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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

854 replies

Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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KaleToChristmas · 12/12/2022 22:10

I think William IS squeaky clean though. He's just so... boring.

DarkDarkNight · 12/12/2022 22:11

Loads of stuff. It’s not exactly unknown for the newspapers to be given another story if they don’t run what they have. William and Harry had the same set of friends and hung around together yet the stories were Harry taking drugs, Harry’s wild nights. Protect the heir at all costs.

It’s fairly commonplace. I’ve heard of it with record label and tv shows and recently the talent agency that represents lots of ITV stars - the papers have a damaging story, to get them not to print it they are offered another story, or an exclusive interview (in the star’s own words), or maybe they are threatened with losing access to all acts if they run it. It’s a nonsense to suggest the Royals and the media don’t have a similar symbiotic relationship.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 12/12/2022 22:13

Michellexxx · 12/12/2022 19:51

I reckon it’s probably about the tights and the bridesmaids..much less exciting than being let on.

That's only worth lying about if William is wearing the tights and shagging the bridesmaids.

KaleToChristmas · 12/12/2022 22:13

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Nasty comment.

wordler · 12/12/2022 22:15

Reindeersnooker · 12/12/2022 22:04

I do not believe William has had affairs. If there were no rumours of affairs it would be some kind of miracle and unprecedented in the crown prince. That doesn't mean he had the affairs. Kate is not that good an actress and he just doesn't seem the type - far too cautious.

I'm a big Will and Kate fan but I actually would be surprised if he hadn't had a few mini dalliances over the years - although not a full-blown emotionally invested affair like his father.

There was a small period about five years ago when it felt like something was off with them - I think Kate dropped out of a big event at the last minute and it was weird. But it looks to me the way they are right now is that if there was anything serious they've worked through it and are having a second flush of love and romance.

It could just be the ups and downs of a long-term relationship also rather than infidelity specifically. They are just coming out of the weeds of the baby years which, even with help, take a lot of emotional energy away from the main relationship. They've started flirting with each other in public again - and I don't think they are good enough actors to fake that all the time.

Reindeersnooker · 12/12/2022 22:15

Zoom101 · 12/12/2022 22:07

@LadySpencer123 I find your comment regarding ‘a ginger’ extremely offensive, implying that they are not deserving of being with an attractive person.

No, I don’t have red hair but my gorgeous son does.

I find it really offensive too! And hard of thinking. Look at Jamie from Outlander.

stuntbubbles · 12/12/2022 22:17

Harry makes the “a ginger” landing a woman “as beautiful” as Meghan comment himself in the programme! I assumed that poster was referencing him in his own words.

Reindeersnooker · 12/12/2022 22:17

wordler · 12/12/2022 22:15

I'm a big Will and Kate fan but I actually would be surprised if he hadn't had a few mini dalliances over the years - although not a full-blown emotionally invested affair like his father.

There was a small period about five years ago when it felt like something was off with them - I think Kate dropped out of a big event at the last minute and it was weird. But it looks to me the way they are right now is that if there was anything serious they've worked through it and are having a second flush of love and romance.

It could just be the ups and downs of a long-term relationship also rather than infidelity specifically. They are just coming out of the weeds of the baby years which, even with help, take a lot of emotional energy away from the main relationship. They've started flirting with each other in public again - and I don't think they are good enough actors to fake that all the time.

But most men don't have affairs. Why should he?

Jennybeans401 · 12/12/2022 22:17

I am deeply envious of people with red hair, I would love to have red hair.

Even if I dye mine it wouldn't stay in for long.

Sagharbor · 12/12/2022 22:20

Guitarbar · 12/12/2022 20:29

They're so hypocritical. They harp on about how disgraceful the press are (which is true tbf) and how the media intrusion made them feel unsafe, yet are inviting speculation and increased press interest to his brothers family, including 3 young children because Harry is having a tantrum because he didn't get his own way. Why don't they focus on their story instead of dragging his family. I'm sure his mum would be ashamed.

It is a clip. We do not know what Harry is going to say. This happened last week after people watched a clip and went off the rails without having watched the docuseries.

I think Harry is probably referring to a formative time, when they were younger and Harry had to be painted as the bad boy to William's good boy persona.

People tend to forget that these are brothers. We are just the public on the sidelines.

GalwayShawl · 12/12/2022 22:21

stuntbubbles · 12/12/2022 22:17

Harry makes the “a ginger” landing a woman “as beautiful” as Meghan comment himself in the programme! I assumed that poster was referencing him in his own words.

Yeah, really not a fan of that especially as my own beautiful red head was watching it with me and heard that.

Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 22:22

KaleToChristmas · 12/12/2022 22:10

I think William IS squeaky clean though. He's just so... boring.

I understand he is now, he is very formal, stuffy, proper in real life aapparently

I think he had some messing around when he was growing up,getting drunk etc which I reckon was covered up to a certain extent, but of course rhe press didn’t do that for harry , I’m guessing he was accused of something by the media , which was false, but none of the papers corrected it.

so Netflix have confirmed it’s the media being discussed, so he’s saying they lied to protect William, which is likely true, and then harry and Meghan were accused of something and no one corrected it.

for William it’s going to be something like when he landed his helicopter in Kate’s garden and they all pretended it was authorised and part of a training exercise

Harry said they didn’t tell the truth to protect us, plural, so it’s something about him and Meghan that he says is false and the media didn’t correct even though they knew it was false. Maybe the tights incident,or the tiara one.

