I don't like Welsh people

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Said to me, a Welsh person born in Wales, married to a Welsh man, with two welsh children.

By my own father?!

He and my mum are looking at moving houses, I was asking about where and he mentioned they were a looking more at a specific county further away from me. I asked if they'd consider my county as we see them quite a bit. My dad said that my county is too Welsh, and the main draw of the other county is that it's much more English and he fits in better with English people, Welsh people are a bit odd and he doesn't like them and wants to be surrounded by English people.

Told him to move to fucking England then! My mum said I overreacted but it was just quite a grim thing to say to be honest, made me look at him a bit different. They were visiting for Christmas Day and the whole atmosphere turned a bit after that and they left earlier than planned. AIBU to be pissed off?!

As per my previous post - I’m not referring to the Senedd.

Your posts are giving “nobody speaks Welsh, it’s a dead language” vibes whilst ignoring it is growing year on year. Similarly, the desire for independence is growing year on year.

We can play post table tennis indefinitely if you wish, but I think it interesting you’re happy to hone in on my posts but not the poster saying the Welsh are useless and can all fuck off.

We’re in the same sort of place in terms of industry as England, then.

I'm just wondering why your parents moved to Wales, when they don't like the people or the language. Seems to have been a strange decision.

I'm not Welsh, but have visited various parts on holiday. Was planning on trying to learn some of the language beyond, "Hello", "How are you?" and "Thankyou" before our next visit (We have extended family in Ceredigion).

I stand by that, 82% of the upcoming Welsh budget comes from the rest of the U.K. How’re you planning to support yourselves?

Wales - a rare case of England having to pay reparations for historic poor behaviour in real time.

Imagine if England had to similarly support all the other nations it had pillaged and/or oppressed. That would be expensive indeed.

It isn’t personally my job to plan for Welsh independence but charging the English regions who are supplied by Welsh water would be an obvious one.

The British Empire reached it greatest territorial extent under the administration of David Lloyd-George, a Welshman, Welsh Coal contributed to powering the empire and the Welsh themselves were very willing settlers. On that basis, I take it, you would support a newly independent Wales joining England in paying those reparations?

As for Welsh water, it rains throughout the British Isles. I’m sure we’ll cope ;)

Yep. Which is why Asia is where investors are going they still make widgets there. The new pole star electric car created by Volvo a Swedish company is being made in China

Well we can't it's simple accountancy.

Don't take it personally. Perhaps he just knows the cultural habits that he has grown to feel most comfortable with and he is old enough to be able to afford where he wants to spend the most of his time remaining. Maybe he is getting hard of hearing or finding some other things about life more difficult and he want the easiest route. The first time I visited Italy I just fell in love with the way of life. I wish I could live there and my own country is no where near as good any more.

The Welsh language is not growing year on year. The 2011 and 2021 census proved that . It was a shock because it's doing well here but not overall which is being addressed .

The Welsh government have concentrated their money this winter on fuel payments to protect us. £90 million they've handed out.

Welsh coal taken as a forcibly shared resource. It is laughable you present it as an equal union.

But as you mention it, I’m of the opinion that Wales should apologise now for the part it played in the slave trade. There’s no need to wait for independence.

If water supply was not a concern, irrespective of rainfall throughout the UK, regions of England would not need to have had a community destroyer to create a reservoir to supply the inhabitants.

Did Welsh coal miners get paid for their labours?

But, surely an apology isn’t good enough, don’t you agree that Wales should put its hand in its pocket? Or does it not count when you do it?

I how bizzare! No one "comes from" where they are born, it's where you are raised and brought up that you are from surely

“When you do it”

Do what? Spawn a colonial empire, oppress and exploit every nation that isn’t their own?

As for “bUt ThEy gOt pAiD” - paid well? Did they have decent living conditions and sanitation? Were the working conditions safe? No.

The Aberfan disaster speaks loudly of the conditions and that was mid 20th century.

This is the standard argument the Scott Nats make. Again, conveniently ignoring how much their nation benefited from the ‘evil’ British Empire. Was David Lloyd-George not Welsh?

Were Welsh pits inherently more dangerous than those in England? Their miners on lower pay?

Wrong.

England has presumed consent and an opt out policy.

As for Welsh water, it rains throughout the British Isles. I’m sure we’ll cope ;)

I had to laugh at this! You're showing breathtaking ignorance and naivety there 😂

If all Welsh water pumped from Wales to England was stopped dead right now, it would throw several huge regions of England into immediate crisis. Not mild inconvenience 😂 actual crisis - as in, third world, no water in the taps, aid needed for hundreds of thousands of people - type crisis.

Theres no way at present for England to replace the water it obtains from Wales. They have too many people for the land mass. Personally I've always thought Wales could manage independently by charging for its water alone - it's the most essential resource of them all, supply and demand and all that. It would be risky long term to put all their eggs in one basket though I suppose.

Of the 12 statistical areas of the UK 9 have a deficit I.e more spent on public services than raised in revenue. The exceptions are London, the South East and East of England. Surprise fucking surprise.

In many areas, including and especially Wales public services cost more to administer per capita for geographical and demographical reasons.

@SemperIdem
That’s fair. I had the impression that due to the linguistic oppression, Welsh didn’t necessarily have a Welsh word for more modern terms, or some words had been appropriated for more modern usage eg archfarchnad for supermarket when it would have meant cathedral.

What are you talking about? archfarchnad would not have meant cathedral.
Cathedral is, and was, eglwys gadeiriol or sometimes cadeirlan. archfarchnad is not any more made up than supermarket, supermarché, supermercato, supermercado, Supermarkt, etc
I even included a link to a dictionary.

Believe it or not we have words for things like broadband, crowdfunding, digital etc.

We do have a problem with services due to low density. Hence water, gas, electricity, refuse collection is labour intensive and unprofitable. Our electricity, phones, are overhead, weather, trees bring them down. Gas not available. Water leakage hard to find. Our own mini reservoir tank in the village. Refuse collection some lanes/tracks too narrow for the normal size vehicles. So you bring them down the lane to the nearest accessible point. We now have four weekly refuse collections. Recycling weekly.

We're expensive to keep in many areas so are subsidised by others in the county. Which is why our rates have gone up 5% year on year

Don't rise to it. They're not very well read sadly

I don’t believe I did use the words “made up”.

And as I said, I’m sure I’ll be more in the know linguistically following the Welsh lessons I’m starting in the new year 😊

@justasking111 , . I fail to understand why they don't check before they post. It wouldn't take a lot to figure that archfarchnad is from the word marchnad (market). Where the appropriated word for cathedral idea come from???

@CoffeeBoy , would you say I’m Welsh as my parents are Welsh? But I was born in England and lived in England until I was 19yo, so I’d say I’m English. I think most Welsh people would also say I was English. Same but opposite for the OP.
You are welsh by blood, english by birthplace.
Welsh-speakers would think of you as 'english' on the grounds of you not being a Welsh speaker, or welsh on the grounds of you speaking Welsh.

Sais/Saesnes can mean Englishman/woman, or someone who doesn't speak Welsh.
Saes means someone who speaks Wenglish, and doesn't realise that it isn't the singular of Saeson.

Cadeirlan neu eglwys gadeiriol I always say for "cathedral"

Archfarchnad comes from marchnad which means market.

If in full Welsh speaking mode I will use teledu instead of TV or microdon instead of microwave, because my brain has switched languages so the language is used in its entirety.

Exactly you're thinking in Welsh so the language flows