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Neighbour’s XL Bully

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Dente · 26/12/2022 21:33

My neighbour has one of these dogs, which to be fair I always on a lead, but I’m so bloody scared of it when I am out walking my dog. He says it’s friendly and our dogs have sniffed each other and he while on leads, but I just feel so uneasy. I feel that if he slipped and that dog got loose it would be such a danger to everyone around. The area I live in is mainly families with young children and I just can’t understand why someone would get this kind of dog?

I understand all dogs can be aggressive, but all dogs don’t have this power and muscle that means they can easily kill!

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leithreas · 27/12/2022 01:38

Filamumof9 · 27/12/2022 01:20

A breed does not say everything about the character of the dog. We own 9 Fila brasileiro's currently and choose the ones with less ojeriza in order to have more family oriented dogs instead of sole guard dogs. These dogs are bigger than the bully XL but they do not latch onto dogs or persons in a fight. I found our chowchow but also our rotty/pitty mix more hard work than these dogs. Having said that, I can understand why they can install fear in someone. While the character of the dog may vary in a breed, characteristics such as bite force/ latching on occurs with most of the dogs within the breed.

However, the anxiety of what might happen might as well trigger a dog, if you understand what I am trying to say.

I just googled these as I had never heard of them before, probably because they are banned in many countries. Having read up on them I cannot imagine what would possess you to have 7 potentially very dangerous dogs. Absolute lunacy to own a pack of them.

Xer · 27/12/2022 01:40

If a kid gets bitten, it's the child's fault for being friendly/trusting/inquisitive...

That would be the parents fault for not supervising the child.
Our job as parents is to teach our children what is safe and how to do things correctly.... that should include approaching animals that aren't our own and could be nervous or dangerous.

Xer · 27/12/2022 01:44

Cane corso puppies are becoming popular where I live. Those are the new status symbol here. I am starting to worry about the potential impact of those here because people breed them like mad then realise how big they get and can't handle them and local shelters end up flooded with them.

LaBellina · 27/12/2022 01:47

Xer · 27/12/2022 01:20

Worst dog I have seen in terms of fighting with other dogs is an Aikita. They don't always look like "big dogs" or "pure muscle beasts" but could easily rip your throat out.

They were used for bear hunting in the past, in Northern Japan. They look very cute but they’re extremely strong and very protective of their families.

Mybumlooksbig · 27/12/2022 02:13

Yanbu. These dogs terrify me

Flaunch · 27/12/2022 02:23

But xl bullies to make me nervous.
Mostly because of the owners you tend to find on the other end of the lead.

This. Choice dog of scrotes, chavs, violent arseholes and criminals.

Canthave2manycats · 27/12/2022 02:24

Hazless · 26/12/2022 23:25

People that own these dogs are always the same. When you read about fatal dog stories the stories all merge into one as they are so similar.

there is no need to own these quite honestly ugly and aggressive dogs. Bull breeds are bloody ugly. They always say the phrase “my staffie is a softie, he wouldn’t hurt a fly” for example and “they are nanny dogs…. So good with kids” 🙄

Couldn't agree more!

frankiegoestohollywood · 27/12/2022 02:27

It’s one thing to not like a breed, it’s another entirely to suggest giving it a slow and very painful death.

disgusting human beings. I’d rather take my chances with the dog than ever meeting the two posters who suggested poisoning it.

🤮

Fleabea · 27/12/2022 03:04

Not sure what you are hoping to achieve from the post. Ultimately this dog is always on the lead, kept in a secure garden and hasn't shown any aggressive behaviour.

There are breeds of dogs that I am wary of and if I see them on a dog walk, I will call my dog back and put it on the lead until we pass as a precaution.

Tanfastic · 27/12/2022 03:50

Zanatdy · 26/12/2022 22:13

I’m a massive dog lover but am very wary of those dogs.

Yes me too, i was in the ( very tiny) vet waiting room with one earlier this year and owner looked like he was struggling with it due to its size and weight I assume. I sat there on pins. They are magnificent massive beasts close up and quite scary looking. I'm not sure what the attraction is but they make me nervous.

HaveYouSeenNancy · 27/12/2022 05:21

ThePoshUns · 26/12/2022 23:27

This XL bully was called Beast according to the article. It killed an innocent child. This thread shows you can't argue with stupid. So I'll just leave it there.

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Absolutely heartbreaking. The tributes from Jack's parents that included nightmares of how Jack must have suffered and how terrified he must've been. All because some 19 year old lad wanted a status symbol.

ywnbarwkitty · 27/12/2022 05:47

I wouldn't trust them, my whippet was shredded on sight by three of them, they only let her go when she stopped moving. All entire males and she was in heat, theyre freaks of nature.

movingoranges · 27/12/2022 05:47

What do you want from this post OP? What exactly are you going to do about it? It's not like you're going to go up to the neighbour and tell them they have to get rid of their dog who currently has done nothing to yours? What if someone else said all these things about your dog who also has done nothing?

LaLuz7 · 27/12/2022 06:33

Shallana · 27/12/2022 00:01

You are being ridiculous. XL Bully's are not naturally aggressive dogs, they are friendly and gentle. If it's never shown any signs of aggression, then why would it be of danger to anybody if it got loose? Sounds as though you've read too much tabloid fodder.

Friendly and gentle

ahahahahahahahahaha
I'll laugh myself out...

Delusions. Delusions everywhere.

