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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

854 replies

Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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Jazz12 · 12/12/2022 20:42

EdgeOfACoin · 12/12/2022 20:07

Pippa named her daughter Rose, and Pippa appears to be close to the Princess of Wales.

It would be a strange choice of name if William was indeed cheating on his wife with a woman named Rose.

I'm inclined to believe it is to do with the bridesmaids' tights. It isn't a particularly edifying story, regardless of who made whom cry. I think Meghan was unrealistic to think that the Royal Family would order the press to issue a 'correction' over such a silly story.

But then, maybe there is something more interesting behind the headline.

THIS !

blubberyboo · 12/12/2022 20:42

Just on the subject of Pippa, I’ve always noticed how much she looks like Meghan. I believe Harry was always jealous of William having Catherine and developed his type around the Middleton sisters … in looks anyway.

fed up with the lies and the the insinuations. No matter what they say about William I bet it wasn’t that he dressed up as a Nazi or ignored his father after a major operation. Or didn’t invite a favourite niece to their wedding.

they are deflecting from their own nastiness

PeekAtYou · 12/12/2022 20:43

I think it will be the tights story as people like Tom Bowers have resurrected it after the Oprah interview. Don't think pegging will be mentioned 😂

ancientgran · 12/12/2022 20:43

EdgeOfACoin · 12/12/2022 20:07

Pippa named her daughter Rose, and Pippa appears to be close to the Princess of Wales.

It would be a strange choice of name if William was indeed cheating on his wife with a woman named Rose.

I'm inclined to believe it is to do with the bridesmaids' tights. It isn't a particularly edifying story, regardless of who made whom cry. I think Meghan was unrealistic to think that the Royal Family would order the press to issue a 'correction' over such a silly story.

But then, maybe there is something more interesting behind the headline.

I always thought it was a bit of a daft story. Who cried? Who cares but it is entirely possible they both had a cry, according to MM Kate apologised maybe MM should have as well and put the whole thing to bed.

StickyCricket · 12/12/2022 20:43

Itssooooocold · 12/12/2022 20:41

Meghan didn't want who not to wear tights?

Meg wanted bridesmaids to be bare legged. Kate mentioned protocol was tights in church, plus was worried about Charlotte’s shoes rubbing on bare feet.

MichelleScarn · 12/12/2022 20:44

stuntbubbles · 12/12/2022 20:38

Yes! I was rooting for them and absolutely here for gossip and drama but it’s been desperately dull so far and if it’s just the flower girl dress story AGAIN I’ll be raging – I want proper dish-the-dirt stuff, I want tea, I want receipts! I want to picture Kate raging round the palace and some proper old-school tabloid scandal headlines!

It reminds me of that 'oh don't look at me I'm shy....' sketch show...
'Oh I have something outtageous to tell you, tune in.... 4 hrs later... oh I can't POSSIBLY actually tell you'

starrynight21 · 12/12/2022 20:47

CharityShopChic · 12/12/2022 20:07

You really think they are going to lay it out specifically? Their MO is to make vague accusations and let everyone speculate.

^This. It's their M.O. And it's working, since everyone is speculating .

CourtneeLuv · 12/12/2022 20:48

MichelleScarn · 12/12/2022 20:44

It reminds me of that 'oh don't look at me I'm shy....' sketch show...
'Oh I have something outtageous to tell you, tune in.... 4 hrs later... oh I can't POSSIBLY actually tell you'

Exactly. They are so full of shit. Boring shit.

lunar1 · 12/12/2022 20:50

There is no way they will specify, they get much more mileage being vague. It's just like the racism accusation where everyone is under suspicion because they don't give and definitive details.

HardRock · 12/12/2022 20:50

BedTaker · 12/12/2022 20:00

It could be anything couldn't it? Maybe he got caught drink driving or something years ago, maybe he didn't pass his exams to graduate St Andrews? My guess is that Harry won't actually spill the beans, he will just say enough to get everyone speculating and assuming it's the affair thing.

A bit like when Meghan told Oprah about the 'family member' who asked about Archies skin colour, but left it wide open to speculation about who it was.

I doubt it’s something as juicy as the affair. More likely something Harry can prove too, because he and Meghan will be aware that people will be doubting them.

My guess is it was when William had Covid in April 2020 and it was kept from the public until 6 or 7 months later.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-54774942.amp

Lampshadered · 12/12/2022 20:52

*Pippa named her daughter Rose, and Pippa appears to be close to the Princess of Wales.

It would be a strange choice of name if William was indeed cheating on his wife with a woman named Rose*

It would be a strange choice but Kimberley Walsh is really close to Cheryl and she named one of her kids Cole (after Cheryl had divorced Ashley) so who knows!

stuntbubbles · 12/12/2022 20:53

Yes, it’ll be something innocuous and his point will be that it’s not the lie about Wills that’s important, it’s that the palace was willing to hang Harry out to dry and never lie for him. The trailer beefs it up and the episodes won’t deliver: just like volume 1. Netflix have done them like a kipper.

CheshireCat1 · 12/12/2022 20:54

School gate chatter.

AndEverWhoKnew · 12/12/2022 20:55

To Will's DCs about Santa existing. Xmas Grin

Pineapplesalad · 12/12/2022 20:59

StickyCricket · 12/12/2022 20:43

Meg wanted bridesmaids to be bare legged. Kate mentioned protocol was tights in church, plus was worried about Charlotte’s shoes rubbing on bare feet.

