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Neighbour’s XL Bully

427 replies

Dente · 26/12/2022 21:33

My neighbour has one of these dogs, which to be fair I always on a lead, but I’m so bloody scared of it when I am out walking my dog. He says it’s friendly and our dogs have sniffed each other and he while on leads, but I just feel so uneasy. I feel that if he slipped and that dog got loose it would be such a danger to everyone around. The area I live in is mainly families with young children and I just can’t understand why someone would get this kind of dog?

I understand all dogs can be aggressive, but all dogs don’t have this power and muscle that means they can easily kill!

OP posts:
Alfur · 26/12/2022 22:25

Our government is a joke. Who needs to get mailed to death before they ban this gross breed. Steer very clear.

Cassillero · 26/12/2022 22:26

Bigdamnheroes · 26/12/2022 21:45

So let me get this straight. This dog has never shown any aggression towards you or your dog, has never done anything to make you think it has anything but a stable temperament?

It is always on a lead or otherwise contained on your neighbours property? The only thing it has done is exist, basically?

You are scared of it because it is large and muscular and living near you? Jesus Christ, I hope you don't live in the countryside. Cows, horses, you'd be a nervous wreck.

🤣🤣🤣

Totally agree with you. Not to mention foxes, goats (they can be agressive buggers), bulls.

Or in a town with humans. I'd worry about them more to be honest. Especially ones with knives and guns. Or a drug problem. Or aggresive alcoholics.

Justapiercer · 26/12/2022 22:27

Dente · 26/12/2022 22:11

You have a really horrible attitude.

Animal owners must accept the risk their pet poses and do their best to mitigate the risk. I love many breeds of dogs, but I know that they wouldn’t be suitable with a young family so I got a spaniel. A spaniel could still attack, but I can accept that risk as I know I could likely overpower a dog of that size.

Perhaps there are some places where this kind of dog would be suitable, I just don’t think it’s a place with lots of families with young kids.

But it sounds like they are mitigating the risk. It's walked on a lead & interacted with your dog just fine.

The neighbour is just as likely to be able to kill you but I doubt you want anyone you couldn't overpower banning.

Selttan · 26/12/2022 22:28

As with a lot of dogs I think it comes down to the owner.

Pitbulls shouldnt be allowed to be adopted by novice dog owners.

Check out Bronson the Bully on Instagram - he and his brother Kush are the most adorable, loving pitbulls.

DelilahsHaven · 26/12/2022 22:29

I would be extremely wary.

A good friend of mine suffered a horrible attack from two of them recently. Her lovely dog was almost killed and has had to have a leg amputated, my friend was in hospital for several days and will be recovering for some time yet. She could so easily have been killed. Two attending police officers struggled to get the XL Bullies under control.

The Bullies were destroyed. It is unfair on the dogs and everyone else around them if they are not owned by extremely responsible people.

Prisonbreak · 26/12/2022 22:30

Please educate yourself

LaLuz7 · 26/12/2022 22:30

Justapiercer · 26/12/2022 22:27

But it sounds like they are mitigating the risk. It's walked on a lead & interacted with your dog just fine.

The neighbour is just as likely to be able to kill you but I doubt you want anyone you couldn't overpower banning.

A lead will not contain a 60 kg bull type dog when they decide to attack. An adult man isn't even guaranteed to be able to pull it away.

A lead is not adequate risk mitigation when you consider the potential damage they can cause.

LouLou900 · 26/12/2022 22:30

Bigdamnheroes · 26/12/2022 21:45

So let me get this straight. This dog has never shown any aggression towards you or your dog, has never done anything to make you think it has anything but a stable temperament?

It is always on a lead or otherwise contained on your neighbours property? The only thing it has done is exist, basically?

You are scared of it because it is large and muscular and living near you? Jesus Christ, I hope you don't live in the countryside. Cows, horses, you'd be a nervous wreck.

Ugh, an XL bully owner then. Do you not read the news? This breed being friendly is the exception, rather than the rule.

