 00:08

Ineedtosleep79 · 28/12/2022 23:58

Why on EARTH would the OP apologize for the barking dog?? It wasn't her fault.

She was in charge of the dog and should’ve been able to stop it barking like any decent owner. One bark didn’t wake him, OP said she couldn’t stop it barking. Dogs bark because they’re dogs. Dog bark and don’t stop because their owner lets them. If she couldn’t stop it barking then she should’ve apologised out of courtesy and decency for her obvious failure. It wasn’t intentional or malicious but if (for example) a parent works nights and so sleeps during the day, the other parent would be expected to prevent children shouting and waking the other parent up - and apologise when they fail to prevent or stop that. If someone accidentally slams a door or makes any other loud noise that wakes someone, even without intention or malice, they apologise. It’s part of treating someone with basic levels of respect - which OP failed to do from start to finish.

concernedalot · 29/12/2022 01:35

Haven't RTFT but after page one you'll get loads of apologizers on here that think a man mocking you and speaking to you like shit is normal. You mentioned the nastiness. I'm not sure why so many people on mumsnet defend this sort of behaviour, maybe it's because they've experienced it themselves and are minimizing it, because if they faced up to it they would be paying a lot of money for a nasty divorce. Go with your gut OP, not with some of the people on here. FGS some people need to get a grip and think what they would advise their daughters to do in this situation. Selfish toxic world we live in isn't it!

Finalcountdown2022 · 29/12/2022 01:52

To me, there is a clear distinction between swearing out loud in exasperation and swearing at someone, the latter is an act of aggression towards the other person.
op, reflect on whether or not this disrespect is part of a bigger picture otherwise treat it as an unpleasant blip and move on.

LemonTreeSkies · 29/12/2022 01:53

Didchristmasreallyhappen · 28/12/2022 23:42

@berrycakeandcustard Out of interest, what are the effects on children growing up in a home where parents went through periods of not speaking to one another etc? I had this

Fucking horrible. I’m in my 50s and still remember the horrible atmosphere.

Notatallanamechange · 29/12/2022 01:56

By Mumsnet definition your silent treatment to him is a form of abuse. Whether or not I agree with that for a lot of circumstances, there’s something in it here. An individual woken from sleep suddenly, then receiving demands for a Damn phone charger when possibly still coming to. Then a message of demands of why he behaved why he did when he went elsewhere to sleep (after swearing at you when swore first), then finalised and apology from him and you giving him the silent treatment.

Quite uneasy reading when it’s laid out simply.

Boulshired · 29/12/2022 09:40

Silent treatment, in this case avoiding is not defined by mumsnet as abuse but a well written and researched form of emotional abuse that damages both parties if it becomes a regular occurrence. There’s a difference in asking for space to calm down and actively ignoring someone. The op made it clear (on here) that his apology wasn’t good enough and rather than tell him she has choose to avoid him. The avoidance is anger/upset driven. This is damaging to both parties and is best to address before the silent treatment becomes a norm for any disagreement. If a person behaviour is that significant or communicating escalates anger that the other person feels no choice but to withdraw then the relationship is probably not worth saving.

DairyDiary · 29/12/2022 10:06

concernedalot · 29/12/2022 01:35

Haven't RTFT but after page one you'll get loads of apologizers on here that think a man mocking you and speaking to you like shit is normal. You mentioned the nastiness. I'm not sure why so many people on mumsnet defend this sort of behaviour, maybe it's because they've experienced it themselves and are minimizing it, because if they faced up to it they would be paying a lot of money for a nasty divorce. Go with your gut OP, not with some of the people on here. FGS some people need to get a grip and think what they would advise their daughters to do in this situation. Selfish toxic world we live in isn't it!

I’d probably advise my DD not to treat her DH like shit and expect him not to respond in kind. Respect works both ways. How would you feel if your DS were the DH here? Being woken up, shouted at, sworn at and then harassed for an apology (which he gave) only to be given the silent treatment so he doesn’t dare treat OP as badly as she treats him again. Make or female, OP caused this conflict and she continued it - she’s responsible for 99% of it.

jannier · 29/12/2022 13:48

What I don't get....he's using a charger to charge the phone....it must be plugged in how many sockets do you have in order to need help finding the one he used? You start in the room he was in and then your bedroom don't you?

jannier · 29/12/2022 13:50

Boulshired · 29/12/2022 09:40

Silent treatment, in this case avoiding is not defined by mumsnet as abuse but a well written and researched form of emotional abuse that damages both parties if it becomes a regular occurrence. There’s a difference in asking for space to calm down and actively ignoring someone. The op made it clear (on here) that his apology wasn’t good enough and rather than tell him she has choose to avoid him. The avoidance is anger/upset driven. This is damaging to both parties and is best to address before the silent treatment becomes a norm for any disagreement. If a person behaviour is that significant or communicating escalates anger that the other person feels no choice but to withdraw then the relationship is probably not worth saving.

Maybe she's hoping for flowers and a gift not sure how else he apologizes he's said sorry she couldn't be bothered to go downstairs it's nuts

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 29/12/2022 14:10

Chipsandeggagain · 28/12/2022 22:31

@Ineedtosleep79 I have a feeling it’s to deliberately wind me up/start an argument 🤷🏻‍♀️Just quite nasty

I don't remember seeing anything nasty, to be honest. Just many (most?) people suggesting that you're not entirely the victim you want to feel yourself to be. Have you kissed and made up yet?

berrycakeandcustard · 29/12/2022 15:26

I went to bed last night after my last post but I was thinking about this thread as I got ready for bed and I realised there was one thing I didn't clarify so I want to do that now:

Not every incident of giving someone the silent treatment is abusive, just wanted to be clear on that in case others reading my previous posts think that's the case.
It's definitely not a great way of dealing with things but not necessarily abusive in every instance.

