To think the British royal family has had its day?

[Ladybugpolkadot]

I had a lot of respect for the Queen, may she rest in peace… But now she has passed away I just feel like the UK Royal family/ establishment should just be abolished.

The younger generations are not the same standard as Queen Elizabeth was. There’s so many rumours and so much scandal in recent times. And what have these people really done in order to justify leeching of UK tax payer money to fund their privileged lifestyles?…

Am I the only one who thinks the members of the Royal family should give up their royal roles and get real jobs and earn their own living like anyone else in the country?

in 1999 the referendum in Australia was considered a mere formality

Remain won with 55% - the pollsters got it wrong, the commentators got it wrong, and no-one spotted the bedrock of support.

And they suspect that same bedrock doesn't play on social media

I don't think there is any appetite for change in UK despite the noisy that exists sporadically online.

About 1/3 of the world's nations are monarchies, including the Scandinavian ones which our current king has long been said to want to emulate.

(And before the stock response of brutal monarchs comes in - do you want me enumerate the equal shit list of non-monatch despots, warmongers and dictators?)

This too will pass. We now have a King who expressed a wish to live in his mistress's knickers but feared he'd be a Tampax. Now that mistress is Queen.

The Royal Family are going nowhere. This debate will rumble on for another 1000 years.

Outside the UK the royal family is among the first things people recognise about the UK. It's a boring old institution for British but a very appealing show of old traditions and royal culture for people around the world.

I guess it's a bit like a old piece of painting or furniture in the house that you're desperate to get rid of yet time after time anyone visiting would praise it endlessly and saying how wonderful it is.

I think it will be left there until our future generations decide that enough is enough good riddance!

I totally agree with your post but I'd go further in saying that we should have stronger press controls.

I think this sums it up for me

We didn’t have social media and mobile phones so that is why they were able to ‘escape’ relatively unscathed .
Things are different now. As I said previously, they will survive but will be severely weakened.

I totally agree.

I predicted the would wave of good feeling for the RF in the immediate aftermath of the queen’s death wouldn’t last. And here we are.

The more damage Harry can do to the reputation of that family of scroungers, the better, imo.

Lol When you put it like that

Are royals not allowed sex lives? Even ones where they say crude things to each other in private?

Revenge or telling the truth ?

Revenge or telling the truth ?

There are way too many inconsistencies for it to be the truth. It’s “their” truth, told for money.

I never used to be bothered either way, but then I never really gave it much thought and never really knew much about it all. But then with all the prime ministers and the Queen’s death, I was kind of faced with how involved the King is with the governing of the country, even if it’s just supposedly ceremonial. And I found myself surprisingly angry, about the whole system.

So my preference would be some kind of republic. Then the royal family could just be a very rich, historical, private family. I just do not agree with deferring to, or being governed by, anybody simply due to their birth.

I agree with the original post.

Queen Camilla who's so so lovely but shagged married men all over the place

Got me thinking - because she didn't, did she? The only ones we know about are her (notoriously unfaithful) first husband, and her second husband. And if there were others, wouldn't that be generally known?

Whereas Charles and Diana both had multiple lovers - an affair with Diana breaking up at least two marriages

Time for a serious downgrade.

I have never heard gossip about Camilla shagging ‘married men all over the place’.

Never heard of it for Camilla but you're right about Diana. She wasn't the perfect princess many make her out to be, she had affairs like KC. What makes her affairs okay and his not?! Can't judge him for it without judging her

And the ‘elected ‘ heads of state are not exactly trouble free. Look at thé US, and megalomaniac followed by a senile man with a corrupt family.

@Lampzade
As someone famously said, 'Recollections may vary'. The whole idea of justice in a court is both the defence and prosecution making their case. Harry and Meghan's documentary was made by them. There is no balance. As they themselves said, 'it is their truth' or their version of the truth. It is why trial by media is so dangerous. It is often completely one sided. I hope Justice never depends on whoever can produce the most glitzy documentary. At heart, most people know the truth generally lies somewhere in the middle. I am suspicious of people peddling their own truth. Look at all the right wing on line vloggers who supposedly tell their 'truth' to their followers. One sided truth telling us very dangerous

I agree but we’ll have to wait for the older generation to die out before we’d ever push abolition through in a referendum. Lots of support and approval still among older people, younger people not so much.

I doubt that any of them would be able to cope in a real job.

I agree with you OP and I never thought I would. I admired the Queen and felt proud that we had her. I don’t feel the same way about Charles and William I just cannot see being King. It seems so rediculous.

also re the scandals, yes there’s always been some how we never directed at the monarch by their own child! When a child of the monarch is attaching the institution you have a problem.

I also find William and Kate so bloody boring, plus when I saw them at the Queens funeral, walking alongside thier dc and not holding their hands, I felt so sad for them. Who else would expect their young child to walk into a cathedral, containing thousands of people, and not give them a bit of comfort? It really shocked me.

In Ireland we have Michael D Higgins as our President. He’s our figurehead and has no actual political powers but he is the one who signs the laws into place.

Similar to the Royal Family he has to remain neutral on politics and current affairs. Although he’s a very knowledgable man. But a wonderful thing about him is that he unites people. No matter what side of politics people fall in to, a lot of people really like him and think he’s a fantastic representative for our country.

People felt the same way about his predecessors Mary McAleese and Mary Robinson too.

I think you get into dangerous territory if the power solely lies with the government. I think they need someone “above”. Otherwise what’s stopping them from making up rules as they go along to remain in power? Whether or not that’s good for the people.

It’s not easy to overturn a Government.

It all needs slimming down, commonwealth countries need to be let go, although they could all still be part of a 'family of nations' and keep a mutually equal relationship. I do enjoy all the ceremony though. Our history is so long and so rich and the RF are the embodiment of it so I don't want to sink into the grey boredom of only having politicians. The RF are unique. They are colourful and interesting and they do a huge amount for charities. The only thing to replace them would be a bunch of vacuous celebrities promoting their latest movie or song.

The whole world recognises the British monarchy. Once Harry and Meghan finish the bloodletting exercise and concentrate on their humanitarian and charity work in America, the RF can just get in with the business of welcoming foreign leaders and charities. Camilla did a lovely visit to children with short life expectations (overshadowed by H&M) and no doubt brought a lot of money into the charity.

Accept the RF for what they do and forget all the drama from America.