Dente · 26/12/2022 22:31

Justapiercer · 26/12/2022 22:27

But it sounds like they are mitigating the risk. It's walked on a lead & interacted with your dog just fine.

The neighbour is just as likely to be able to kill you but I doubt you want anyone you couldn't overpower banning.

what happens if he loses control of the dog becomes aggressive vs what happens if I lose control of my spaniel ?

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ThePoshUns · 26/12/2022 22:32

Yanbu at all. Where I live a child and an old lady have been killed by these dogs. They should be banned. And all the apologists in this thread have no idea.
They are freaks of nature and bred to be aggressive.
I love dogs but wouldn't go anywhere near one.

Comeonbarbiebrianharvey · 26/12/2022 22:33

Definitely YANBU. Dog lover here, one of these jumped out of a hedge near me, wouldn't leave me and dog alone, I was terrified.

Mainly because a few people have been killed by this breed. They are massive and sadly some people, some, have them because they look aggressive. How many people have the breed killed this year?

Hopefully your neighbour is responsible and it's a well loved and trained pet, but I'd not take any chances and mend any holes in the fence. I try and subtly cross the road with kids tbh, don't want to offend the owners, I love big dogs but these have been bred to look like beasts!

Unforgettablefire · 26/12/2022 22:35

@Dente same goes for any dog doesn't it? Are you suggesting people are only entitled to get fluffy spaniels or breeds that you approve of in case they lose control?
What if you lose control of you spaniel and it kills a small child? Or runs into the road and causes an accident?

jtaeapa · 26/12/2022 22:37

They should have restrictions on who can own one and where one can be housed.

SwishSwishBisch · 26/12/2022 22:38

7 of the 16 dog deaths in the UK in the last three years alone were due to attacks by XL bullies.
OP is absolutely not unreasonable to not trust this dog, and everyone whining about the “owner not the breed” being the problem really need to pipe down considering we have fuck all mechanism for ensuring these enormous, powerful dogs are owned by responsible people.

Justapiercer · 26/12/2022 22:38

Dente · 26/12/2022 22:31

what happens if he loses control of the dog becomes aggressive vs what happens if I lose control of my spaniel ?

What happens if the lions up the road from me in the zoo escape, what happens if someone loses control of their car, what happens if the neighbour loses control and goes on a murderous rampage.

Plenty of things can kill you,my dog has been attacked 3 times, once quite badly, all by owners shouting "don't worry he's friendly " & none were bull breeds.

I agree all dogs should come with licensing conditions but that's another thread completely.

Unless you're going to move or kill the dog yourself I wouldn't waste any more energy worrying about it. I'm sure you'll survive.

XenoBitch · 26/12/2022 22:39

YABU and wasting energy along with causing yourself unnecessary anxiety about 'what ifs'

That is not a healthy way to live.

WineDarkNo308 · 26/12/2022 22:41

Dente · 26/12/2022 21:55

Horses and cows are generally confined.

I can choose not to be near a bull, I cannot choose not to be near this dog. It lives next door to me and the owner has to take it on a walk.

It doesn’t growl or snap at my spaniel, but it does seem very nervous/intensely stares - not the usually happy waggy greetings.

It’s probably picking up on your nerves.

Onceuponawhileago · 26/12/2022 22:42

TwoBoyMamma · 26/12/2022 22:24

How many have you seen take an aptitude test? I seen 2 xls today living with 4 westies and I’m telling you that I was more scared of the snarling snapping westies . I don’t think you fully understand the breed to say they are unstable with other dogs my one ran away from a pug when she went for him & my other was attacked by a black lab she never even retaliated 🤷🏽‍♀️

