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AIBU to think this might be it for the UK and will never get better?

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Desperado40 · 19/12/2022 06:37

I am sorry for a very pessimistic view, but I feel we are stuck in a downward spiral in the UK. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that we will be stuck in this loop with the effects of Brexit and a decade of austerity taking decades to ever recover from (if ever?).
If anyone has a better outlook, please let me know.

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WatchoRulo · 20/12/2022 11:10

helford · 19/12/2022 21:18

Many reasons but the ability to be whoever you want to be is a pull.
I can turn up at any Doctors surgery with a CT bill from a friend and get treatment.

Same with work, we don't have enforcement and again can be anyone, you simply cannot do these things in Europe with the same ease.

There has been research into this.

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Yeah - that's not due to ID cards is it? In you daft scenario you can just take someone else's card.

What you actually mean is there is a lack of enforcement - and I agree that's a pull factor.

ID cards would be a very expensive way of not solving that issue.

We need proper enforcement, not expensive and pointless ID cards.

Badbadbunny · 20/12/2022 12:45

WatchoRulo · 20/12/2022 11:10

Yeah - that's not due to ID cards is it? In you daft scenario you can just take someone else's card.

What you actually mean is there is a lack of enforcement - and I agree that's a pull factor.

ID cards would be a very expensive way of not solving that issue.

We need proper enforcement, not expensive and pointless ID cards.

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ID cards would have a picture, so no, you couldn't just take someone else's card unless they looked a lot like you!

Ursuladevine · 20/12/2022 18:00

OooScotland · 19/12/2022 16:32

I don’t understand why you asked, and, honestly, who do you think you are asking what we can offer Norway? but in order..

Of course I’ve been there. When we were younger we lived in Oslo for ten years with DH’s previous job. As a result of our previous career moves we both speak Norwegian and German.

His current employer (A Norwegian renewable energy research company) has been asking him to join a new team there (not in Oslo) for the past three years. So far he’s chosen to work remotely from Scotland because of Covid and family commitments. I will be able to continue to be self employed in the field of adult education.

Yes, we absolutely could move there (pre approved work visas) and now we’ve got about 15 years left to work were starting to think it would be a great next move for us based on…well, everything, particularly healthcare.

I won’t be engaging any further with this.

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I think the move might do you good in terms of your mood! 😂

the PP just asked what you offered Norway presumably thinking about visa requirements but you’ve reacted like she’s ripped to shreds your family!

Chateaudiaries · 20/12/2022 18:37

I think the decision to leave the European Union was the stupidest political mistake ever and our economy is really starting to feel the effects. I do hope that the younger generation will be able to rectify this when the brexiteer generation have all but died off.

In the meantime we have dual nationality for UK and EU and my dc have additional US passports. We are both engineers and will be leaving UK in 2024 when our youngest dc finishes gcse. We have already been shifting money out of uk since Brexit and thankfully before Liz crashed the economy and the exchange rate Xmas Wink

AngelusBell · 04/02/2023 05:11

Sugarfree23 · 19/12/2022 06:50

It's a cycle, it will get better, look up the 'Winter of Discontent'. The early 80s had lots of strikes too. The miners were out for a year.

That was because the Tory government decided to close all the mines and put whole communities out of work.

TrinnySmith · 04/02/2023 06:29

bellac11 · 19/12/2022 09:16

Most asylum seekers go to other european countries and every single time this sort of question is asked that answer is given. Look at the numbers yourself if you dont believe me

So its not accurate to say that no one ever answers this question

We take in a very very small number of refugees/asylum seekers

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Stats on immigration
More come to UK than EU
commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/promoting-our-european-way-life/statistics-migration-europe_en#:~:text=Migration%20numbers%20in%202022%201.92%20million%20persons,immigrated%20to%20the%20EU%200.96%20million%20persons

TrinnySmith · 04/02/2023 06:31

^^ That is foreign born residents per total population.

GPTec1 · 04/02/2023 08:54

@TrinnySmith

Do you not know the difference between refugees/asylum seekers and people coming here for work, family visas, right of abode (common wealth/HK) foreign students ?

Delectable · 07/07/2023 01:10

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cassiatwenty · 07/07/2023 01:10

YABU

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