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To realise I've completely misunderstood this Christmas dish

159 replies

strawberriesplease · 13/12/2022 22:52

Bear with me as my excuse is I'm vegetarian.

With friends who were talking about their Christmas dinner. Said they were having a three bird roast, and I really thought the birds were all stuffed into each other.

I just couldn't figure out how that happened.

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OP posts:
Bbq1 · 14/12/2022 07:56

Sounds awful, the idea is just unpleasant.

RampantIvy · 14/12/2022 07:57

What on earth is "hysterical" about my perfectly calm post?

I don't think calling it revolting is perfectly calm.

RampantIvy · 14/12/2022 07:59

You could have said it doesn't appeal to you. I would quite like to try a three bird roast, but getting one just for the two of us would be over consumption, and a lot of it would go in the freezer.

ActionThisDay · 14/12/2022 08:01

knittingaddict · 14/12/2022 07:55

Eh? I don't understand your logic. It's not like you eat more because it's more than one form of poultry. You also eat the whole lot. Where's the waste?

You also sound a bit joyless. Christmas is supposed to be a feast. The whole point of Christmas Dinner is abundance.

The waste is in the lack of appreciation, for me, and in the celebration of over-consumption of animals.

I'm not remotely joyless- very joyful, in fact- and I love the abundance of Christmas. I just don't think you need to be shoving multiple animals into one another in order to experience that. But if that's your idea of a joyful activity, crack on- I'm not calling for the things to be banned, merely saying that I personally find them revolting.

panko · 14/12/2022 08:01

strawberriesplease · 13/12/2022 22:54

I think it's like each bird ground up into like a pate thing then wrapped around each other. Bit like a sponge roll

Sounds vile

panko · 14/12/2022 08:02

ActionThisDay · 14/12/2022 07:08

I think it’s important to acknowledge you are eating meat- that an animal died for your meal, and to treat that fact with respect. So appreciate it, don’t waste it, don’t turn it into just a layer between two other birds. I find it disrespectful, just as it would be disrespectful to throw it away uneaten.

A pointless waste, which presumably comes from people wanting to create a sense of festive over-abundance - we have so much food we’re stuffing birds inside each other to create a massive block of meat! It turns my stomach.

I agree. if you eat meat yoy should be eating it in small amounts and respecting an animal died for this.

Thefriendlyone · 14/12/2022 08:06

Does the word roast not give it away….?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/12/2022 08:11

I would say it's perfectly possible to respect the fact that an animal died so I can eat meat and also to eat rather a lot of meat in one go on a feast day. I don't eat that much meat the rest of the year. The whole point of festive food for me is to eat the special foods associated with that time of year. I also happily eat offal. I imagine a lot of the people shuddering about eating the prime cuts wrapped around each other would also refuse to touch the other parts of the animal. That seems worse to me.

dottiedodah · 14/12/2022 08:26

Sounds ghastly. I am not veggie either. Just another deviation of a roast meat .think I will pass thanks anyway

AccountCreateUsername · 14/12/2022 10:45

ApexPredator · 13/12/2022 23:57

I wanted one year to create a vegetarian version of this, and decided as follows:

A raisin
Inside a cranberry
Inside a sprout
Inside a satsuma
Inside a red cabbage

I never got round to making it as Waitrose had a suitable nut-based alternative but would not be surprised it this combo is a vegan/vege best seller next year. All the Christmas flavours in a five-plant roast!

Do it @ApexPredator 😆

knittingaddict · 14/12/2022 10:56

ActionThisDay · 14/12/2022 08:01

The waste is in the lack of appreciation, for me, and in the celebration of over-consumption of animals.

I'm not remotely joyless- very joyful, in fact- and I love the abundance of Christmas. I just don't think you need to be shoving multiple animals into one another in order to experience that. But if that's your idea of a joyful activity, crack on- I'm not calling for the things to be banned, merely saying that I personally find them revolting.

So a 3 bird roast shared by multiple people and all eating an entirely reasonable amount of meat is worse that the same number of people eating a similar amount of meat, but just one type of poultry? How? Really, how? I don't understand.

Say the birds were all separate and some people ate one type and others another type. Would that be ok, or just as bad?

