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Neighbour’s XL Bully

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Dente · 26/12/2022 21:33

My neighbour has one of these dogs, which to be fair I always on a lead, but I’m so bloody scared of it when I am out walking my dog. He says it’s friendly and our dogs have sniffed each other and he while on leads, but I just feel so uneasy. I feel that if he slipped and that dog got loose it would be such a danger to everyone around. The area I live in is mainly families with young children and I just can’t understand why someone would get this kind of dog?

I understand all dogs can be aggressive, but all dogs don’t have this power and muscle that means they can easily kill!

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MintJulia · 26/12/2022 23:55

LaLuz7 · 26/12/2022 21:36

YANBU. That breed is an abomination. And dangerous. And do very ugly. Yuck.

This. There is only one reason to choose a dog like that, or a pit bull, and that is to fight or intimidate.

I wouldn't go anywhere near it or its owner.

Goawayangryman · 26/12/2022 23:56

We had a really unpleasant experience with XL bullies in the woods yesterday..horrible, out of control, powerful dogs that wouldn't recall and that were 500m away from owners.

Two of them were fighting very aggressively over a branch, snarling and growling. The other was marginally better controlled but not much. The two dogs had their bollocks proudly swinging away whilst they growled and snapped. The bitch had recently had puppies. What a surprise. And the owners were fucking clueless, standing their vaping and wanging on whilst the dogs frightened everyone within the vicinity. Our own dog was just like, wtf is going on, and sat down and refused to move.

Lucidas · 27/12/2022 00:00

The Rotherham case of the XL bully who killed its owner and as good as mauled the hand of her partner is scary. Raised it since it was a puppy and no other reports of violence. Why would anyone take the risk of owning one?

Shallana · 27/12/2022 00:01

You are being ridiculous. XL Bully's are not naturally aggressive dogs, they are friendly and gentle. If it's never shown any signs of aggression, then why would it be of danger to anybody if it got loose? Sounds as though you've read too much tabloid fodder.

WetBandits · 27/12/2022 00:06

Already reported two posters who have suggested poisoning the dog who hasn’t even done anything fucking wrong!

How disgusting can you get

XenoBitch · 27/12/2022 00:07

WetBandits · 27/12/2022 00:06

Already reported two posters who have suggested poisoning the dog who hasn’t even done anything fucking wrong!

How disgusting can you get

There are some weird dog haters on MN.

TommyShelby · 27/12/2022 00:16

I’ll be up front. XL bullies are not my cup of tea at all. However, I find the argument of ‘I can’t overpower if it got out of control’ is tenuous at best OP. You might be able to overpower your spaniel (excellent choice btw, I have two as well) if it got out of control - but a child wouldn’t. Or my elderly neighbour with mobility issues.

The most aggressive dog I have ever met was a golden retriever who was absolutely beautiful. And an arsehole on four legs. She would have taken your face off if given half a chance. I was able to over power her the one time I needed to and it was bloody difficult. But does that mean anything bigger than a golden retriever shouldn’t be allowed out bevause I know that’s my limit? That’s ridiculous.

mynamesnotMa · 27/12/2022 00:26

The XL American Bully is a gentle giant. Since the initial breeders wanted family companions, gentleness is paramount! It is a must-have feature for all American Bullies.

Despite its ferocious looks, the American Bully XL is a kind, friendly, and affectionate dog. According to the United Kennel Club, aggression towards humans is uncharacteristic and undesirable.

Kids dogs pets it's how you treat them...why not speak to the owner... I have a fear of Alsations.

Weepachu · 27/12/2022 00:30

www.warriorsforjustice.com/dog-biting-statistics-by-breed/

Pit bulls statistically attack most often, and the XL Bully is largely pit bull genes.

Lucidas · 27/12/2022 00:32

The American Bully is a pitbull designed to skirt BSL. I think the sooner regular people acknowledge and internalize that pitbulls sub-breeds are now being created for the purpose of flouting breed restrictions the better.

Onceuponawhileago · 27/12/2022 00:33

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TrumpsParsnip · 27/12/2022 00:39

Fellow Caerphilly resident here. After what's happened I just can't stand this breed. I know of several in the area and I just don't understand how anyone could want one as a pet.

TrumpsParsnip · 27/12/2022 00:39

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Crazy.

katesbushh · 27/12/2022 00:50

I'm wary of them.

For balance I have a staffie, a golden retriever and a cocker.
Staffie; loves everyone, most obedient dog I've ever owned, hyperactive and intelligent.

Golden; can't have him off a lead, dislikes small children, dislikes cats, dislikes cars but he's soft with those who he loves and loves the TV

Cocker; just mental. But lovely.

All had the same training etc
The golden is the one I have to watch.

But xl bullies to make me nervous.
Mostly because of the owners you tend to find on the other end of the lead.

ThisGirlNever · 27/12/2022 00:55

Lucidas · 27/12/2022 00:00

The Rotherham case of the XL bully who killed its owner and as good as mauled the hand of her partner is scary. Raised it since it was a puppy and no other reports of violence. Why would anyone take the risk of owning one?

Exactly. How is that not a massive red flag to all the people defending these dogs.

