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Pushchair fight on bus

720 replies

Partygal · 19/12/2022 22:25

After picking my child up from her child minder today, I arrived the bus stop to find two women with buggies waiting.

Knowing that the driver wouldn’t let three of us on, I walked round the corner to the previous stop and got on there.

When it arrived at the next stop, sure enough only mum was allowed on - the other was told to wait 30 minutes for the next bus. I was screamed at and called a cunt and a queue jumper by one mum who tried to shove me off the bus.

I don’t think I did anything wrong, nor did the police when they turned up after being called by the driver.

What the fuck is wrong with people?

OP posts:
WhatAmIDoingWrong123 · 20/12/2022 16:29

lieselotte · 20/12/2022 14:00

So you take them out. Not a reason not to fold, if it's one that can be folded.

Well, it is a reason not to fold it because it makes folding it rather unpractical and means you have to have a lot of extra stuff in your arms as well as your baby. My baby is 1, she can’t walk or stand alone so I wouldn’t put her on the floor and she would likely try to get off a seat and fall on her face so no, folding isn’t always very sensible. I will never fold my pram up on a bus that should be better designed for all of its users. These threads make out like women should apologise for being mothers and having prams. We’re part of society and so are are children.

takealettermsjones · 20/12/2022 16:41

Plumbear2 · 20/12/2022 16:12

Buses need to go back to having buggy/suitcases storage under the stairs and a buggy storage behind the front door. Think 60s-90s buses. All the buggys had to be folded, this allowed 10 + buggys to be carried and no one got left behind. for those saying it's to much to fold, carry kids shopping etc well my grandparents did it, then my parents and also myself managed it just fine. But we weren't snowflakes.

Snowflakes/woke/back in my day klaxon!

EarthlyNightshade · 20/12/2022 16:48

Aside from the fact that this did not happen, I am amazed at the number of people who think that getting on at an earlier stop is queue jumping.
Staying at the stop and elbowing past is a different story.
My nearest bus stop is by a secondary school. If I am travelling at home time I always walk back a stop to ensure I get on as not everyone does. I guess a lot of people on this thread would go to their regular stop and wait.

Devoutspoken · 20/12/2022 16:52

Whatamidoingwrong, completely agree, and looking after small humans who can't walk yet, it's like women and small kids should just stay at home

harrassedmumto3 · 20/12/2022 16:54

You were sneaky, unreasonable and deserved a mouthful.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 20/12/2022 17:10

I think OP was clever and resourceful. She traded one sort of inconvenience (waiting) for another (walking to another stop.) The others could have done the same but chose not to.

Agree that public transport should have more accommodation for equipment as it's a reality that people need to travel with wheelchairs, pushchairs, shopping and other large items.

Lockheart · 20/12/2022 17:37

harrassedmumto3 · 20/12/2022 16:54

You were sneaky, unreasonable and deserved a mouthful.

Its not sneaky. The other stop isn't a fecking secret.

dentydown · 20/12/2022 17:47

I don’t think it’s sneaky. I always go to the bus garage to get on the bus to jump the massive queue at the shops.

I’m disabled, and use a rollator and experience bad buggy behavior on a regular basis.

I’ve been getting on the front doors, whilst a buggy jumps in the back doors and been made to leave the bus before.

I’ve also had my rollator grabbed by a mum, who attempted to fold it because her buggy didn’t fit, then act all arsey when I yelled at her to stop.

I can quite believe that they had a go at you for “jumping the queue”. Some buggy users are very entitled.

LadyWhistledownsPen · 20/12/2022 18:02

Its wasn't necessarily wrong but it was shitty. You knew that one of the mums at the other stop wouldn't be able to get on. You could've folded your Pushchair down so they could both have gotten on. I say this a mother myself. My daughter is 2 but still uses her pushchair for long journeys. If it was me I'd have got her out and folded it, same as I would do if I saw a wheelchair user needing to get on.

DdraigGoch · 20/12/2022 18:09

Lockheart · 20/12/2022 07:39

So when someone walks past the crowd of people who don't move down the tube platform so they can get to the end of the platform and a quiet carriage to get on / get a seat, is that queue jumping?

If you know temporary traffic lights are screwing up one road and you take another to get around them instead of sitting in traffic, is that queue jumping?

If there is an empty checkout in a shop but everyone's queuing at the more convenient one on the other side of the shop and you use the empty one, is that queue jumping?

If you know where the train stops so you wait in a free spot where you know the door will be even though there are others dotted about the platform, is that queue jumping?

Are you leaving anyone out in the cold for half an hour by doing so? Some of your examples are queue jumping, but only in a trivial way.