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 12/12/2022 22:22

wordler · 12/12/2022 21:32

All public figures have some sort of relationship with the press - it's a weird relationship where both sides are trying to get the upper hand on the other. The only time the mainstream press agree to 'hold back' news is for serious stuff like delaying death announcements until all the family members know. Or not leaking serious illness when being given a 'heads up' to get an obit ready. Or if there is something that affects national security / or a criminal case.

There can be a little quid pro quo if a journalist is digging around a story but doesn't really have something concrete then the PR for the public figure might try to distract with an interesting alternative to get them off the scent. But journalists aren't stupid, they know when they are being handed a story as a distraction - just makes them pretend to put something on the back burner to circle back to later.

If there was any possible way to prove that William is or has previously cheated on Kate there's nothing the RF could offer a tabloid on Harry or Meghan or another member of the family not to print that story - it would be front page news for weeks - so much potential for sad pictures of Kate, angry pictures of Kate, stressed pictures of Ma and Pa Middleton etc etc.

Not really. They knew about Saville and don't publish. They are part of the problem and will keep on side snd play the rules of the game they also know well.

yoyy · 12/12/2022 22:24

Good point re Savile, forgot about him.

Peggingsoundsgross · 12/12/2022 22:24

Nasty comment about a *Ginger wtf

Liorae · 12/12/2022 22:24

Reindeersnooker · 12/12/2022 22:17

But most men don't have affairs. Why should he?

If you were to judge by Mumsnet all men have numerous affairs, but no women do.

Sagharbor · 12/12/2022 22:27

It is just a short clip. We do not know what Harry is going to say. This happened last week after people watched a clip and went off the rails without having watched the docuseries.

I think Harry is probably referring to a formative time, when they were younger and Harry had to be painted as the bad boy to William's good boy persona.

People tend to forget that these are brothers. We are just the public on the sidelines. Without a clue.

wordler · 12/12/2022 22:27

@Reindeersnooker
But most men don't have affairs. Why should he?

I think a lot of men would say in response to that "because he can" - he has the money, resources, and perceived power to make it very easy. Like a lot of rich and powerful men (and some women)

Also, there are people who think of it in the 'french way' - little liasions which are separate from 'the family'.

I think I'm a lot more cynical than you about 'most men' - I think a lot would do what they can get away with - especially 10+ years into a relationship. And there are plenty of married women who do the same.

It doesn't really bother me as long as they don't start lecturing other people on family values like the Tory MPs do before they get caught.

Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 22:28

I think harry is a good looking man,I don’t understand rhe posters juvenile offensive comment on his hair colour.

plus he’s multi millionaire prince harry the bloke’s had women chucking themselves at him since he hit puberty for gods sake.

Seaside1972 · 12/12/2022 22:28

It was the Rose Banbury affair. The story that Meghan made Kate cry at the dress fitting was the other way around. Kate was very upset about the affair and apologised to Meghan immediately after. Press continued to attack Meghan and it just benefited Will and Kate for the attention to be off them.

Cough Pegging cough

Genevieva · 12/12/2022 22:28

Get Netflix and watch if you want to find out, but I don't believe the affair gossip. Either they will tell you very explicitly what the lie was, or they won't. If the latter it is reasonable to assume it is made up nonsense to insinuate a basis for their envy of William and Catherine.

The only gossip relating to Rose is that she married a much older man that many women had wanted to pin down, but none had succeeded. He is the one with a history of infidelity, not her. It took growing old enough for that to be a less enticing lifestyle (and a pregnancy with a male heir) for him to finally do the right thing by a woman in his life. Rose is a friend of Catherine's and both women are married to the man they wanted to marry.

Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 22:29

wordler · 12/12/2022 22:27

@Reindeersnooker
But most men don't have affairs. Why should he?

I think a lot of men would say in response to that "because he can" - he has the money, resources, and perceived power to make it very easy. Like a lot of rich and powerful men (and some women)

Also, there are people who think of it in the 'french way' - little liasions which are separate from 'the family'.

I think I'm a lot more cynical than you about 'most men' - I think a lot would do what they can get away with - especially 10+ years into a relationship. And there are plenty of married women who do the same.

It doesn't really bother me as long as they don't start lecturing other people on family values like the Tory MPs do before they get caught.

You do grasp that for every straight bloke who has an affair there is a woman involved?

wordler · 12/12/2022 22:29

It would be great plot twist if in years to come we found out that it was Rose and Catherine who were having the great love affair.

EconomyClassRockstar · 12/12/2022 22:30

I swear I watched a completely different show to everyone else! I found them incredibly likable as did everyone I've spoken to about it in rl. But we're not UK based so less exposed to a British media that is exploding in fury.

wordler · 12/12/2022 22:31

Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 22:29

You do grasp that for every straight bloke who has an affair there is a woman involved?

Which is why I specifically mentioned women in my post - there are definitely a lot of married women having affairs too - it can't be all conniving single colleagues in their 20s as implied by MN stats.