They are massive, pure muscle beasts. A strong adult man wouldn't stand a chance against one of these dogs. A child would be ripped to shreds.

As harsh as it may sound, the more owners that are killed by these things the better. The dogs will be destroyed following the attacks and local families will then be safer. Only a complete prick would consider their XL to be 'safe'.

I would never let my children enter a home containing a bull type dog (staffie, pit bull, XL, anything similar), husky, Japanese whatever, etc.

CarrotCake84 · 27/12/2022 00:59

I can understand why people are scared of larger breed dogs, I was bitten by a collie as a child, so even now I have some anxiety over dogs in general.
Looking at statistics though, far more people are killed by humans than dogs, so humans as a species are a bigger threat.

katesbushh · 27/12/2022 01:05

@redflowerbluethorns Yes always one who brings staffies into it. You're right.
Irritating isn't it.

For the pp who brought staffies into it.
What type of person are you referring to?

My DH is a GP and I'm a radiographer. We live in a nice house. In a nice area.
We also have a golden and a cocker.
Do we fit your stereotype?

To add. The staffie is the best behaved one and I trust him loads more than my family dog the golden who is 100% more likely to bite. He's always on a lead.

Yet irresponsible dog owners and parents allow their dogs/children to bound over to him and have no control over their pets or children.
My golden will almost certainly grumble.
The staffie would be lay on his back waiting for a tummy rub.

LaBellina · 27/12/2022 01:07

YANBU I hate these breeds too and think they should be banned. I would cross the street to avoid getting near them.

Xer · 27/12/2022 01:16

YABU to be as anxious as you are. By all means be wary but that's about it. The dog hasn't shown you any aggression and you are basing your opinions on bad press. Is the new XL bully the new staffy? Seems so.

A Yorkshire terrier (tiny dog) almost took my daughters eye out. Yet my best friends Staffordshire bull terriers (3 of them) have never shown aggression around my kids (or her own).
It's not the breed, it's the individual dog, temperament and how it's raised. As a dog owner you know this.

Onceuponawhileago · 27/12/2022 01:16

katesbushh · 27/12/2022 01:05

@redflowerbluethorns Yes always one who brings staffies into it. You're right.
Irritating isn't it.

For the pp who brought staffies into it.
What type of person are you referring to?

My DH is a GP and I'm a radiographer. We live in a nice house. In a nice area.
We also have a golden and a cocker.
Do we fit your stereotype?

To add. The staffie is the best behaved one and I trust him loads more than my family dog the golden who is 100% more likely to bite. He's always on a lead.

Yet irresponsible dog owners and parents allow their dogs/children to bound over to him and have no control over their pets or children.
My golden will almost certainly grumble.
The staffie would be lay on his back waiting for a tummy rub.

That sounds exactly like the staff I was called to help with. Nice family, nice dog etc etc etc. I watched it tear apart another defenceless dog that had fallen into it's garden from a neighbouring garden. For 3 hours nobody could go out into the garden as it defended the corpse. I knew the dog, saw it play with kids etc etc. That taught me that they have a streak of behaviour in them that can come out. Never trusted one again.

Filamumof9 · 27/12/2022 01:20

A breed does not say everything about the character of the dog. We own 9 Fila brasileiro's currently and choose the ones with less ojeriza in order to have more family oriented dogs instead of sole guard dogs. These dogs are bigger than the bully XL but they do not latch onto dogs or persons in a fight. I found our chowchow but also our rotty/pitty mix more hard work than these dogs. Having said that, I can understand why they can install fear in someone. While the character of the dog may vary in a breed, characteristics such as bite force/ latching on occurs with most of the dogs within the breed.

However, the anxiety of what might happen might as well trigger a dog, if you understand what I am trying to say.

Xer · 27/12/2022 01:20

Worst dog I have seen in terms of fighting with other dogs is an Aikita. They don't always look like "big dogs" or "pure muscle beasts" but could easily rip your throat out.

ThisGirlNever · 27/12/2022 01:22

katesbushh · 27/12/2022 01:05

@redflowerbluethorns Yes always one who brings staffies into it. You're right.
Irritating isn't it.

For the pp who brought staffies into it.
What type of person are you referring to?

My DH is a GP and I'm a radiographer. We live in a nice house. In a nice area.
We also have a golden and a cocker.
Do we fit your stereotype?

To add. The staffie is the best behaved one and I trust him loads more than my family dog the golden who is 100% more likely to bite. He's always on a lead.

Yet irresponsible dog owners and parents allow their dogs/children to bound over to him and have no control over their pets or children.
My golden will almost certainly grumble.
The staffie would be lay on his back waiting for a tummy rub.

And knowing that your retriever is likely to bite, you muzzle it whenever you leave the house, don't you?

Of course you don't, because you don't care.

If a kid gets bitten, it's the child's fault for being friendly/trusting/inquisitive...

hay5689 · 27/12/2022 01:34

@ThisGirlNever of course it's the child's fault and the parents for not teaching the child to approach random animals.

My sister has a rescue dog and he's the sweetest thing but due to his background he's unpredictable and it doesn't matter how many times she tells people not to stroke him they still do.

Animals are not playthings for inquisitive children and they should be taught never to touch a dog unless the owner says it's okay.