LaLuz7 · 27/12/2022 06:39

CarrotCake84 · 27/12/2022 00:59

I can understand why people are scared of larger breed dogs, I was bitten by a collie as a child, so even now I have some anxiety over dogs in general.
Looking at statistics though, far more people are killed by humans than dogs, so humans as a species are a bigger threat.

Strawman argument much? You're not allowed to be apprehensive of one thing a long as there is something more objectively dangerous out there? Is it stupid to fear Covid as long as there is Ebola in the world?

Such a stupid stupid comparison. You can't ban humans. You can however ban dangerous dog breeds. As you should.

harrassedmumto3 · 27/12/2022 06:40

It has done absolutely nothing to you Confused

hattie43 · 27/12/2022 07:00

I love dogs and have a large powerful breed myself but these dogs are at another level altogether.
They should be banned . The only people I see who have these dogs are imo failing inadequate adults who need some kind of status dog to make up for their own short comings . They also appear to be kept on sink estates in inappropriate environments. I'd be very nervous keeping my dogs next door to one of these aswell .

Filamumof9 · 27/12/2022 07:05

leithreas · 27/12/2022 01:38

I just googled these as I had never heard of them before, probably because they are banned in many countries. Having read up on them I cannot imagine what would possess you to have 7 potentially very dangerous dogs. Absolute lunacy to own a pack of them.

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Obviously I do not live in Europe or the UK, so this pack is there for safety reasons as I live quite isolated. It is a very common breed where I live and there has been no accidents with them here. We have handled and handraised most of our dogs as from the moment they were born, and they have been the most gentle dogs that I know. The others come from an official breeder here. I do know that within the breed there are also more aggressive examples, but we select our dogs very carefully on character and train them extensively.There is never a fight within my pack nor do they show any agression to visitors. According to our vet, these are the most gentle big dogs that he knows. But I must say, it is a lot of work to ensure that a dog is properly specialized and trained.

In the UK or Europe I would not own these dogs as I would not been able to provide them with their needs, which would make them unhappy. Every unhappy dog can be dangerous no matter their size. I have had terrible experiences with much smaller dogs.

3ormoredogs · 27/12/2022 07:18

@Onceuponawhileago sadly your experience mirrors mine. Lovely lovely bull breed until it’s not. I’ve never seen anything so relentless as a SBT in attack mode. Sadly, part of my job is assisting the police in euthanising dangerous dogs (not of type- those that have attacked) and it happens more than you would think. I would say 90% are a bull breed.

Saying that, although I don’t care for bull breeds of any kind I do try and live and let live as long as they are on lead and under control (and far away from my kids and dogs)

Tekkentime · 27/12/2022 07:34

Wolfiefan · 26/12/2022 21:45

It’s on a lead.
It has greeted your dog and shown no aggression.
You can easily avoid them if you wish to.
YABU.

Have you ever seen an owner try to stop a muscular dog from running when it wants to?

It's both hilarious and terrifying. A lead is not the perfect solution sadly. If a dog of that calibre wants to attack, it will, lead or no lead.

LakieLady · 27/12/2022 07:49

He now has a cocker spaniel than since having a fence fitted on the back has bitten 2 of my 3 children while walking into OUR home!

That's worrying. There is a thing called "rage syndrome" that was prevalent in cocker spaniels. I thought that it had been much reduced by responsible breeding, but if I had a cocker that had bitten 2 children, I'd be getting it checked out, and I would certainly let the breeder know that this had happened so that they could stop breeding from those lines, and let other owners of dogs from those lines know.

My later mother worked with dogs for several years (as a groomer and at a quarantine kennel). She used to say that she'd been bitten 6 times, and every one was an English cocker.

Should add, that I've only heard of this in the English cocker, not the American cocker.

hattie43 · 27/12/2022 07:52

LakieLady · 27/12/2022 07:49

He now has a cocker spaniel than since having a fence fitted on the back has bitten 2 of my 3 children while walking into OUR home!

That's worrying. There is a thing called "rage syndrome" that was prevalent in cocker spaniels. I thought that it had been much reduced by responsible breeding, but if I had a cocker that had bitten 2 children, I'd be getting it checked out, and I would certainly let the breeder know that this had happened so that they could stop breeding from those lines, and let other owners of dogs from those lines know.

My later mother worked with dogs for several years (as a groomer and at a quarantine kennel). She used to say that she'd been bitten 6 times, and every one was an English cocker.

Should add, that I've only heard of this in the English cocker, not the American cocker.

My friends brother experienced this with his cocker . She was red in colour and he heard it was more prevalent in the red colouring . He rehomed the dog to an adult only family with the full knowledge of what they were taking on .

Wolfiefan · 27/12/2022 08:06

@Tekkentime erm yes. I walk two wolfhounds by myself every single day.
Some people on here seem to think that dogs are like a gun just waiting to go off. The idea that a dog that is walking calmly on a lead will suddenly switch to “attack mode” and drag its owner about until it’s done killing is frankly ludicrous.

PortiasBiscuit · 27/12/2022 08:07

Aren’t XL bullies bred to be less aggressive? I thought that was the whole point of them?

Tekkentime · 27/12/2022 08:12

Wolfiefan · 27/12/2022 08:06

@Tekkentime erm yes. I walk two wolfhounds by myself every single day.
Some people on here seem to think that dogs are like a gun just waiting to go off. The idea that a dog that is walking calmly on a lead will suddenly switch to “attack mode” and drag its owner about until it’s done killing is frankly ludicrous.

But i've literally seen it happen in real life so it's not ludicrous at all...