(Obviously a vegetarian is going to argue that there is no reasonable amount of meat consumption, but let's ignore that for now.)

knittingaddict · 14/12/2022 10:58

I might add that I've never eaten a three bird roast in my life and probably never will because it doesn't particularly appeal. Each to their own.

knittingaddict · 14/12/2022 11:01

So op, please explain the pate thing ? I need to know how you understood meat so badly.

ActionThisDay · 14/12/2022 11:06

knittingaddict · 14/12/2022 10:56

So a 3 bird roast shared by multiple people and all eating an entirely reasonable amount of meat is worse that the same number of people eating a similar amount of meat, but just one type of poultry? How? Really, how? I don't understand.

Say the birds were all separate and some people ate one type and others another type. Would that be ok, or just as bad?

(Obviously a vegetarian is going to argue that there is no reasonable amount of meat consumption, but let's ignore that for now.)

The same number of birds cooked separately and each appreciated- fine.

It's something about stuffing them all together that for me takes it from being just lots of meat to a being a deliberate display of pointless excess consumption without appreciation of the individual elements. Treating an animals' life as a sort of novelty- you've tried a roast bird, now try three stuffed together! Now five! Now seven! I find it truly gross.

But I'm not sure we're getting anywhere with this- I'm merely giving my own personal view and personal reasons. You are welcome to hold a different view and to eat as many birds inside other birds as you wish.

panko · 14/12/2022 11:07

ActionThisDay · 14/12/2022 11:06

The same number of birds cooked separately and each appreciated- fine.

It's something about stuffing them all together that for me takes it from being just lots of meat to a being a deliberate display of pointless excess consumption without appreciation of the individual elements. Treating an animals' life as a sort of novelty- you've tried a roast bird, now try three stuffed together! Now five! Now seven! I find it truly gross.

But I'm not sure we're getting anywhere with this- I'm merely giving my own personal view and personal reasons. You are welcome to hold a different view and to eat as many birds inside other birds as you wish.

Yes I agree

NatalieIsFreezing · 14/12/2022 11:39

To me it's gross because I can't imagine all 3 birds being cooked very well, as mentioned above.

Banjoman · 14/12/2022 11:43

panko · 14/12/2022 08:02

I agree. if you eat meat yoy should be eating it in small amounts and respecting an animal died for this.

Why should you eat it in small
amounts?

panko · 14/12/2022 11:46

Banjoman · 14/12/2022 11:43

Why should you eat it in small
amounts?

Why would you eat vast quantities of it? It's not good for the environment

Hugasauras · 14/12/2022 11:56

YABU to have a quorn roast because a large chunk of quorn is gross and there's loads of really nice vegetarian Christmas dinner options that don't involve that horrible grey weird textured stuff Grin

But seriously this thread has really amused me. The image of someone thinking you pull one out of the inside of the other whole like some sort of magician's hat GrinGrinGrin

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 14/12/2022 12:00

Does this help?

I'll be having a several nut roast.

To realise I've completely misunderstood this Christmas dish
CrabDuckDuckCrab · 14/12/2022 12:02

Oh, I LOVE a Quorn roast. The secret is not to stab the sausage casing it comes in, so it keeps all the juice in. And then you have the leftovers in sandwiches, with stuffing. SO. GOOD.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 14/12/2022 12:04

I get that. It's the lack of appreciation and celebration of over-consumption, I suppose. I genuinely find it revolting.

Appreciation for what or whom? Once the animal is dead, they will neither know nor care.

Who said anything about over-consumption? Surely it's not a strange concept that people might decide to have a bit of three different things rather than a lot of just one? It's not like it's one person at one meal eating a tiny bit of three animals who died just for their one meal and the rest being thrown away; it will be shared by a number of people and/or the leftovers put in the fridge/freezer to be eaten another day.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 14/12/2022 12:15

It's the lack of appreciation and celebration of over-consumption, I suppose. I genuinely find it revolting.

And the veg? People make far too many of those at Christmas too. All those traditional sprouts few eat. All the nuts and other bits and bobs that get bought and either guzzled or ignored?

I'll buy as and eat much or as little locally reared meat as I choose. And a good 3 bird roast is an absolute delight. Blame Aldi/Lidl's etc for the gross, cheap, unloved versions - as bad all their semi rotted fruit and veg

RampantIvy · 14/12/2022 12:20

I really like the sound of that Morrisons three bird roast. It doesn't sound OTT at all.

I always cook loads of veg when I do a roast as we love bubble and squaek, and we like sprouts Grin