Rather, giving someone the silent treatment is emotionally abusive if it's a regular way of dealing with problems, if it's done to punish someone (e.g I'm unhappy with you so I refuse to talk to you), if it's done to manipulate someone to give in and do what you want or say what you want to hear and it can certainly be abusive if it's prolonged - giving someone the silent treatment or clearly avoiding them for hours, days, even weeks sometimes instead of talking through the problem. It can be a way of attempting to control another.

As @Boulshired says above, this type of abuse has been documented and researched which is why I suggested last night that the OP could do further research herself, in case she didn't want to take my word for it.

It can be very damaging to be on the receiving end of this sort of behaviour.
We're all aware of the damaging effects of being in a physically abusive relationship or a verbally abusive relationship but many tend to minimise the damaging effects of avoidance/silent treatment and don't even recognise that it can be a form of abuse.

Just like other types of abuse, it can lower self esteem, cause anxiety and stress, make a person doubt themselves, make them fearful of voicing their thoughts, needs, opinions etc in case they're punished by getting the silent treatment inflicted on them.
It can cause them to feel confused, frustrated, resentful, angry etc.
It can make someone feel belittled and uncared about.
It's absolutely horrible to live in the same house as the person giving you the silent treatment, you find yourself walking on eggshells and can't relax.

As for the effects on children living in such a household - it can have some of the same damaging effects as having to live with more well known types of abuse.

@Didchristmasreallyhappen Not every child is going to be affected in the exact same way, even children from the same household might be "damaged" in different ways.
It can cause children to be anxious, angry, shut down, display timidity, aggression, they might not be able to fully relax or concentrate, might act the clown etc etc. They're aware of the tension in the house and are walking on eggshells at all times. Any parent who says their child isn't affected by silent treatment behaviour is deluding themselves.
Children can't fully relax/feel safe as parents can't be fully trusted as the adults are unpredictable, you never know when the moody, sulky behaviour will appear and how long it'll last.
Children who grow up in an environment where this type of behaviour is a regular occurrence can have some of the same sort of issues in adulthood as those who grew up in households where other types of abuse occurred.

I can't write everything about it here, the research is out there if anyone wants to learn more.
I also speak from experience - I grew up in a home where my mother regularly gave my father the silent treatment, it sometimes lasted for days, sometimes for a week or more.

Even though it was my father that my mother was angry at everyone in the house suffered. You could cut the tension in the air with a knife and we all noticed it. My mother would deny this, she did love us and saw herself as a good mother - she read books, played games, helped with homework, we had all we needed in terms of food, clothes, activities etc.
Unfortunately she was/is in complete denial about how her behaviour towards my father affected us kids.
Loving your child isn't always enough if parents don't want to face up to the fact that their behaviours and moods are noticed by their children and that it's having a negative impact on them.

Sorry, this has turned into a bit of an essay.

@Chipsandeggagain , there's certain things you've said that remind me of my mother which is what prompted me to post on this thread. She always believed that everything was 100% my father's fault, she flat out refused to see that her own behaviour contributed to the problems in their marriage.
He was far from a perfect husband but even when he did try nothing he ever did was good enough. She was looking for ways to find fault with him, saw herself as the "good" adult who did everything for the family and felt she wasn't appreciated, a martyr. She refused to see that she had to change her behaviour, refused to see that she had to take some responsibility for her own happiness. As far as she was concerned she was always the victim.

Obviously I don't know exactly what's going on in your home but if you recognise any of this then please speak to a counsellor/therapist so that you can be happy and so your dd doesn't have to grow up in an unhappy home.

As I said last night I think a relationship counsellor might be helpful for your marriage but I think you and Dh might benefit from individual counselling too. If you have difficulty communicating effectively with your DH then some therapy sessions will help you discover why and give you new coping tools.

If you do recognise any of this and you regularly deal with problems by giving the silent treatment/avoiding then don't beat yourself up about it. The important thing is to recognise it and the long term negative impact it can have so you can stop this behaviour asap and find new, healthier ways of dealing with issues. Take care.

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 29/12/2022 15:43

The "I'd leave if my husband told me to fuck off" posters crack me up 🤣

Is it a thing to pretend that you're a delicate little flower of a woman who should never hear the word fuck? Hilarious.

FloydPepper · 29/12/2022 15:48

Op are you talking to him yet?

DairyDiary · 29/12/2022 15:50

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 29/12/2022 15:43

The "I'd leave if my husband told me to fuck off" posters crack me up 🤣

Is it a thing to pretend that you're a delicate little flower of a woman who should never hear the word fuck? Hilarious.

I’d assume these posters wouldn’t have started it tbh

Ineedtosleep79 · 29/12/2022 15:53

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 29/12/2022 15:43

The "I'd leave if my husband told me to fuck off" posters crack me up 🤣

Is it a thing to pretend that you're a delicate little flower of a woman who should never hear the word fuck? Hilarious.

😂 And I feel sorry for you if you don't care if your husband tells you to fuck off after u ask him for the phone charger. Jesus! Standards are low as fuck on this thread 🤣