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Pushchair fight on bus

720 replies

Partygal · 19/12/2022 22:25

After picking my child up from her child minder today, I arrived the bus stop to find two women with buggies waiting.

Knowing that the driver wouldn’t let three of us on, I walked round the corner to the previous stop and got on there.

When it arrived at the next stop, sure enough only mum was allowed on - the other was told to wait 30 minutes for the next bus. I was screamed at and called a cunt and a queue jumper by one mum who tried to shove me off the bus.

I don’t think I did anything wrong, nor did the police when they turned up after being called by the driver.

What the fuck is wrong with people?

OP posts:
TheOrigRights · 20/12/2022 00:04

I would have done the same as you OP, but probably because I would have worked out that I had time to walk to the previous stop which is much more preferable to standing around.
That I would have got on it would have been a bonus.

Coyoacan · 20/12/2022 00:06

You can't be a queue jumper if you are at a different bus stop

The spirit of the OP's actions was indeed queue jumping

LaBellina · 20/12/2022 00:09

You would have gotten a very angry state from me and I probably would have cursed you under my breath but yes, what she did was OTT. I do get her anger though, what you did wasn’t very nice.

LaBellina · 20/12/2022 00:09

Stare not state

sue20 · 20/12/2022 00:14

Well OP wouldn’t have known whether there were also waiting buggies at the previous stop and equally one of the waiting buggies could presumably have done the same. OP could be bothered to walk back. There was no way of knowing whether the bus was already occupied by maximum buggies from earlier stops anyway. We all do similar things when looking for shorter queues or speeding up a bit to race someone to a queue place. Sounds like the person who lost it may have been stressed and possibly had a reason to get somewhere quickly.

Badge113 · 20/12/2022 00:15

Samuel Davies sounds like an incel 🤮

What's up Sam? Have you been rejected by a bunch of those so called scummy single mummys you speak of?

Thursa · 20/12/2022 00:16

I’ve seen posters on here told not to bother reporting a crime because the police won’t come out, but they will show up to women arguing over room on a bus? Britain has changed…

Postgraddope · 20/12/2022 00:21

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 19/12/2022 22:46

You had the opportunity to fold before either of them got on the bus. You knew what was coming, you made a deliberate and conscious decision to screw one of those women over so that you could get your way.

You saw that 2 women and their children had been waiting longer than you and would rightfully get priority on the spaces and you thought 'fuck them'. You didn't even have the moral fibre and general manners to limit the impact by putting down your pushchair tin the hope that then all 3 of you could get on the bus. You made no effort to try to damage control the situation so you held up every bus user while the police were called. You created that whole situation and still think that you were fully in the right.

It's all about you in your world isn't it. Would you have done the same thing if a wheelchair user was waiting at the bus stop? If you'd seen a couple of elderly infirm people who might have used the priority seat reducing the amount of space for pushchairs?

Am not sure what you are looking for with this thread …definitely not applause for being a thoughtful,considerate human being !

Rainbowshit · 20/12/2022 00:22

Bit of a dick move from you OP. Hope your kids don't end up in the same class at school. That would be pretty awkward. 😬

ilo · 20/12/2022 00:25

I don’t see anything wrong with walking to the earlier stop, but it would have been polite to fold your buggy so the other women and babies could get on.

TrashyPanda · 20/12/2022 00:27

Why didn’t the other two simply fold their buggies?

Mrspatmoressouffle · 20/12/2022 00:30

OP was smarter than they were. Not her problem

JoyBeorge · 20/12/2022 00:31

Badge113 · 20/12/2022 00:15

Samuel Davies sounds like an incel 🤮

What's up Sam? Have you been rejected by a bunch of those so called scummy single mummys you speak of?

You realise females can be incels too?

In case you're using it as an insult against men like..

LaBellina · 20/12/2022 00:33

The use of the word ‘females’ like we are some sort of animal species says it all really.

showysnowy · 20/12/2022 00:33

Clever move and there's many phrases such as the "the early bird catches the worm" and "if you snooze you'll loose" lol but It was risky for the two mothers who waited longer so they should have considered folding their pushchairs regardless of op walking up the bus stop or not as there could have been another mum/dad with a pushchair there on it already! There's no guarantee both of them could have got on so yes they were being twats.