Ah yes, thank you ☺️

Livelovebehappy · 12/12/2022 21:00

To be honest Harry could spin whatever lies he wants, and the Royal Family can’t respond. Wonder how he’ll earn his money once there are no more stories to sell on his family?

Pineapplesalad · 12/12/2022 21:01

Yes, let them burn themselves out and hopefully disappear. The RF have weathered worse.

I don't for one minute believe William has had an affair, no way they would look at each other the way they do if he'd been unfaithful

Joystir59 · 12/12/2022 21:02

Who is alleged to peg whom?

Rinoachicken · 12/12/2022 21:02

Thing is, if W had an affair or not doesn’t really matter. It’s between him and Kate. It’s NOT Harry’s secret to share.

If there was an affair - since they are still very much together and presenting as a happily married couple - then Kate has clearly made her choice and they have moved on from it. That’s her choice to make and is nobodies business except hers and Williams.

If there wasn’t an affair - a re-hashing of all the speculation will do nothing but cause distress.

Either way, like I said, it’s NOT Harry’s story to tell. He should stick to telling HIS ‘truth’ and stop crossing into other people’s lives.

He is doing the very thing he’s been protesting about, he’s no better than the tabloids at this point - saying just enough ‘nudge nudge wink wink’ but not enough to get him in trouble with the lawyers.

Regardless of the affair being true or not - What will this do other than create masses of media speculation around his brothers family? - a brother he was once so close to, and a SIL he was said was like a sister, and their young children). It will cause them deep emotional distress (their MH apparently is not important to Harry, only Harry’s MH is important to Harry - and for what? Why?

Why would you set out to deliberately try and destroy or harm people you supposedly love?

stuntbubbles · 12/12/2022 21:02

StickyCricket · 12/12/2022 20:43

Meg wanted bridesmaids to be bare legged. Kate mentioned protocol was tights in church, plus was worried about Charlotte’s shoes rubbing on bare feet.

I yearn for the days of tampongate and squidgygate and nazigate and Di’s revenge dress and big Panorama eyes – tightsgate is just not up to scratch, gossip-wise.

Joystir59 · 12/12/2022 21:03

Georgeskitchen · 12/12/2022 20:39

Apparently protocol demands little girls wear tights at weddings but Meghan didn't want her to wear tights. Kate made Meghan cry allegedly

Thank you for the elucidation

wordler · 12/12/2022 21:03

There's no way it will be about an affair unless Harry has actual video /photographic evidence that proves it without the possibility of doubt. Too vague 'generic affairs' and William can sue for libel. Specific without actual evidence - then there are two parties who can sue for libel - William and whoever is named as affair partner.

And they also have to pass the level of 'legitimate public interest' in terms of breaching both parties' right to privacy. You perhaps could argue that the moral life and behaviour of the future head of the Church of England is legitimate public interest but now with a King who we know had an affair with a married woman and he's being accepted as the monarch, then who really needs to know about what this heir has going on in his behind closed door bedroom activities.

It's more likely to be about their teen and 20s when both of them were partying hard but Harry was the one who was always getting caught and being exposed in the press. Although his argument that they were using him to distract from William is a little hard to swallow when a lot of the worse headlines comes from things Harry did himself and got photographed doing it - Nazi costume, naked pool party in LA, calling his fellow soldiers by racist terms. Maybe William was doing worse things behind the scenes but there's no way the press wouldn't have used pictures of him doing the things Harry did for any reason.

It's going to be interesting to hear Harry's interpretation of these events.

whynotwhatknot · 12/12/2022 21:04

jesus theyre really hanging everyting on a juicy bit of gossip that probably isnt

desperate springs to mind

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 12/12/2022 21:04

I think the implications is that they h and m got thrown under the bus to protect k and w?

What relevance has any lie got unless it's impacting h and m?

Ivyonafence · 12/12/2022 21:05

Rinoachicken · 12/12/2022 21:02

Thing is, if W had an affair or not doesn’t really matter. It’s between him and Kate. It’s NOT Harry’s secret to share.

If there was an affair - since they are still very much together and presenting as a happily married couple - then Kate has clearly made her choice and they have moved on from it. That’s her choice to make and is nobodies business except hers and Williams.

If there wasn’t an affair - a re-hashing of all the speculation will do nothing but cause distress.

Either way, like I said, it’s NOT Harry’s story to tell. He should stick to telling HIS ‘truth’ and stop crossing into other people’s lives.

He is doing the very thing he’s been protesting about, he’s no better than the tabloids at this point - saying just enough ‘nudge nudge wink wink’ but not enough to get him in trouble with the lawyers.

Regardless of the affair being true or not - What will this do other than create masses of media speculation around his brothers family? - a brother he was once so close to, and a SIL he was said was like a sister, and their young children). It will cause them deep emotional distress (their MH apparently is not important to Harry, only Harry’s MH is important to Harry - and for what? Why?

Why would you set out to deliberately try and destroy or harm people you supposedly love?

I don't know. He's the future head of the Church of England. If he cheated on his wife there's arguably public interest in making that known.

They can't have it both ways. If they want the title and the position that elevates them above the average person, then don't they also have to uphold a higher standard?

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