In any case there would have been room for all three of them, if the first thing that the OP did when she got on was to fold her pram. She didn't, she's an arse-hole too.

DumpedByText · 20/12/2022 18:26

Yep that's a dick move, in theory you queue jumped and you knew one of them wouldn't be let on. Out of order!

KarmaStar · 20/12/2022 19:07

Ywbvu.
It's not clever.you knew your actions would mean one of thetwo people in a queue ahead of you would be turned away.
Sly.

ReneBumsWombats · 20/12/2022 19:28

KarmaStar · 20/12/2022 19:07

Ywbvu.
It's not clever.you knew your actions would mean one of thetwo people in a queue ahead of you would be turned away.
Sly.

How is it not clever? She got a space on the bus that she wouldn't otherwise have got.

Tonty · 20/12/2022 19:36

This thread is hilarious. Wonder how many fake outraged posters here have moved into areas just for the good schools? or found God for the church school? or been promoted at work over someone who's been there longer than them simply because they spotted an opportunity and grabbed it before the others did. It's called being smart. The other 2 remained in their spot and @Partygal got ahead. That's just life!

InWalksBarberalla · 20/12/2022 19:58

This thread is sad. I thought UK people were known for their politeness and consideration and here we have more than half the posters celebrating the OPs queue jumping as if she is some kind of genius instead of just a selfish person.

EasterIsland · 20/12/2022 20:02

will never fold my pram up on a bus that should be better designed for all of its users. These threads make out like women should apologise for being mothers and having prams. We’re part of society and so are are children.

But wheelchair users or those who use mobility aid such as@dentydown aren’t?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 20/12/2022 20:04

And yet no one faults the driver for not assisting the 3rd mum. Could've asked passengers to move to rear; make space, give up a seat. Not to mention all the disabled people I've seen left off for lack of space. 🤦‍♀️

ReneBumsWombats · 20/12/2022 20:06

I thought UK people were known for their politeness and consideration

😂

ReneBumsWombats · 20/12/2022 20:14

dentydown · 20/12/2022 17:47

I don’t think it’s sneaky. I always go to the bus garage to get on the bus to jump the massive queue at the shops.

I’m disabled, and use a rollator and experience bad buggy behavior on a regular basis.

I’ve been getting on the front doors, whilst a buggy jumps in the back doors and been made to leave the bus before.

I’ve also had my rollator grabbed by a mum, who attempted to fold it because her buggy didn’t fit, then act all arsey when I yelled at her to stop.

I can quite believe that they had a go at you for “jumping the queue”. Some buggy users are very entitled.

I thought wheelchair users trumped buggies for bus space? Not that you'd kick off a wheelchair user if a buggy came on, but that if a wheelchair user and a buggy both came on at the same time, the wheelchair user took priority.

XenoBitch · 20/12/2022 20:19

YANBU
It is not queue jumping to leave one queue and go to another. You could have gone to the previous queue and found several people with buggies there too.
Buses are awfully packed this time of year, and tempers are frayed.

Dallidalli · 20/12/2022 20:31

The real question is:
How many people are going to try this now too? 😂
Pram fights breaking out left right and centre. Breast milk and dirty nappies used in chemical warfare flying through the air. Bus floors covered in ripped out extensions.

Was she cheeky to go to the other bus stop? Yes.
Was she clever to go to the other bus stop? Hell yes 🤣

Spectre8 · 20/12/2022 20:33

Devoutspoken · 20/12/2022 14:09

I think buses should be designed with everyone's needs in mind, to encourage more people to use them more often, including parents with pushchairs and shopping

They already are! How big or long do you want the bus be the roads and getting round corners can only meet certain size vehicles.

Unless we just get rid of seats on the bottom deck but then you would discrimatr against those who cannot get up stairs but need to sit. And no those fold down seats won't help either.

WiddlinDiddlin · 20/12/2022 21:18

Just ditch buses entirely, have cattle trucks instead. In fact if you get a tipper trailer, at each stop the driver can just tell those getting off to let go of the sides, tip it and those disembarking can slide out.

This works as transport.. its how our local YF lot get round their pub crawls when pubs are several miles apart.

NippyWoowoo · 20/12/2022 21:18

I think buses should be designed with everyone's needs in mind, to encourage more people to use them more often, including parents with pushchairs and shopping

Frequent buses would solve the problem, no need to alter the design.

DeliberatelyObtuse · 20/12/2022 22:13

Partygal · 20/12/2022 10:43

Got my car back from the garage. I’ll give them a toot and a wave if they are at the bus stop when I drive past later!

Make sure they're standing near a massive puddle so you can soak them Hmm