SleepingStandingUp · 20/12/2022 00:42

I'll admit OP I've done this once, and felt like a total bitch and our buses are more regular than yours (there was one person waiting and actually they did get on my bus. They didn't know I'd walked down) . Even as I was doing it (I REALLY needed to get somewhere) I thought it would be karma if the bus had two buggies on at my stop and they got off at the next stop.

O one deserves to be pushed and manhandled, esp in front of their infant but you know what you did was selfish and its not a surprise she was annoyed. I think IF yo u could have reasonably collapsed your buggy you should have, knowing that there were young babies waiting to get on who'd been waiting longer than you. It's a do unto other thing.

Rachie1973 · 20/12/2022 00:43

Partygal · 19/12/2022 22:25

After picking my child up from her child minder today, I arrived the bus stop to find two women with buggies waiting.

Knowing that the driver wouldn’t let three of us on, I walked round the corner to the previous stop and got on there.

When it arrived at the next stop, sure enough only mum was allowed on - the other was told to wait 30 minutes for the next bus. I was screamed at and called a cunt and a queue jumper by one mum who tried to shove me off the bus.

I don’t think I did anything wrong, nor did the police when they turned up after being called by the driver.

What the fuck is wrong with people?

You didn’t do anything wrong but whilst I wouldn’t have been so confrontational with you I’d have considered you a selfish cow.

Comtesse · 20/12/2022 00:46

I don’t think OP did much wrong but man alive I do NOT miss this kind of aggro which is not uncommon when travelling on buses with a pushchair - what a pain it is!
some buses now take 3 buggies which makes it slightly less painful at least…..

ChimbarasiKotapaxi · 20/12/2022 00:48

It's still queue jumping

MrsMiddleMother · 20/12/2022 00:49

I think it depends on the ages of the kids in question tbh. If you've got a toddler in a buggy and they've got an infant in a pram then yabu but if it's the other way round then yanbu

WreckedUmbrella · 20/12/2022 00:49

Do we, perhaps, need more buses that are geared to the needs of women with pushchairs and prams, and therefore designed to adapt to more than just two pushchairs at a time?

Yes, I think we do.

TheLittlestLightOnTheXmasTree · 20/12/2022 00:50

Doesn't anyone told the damn things down anymore?? All 3 of you should have...

Hope nobody was hogging the wheelchair place...

WreckedUmbrella · 20/12/2022 00:52

And more wheelchair spaces too, and a nod to reducing the conflict between pushchair space - necessary, and wheelchair space - equally necessary.

SleepingStandingUp · 20/12/2022 00:52

Badge113 · 20/12/2022 00:00

I'm only on page 1 but I'm already struck by the amount of people suggesting it's easy to just fold your buggy on the spot.

I don't know about others but mine certainly wouldn't be able to be folded there and then, not with the amount of stuff in/under it. The whole bus would be waiting whilst I scramble about trying to get everything out, dropping things as I go.

Perhaps I'm just unusually disorganised.

Anyway, I have to vote YANBU because I did exactly the same thing on Friday 😁

Are you new to buggy bus threads? Back I ntbe day, people used to take their newborn triplets on the bus, fold down the pram whilst lofting the triplets in the air, so a months worth of shopping and bring it all back, again collapsing the pram on the bus 😉😂 that's when every starts with the "buggies should be banned / everyone should have to fold their buggy regardless of the bus being empty / everyone should have an umbrella type buggy regardless of the practicality of it" etc.

I'm with you tho. Twins who def wouldn't just sit there calmly whilst I relocated all the shopping into the none existent luggage space (it's now tiny and holds newspapers), then folded the double buggy in half (which is actually really easy so it's a double so it doesn't fold that small) all whilst the bus sits still and everyone calmly waits patiently 😂

PotatoScone1 · 20/12/2022 00:54

Coyoacan · 20/12/2022 00:06

You can't be a queue jumper if you are at a different bus stop

The spirit of the OP's actions was indeed queue jumping

Yeah the difference is that she knew they were waiting and did what she did to beat them to it. The deliberate action makes it queue jumping.

I am past the days of buggy wars (and drove most places anyway) but what is the etiquette if the bus has a buggy space and a wheelchair space? If a second wheelchair gets on, should buggy user be folding/vacating, or does the wheelchair user wait in this scenario?

Its no minor thing, getting kicked off the bus with your baby in bad weather to let someone else on in your place. Especially if you live in a place with crap public transport where they bus comes once an hour. I feel like people on here make out like it’s no big deal to have to vacate the bus but actually it really can be.

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