I don't think you understand rescue. There are hundreds of dogs coming through for emergency care, rescue, appraisal every month. Therefore you see a tiny tiny percentage of socialised xl bull breeds. More than any other breed bull breeds get ' switched' really fast by fast movement, sudden movement or challenge. This is why so many of them that kill kids were previously 'perfect' with kids. They are not stable. My GSD all come from obedience lines where every dog has to pass a hugely complicated test- with people, stress, other dogs, odd situations etc. Only dogs that pass get bred from- so you can be mostly sure that they are pretty balanced dogs. There is none of this testing for bull breeds so lots are backyard bred, mostly in shitty council estates. They are used in drug making houses, to police drug dealers houses, prostitution etc. Completely unstable and should be banned.

thelengthspeoplegoto · 26/12/2022 22:42

I'd be very vary too. I don't care if it hasn't shown any previous sign of aggression. I wouldn't go near it and wouldn't let it near my kids or my dog.

Summerfun54321 · 26/12/2022 22:44

The problem is the owners not the dogs. A knife in the wrong hands is dangerous, as is a very large powerful poorly trained dog. Dog ownership should be more regulated in urban areas. Those denying this is even an issue aren't helping.

Cassillero · 26/12/2022 22:45

SwishSwishBisch · 26/12/2022 22:38

7 of the 16 dog deaths in the UK in the last three years alone were due to attacks by XL bullies.
OP is absolutely not unreasonable to not trust this dog, and everyone whining about the “owner not the breed” being the problem really need to pipe down considering we have fuck all mechanism for ensuring these enormous, powerful dogs are owned by responsible people.

7?

And how many people have been killed by humans in that time frame?

Jesus Christ, talk about priorities.

Enterusername111333 · 26/12/2022 22:46

Cassillero · 26/12/2022 22:45

7?

And how many people have been killed by humans in that time frame?

Jesus Christ, talk about priorities.

What kind of comparison is that...?

Wishihadanalgorithm · 26/12/2022 22:46

These dogs are bred as killing machines. Perhaps they had a place in the gladiatorial ring but as a pet to live in a 3 bed semi? Give over.

They aren’t pets and should be banned from being so. I’d be happy, if they were all neutered, and only allowed out in public fully muzzled. I also think the owners should have a psychological test - do they have the right mentality to own these weapons? Probably an unpopular opinion but I could not care less. I’m a massive dog lover as well.

SwishSwishBisch · 26/12/2022 22:47

Cassillero · 26/12/2022 22:45

7?

And how many people have been killed by humans in that time frame?

Jesus Christ, talk about priorities.

Please do deliberately miss the point 🙄 That’s almost 50% of all dog deaths. That’s a lot. I realise whataboutery is the preferred argument of choice for those on weak ground but maybe try applying some thought eh?

TwoBoyMamma · 26/12/2022 22:49

Onceuponawhileago · 26/12/2022 22:42

I don't think you understand rescue. There are hundreds of dogs coming through for emergency care, rescue, appraisal every month. Therefore you see a tiny tiny percentage of socialised xl bull breeds. More than any other breed bull breeds get ' switched' really fast by fast movement, sudden movement or challenge. This is why so many of them that kill kids were previously 'perfect' with kids. They are not stable. My GSD all come from obedience lines where every dog has to pass a hugely complicated test- with people, stress, other dogs, odd situations etc. Only dogs that pass get bred from- so you can be mostly sure that they are pretty balanced dogs. There is none of this testing for bull breeds so lots are backyard bred, mostly in shitty council estates. They are used in drug making houses, to police drug dealers houses, prostitution etc. Completely unstable and should be banned.

Sorry but I disagree and I can only talk of my personal experience with them. Luckily none of your message drug dealers or prostitution applies to me , I don’t trust rescues after my Nan rescued a Jack Russel that’s bit 5 people so forgive me there 😂 luckily i do have all the background on my dogs I said how many have you seen take an aptitude test , the dogs can’t put themselves forward for this can they 🤷🏽‍♀️ Therefore it falls down to irresponsible owners. They should be owned by certain people I believe this but it’s impossible to police you still see breeds off the banned dogs list. But I do not agree with the “kill them all” attitude

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