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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

854 replies

Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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MarshaMelrose · 14/12/2022 10:11

CathyorClaire · 14/12/2022 10:03

What happened with the George photos? I missed that

There were unsubstantiated rumours she'd been caught about to snap photos of George on her phone.

Whole thing does seem highly unlikely though.

I did think it would have been rude of her and she doesn't seem rude, so I was disinclined to believe it before. But now we've seen her filming herself everywhere, I'm thinking it could very well be true.

jac67 · 14/12/2022 10:41

Sorry but this is exactly what thoose 2 want, stiring the pot to put people on their side and get more attention.

HaveYouSeenNancy · 14/12/2022 10:43

The rumour was that H & M were visiting W & C in Norfolk, M had excused herself to use the bathroom and a member of staff found her taking photos in George's bedroom. It was before they were married and I didn't believe it because discretion is so important to royals, and I didn't think H would marry her if she'd done that. I believe it now, due to the Netflix doc.

AutumnCrow · 14/12/2022 10:45

The bill being brought to parliament about 'stripping titles' is a private members' bill being brought by Bob Seeley MP (IoW) and it is not thought it will succeed without government backing. So it's just a bit of publicity really, as the government won't commit to supporting this particular bill.

Keir Starmer was lukewarm about it so I doubt many or any Labour MPs will turn up in numbers, and they might abstain anyway. They don't like mixing royal stuff and politics.

I know people want to respond to Harry and his speculations; but they also don't want to play into his escalating sense of grievance. It's a tricky one. How does a state deal with a loose cannon who is the son of a hereditary head of state?

AutumnCrow · 14/12/2022 10:57

ganachee · 14/12/2022 05:21

They've never said anything about a quiet life

In January 2020 in a speech at a charity event just before Harry left the U.K. he said he was taking a step back into what he hoped would be a more ‘peaceful life.’

Harry’s words quoted in a Reuters article at that time:

“Our hope was to continue serving the queen, the Commonwealth and my military associations without public funding. Sadly that wasn’t possible,” the prince, the sixth-in-line to the throne, said.

“I’ve accepted this knowing it doesn’t change who I am, or how committed I am. But I hope that helps you understand what it had come to, that I would step back from all I have ever known to take a step forward into what I hope can be a more peaceful life.”

www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-royals-harry-idUSKBN1ZI0TF

I thought this was a really interesting post, @ganachee and I'm pleased that you found that direct quote. I know that memories become faded; but yes, wanting 'a more peaceful life' is on record there.

“Our hope was to continue serving the queen, the Commonwealth and my military associations without public funding. Sadly that wasn’t possible" [Harry said]

That's the real kicker, isn't it? Effectively they wanted to become wealthy in North America, very wealthy in fact, and offer their services to ER as celebrities rather than royals. All royal protocols would have been up in the air and the queen said no thank you, we don't allow celebrities to officially represent the royal family and the royal name. You are either in or out.

queenofarles · 14/12/2022 11:01

The rumour was that H & M were visiting W & C in Norfolk, M had excused herself to use the bathroom and a member of staff found her taking photos in George's bedroom. I’ve never heard that , that can’t be true 😵‍💫.

nannykatherine · 14/12/2022 11:18

bakalava · 12/12/2022 20:00

I won't play into their hands. They want you to watch it so you can find out the answer but it's just not that intriguing. One bald brother selling out another one. Quite frankly, warring pairs of brothers are as old as time as evidenced in Bible stories and Roman legends.

Wars of the roses comes to mind .. let’s see in a couple of decades what happens with the cousins !! 🤔

MarshaMelrose · 14/12/2022 11:32

queenofarles · 14/12/2022 11:01

The rumour was that H & M were visiting W & C in Norfolk, M had excused herself to use the bathroom and a member of staff found her taking photos in George's bedroom. I’ve never heard that , that can’t be true 😵‍💫.

It was indeed a rumour but it came from a blind gossip site, so I wouldn't take it as gospel. 😂 It does seem a bit more believable now that we know she videos herself all the time.
Same gossip site, there was a rumour that the RF were treating her with kid gloves and being cautious around her because they discovered that she was keeping a diary, documenting what they were all saying. At the time I thought that was a bit innocuous because lots of people keep diaries. But now, of course, that looks a bit more suspicious. And, of course, it might be a video diary with recordings. Although I really don't think she'd secretly record people.

vera99 · 14/12/2022 12:22

Tattle Life which I picked up from MN has a no holds barred toxic anti HM diatribe which paints them as pure evil. We live in a truly MAD world these days sadly.

KitBumbleB · 14/12/2022 12:24

Journalist Nigel Baker (among others) is singing like a canary....

queenofarles · 14/12/2022 12:25

Same gossip site, there was a rumour that the RF were treating her with kid gloves and being cautious around her because they discovered that she was keeping a diary, documenting what they were all saying

I think MM said she kept a diary , and when they left they started video recording , I do think a lot of what’s on their doc is re-enactment which I find hilarious.
its like a clash of two worlds , old and new, what Meghan must have seen as totally normal taking selfies and photos of everything including other peoples houses , others might have seen it as vulgar and only something people who are new to all of this do, although I must admit that Meghan seems very posed and refined From the very start , so any looks of eye rolling / digs to her behaviour must have hurt her very badly and she seems like someone who doesn’t take rejection lightly,

Badger1970 · 14/12/2022 12:25

I disagree, I've found the Tattle threads to be really well researched as well as a mix of personal opinion. Far from toxic.

eastegg · 14/12/2022 12:27

MakeItADouble2 · 12/12/2022 20:27

This thread will be pulled because all media outlets have had gagging orders re Williams affair. Top law firm was involved in the superinjunction. Known across media

😂
’There’s a superinjunction to stop us all talking about William’s affair!’.

Well that was a waste of money wasn’t it?

vera99 · 14/12/2022 12:30

Not one person sticks up for them on tattle and the racism is off the scale. Megan's mum comes under particular criticism with allegations that she has been in prison ffs.

Janieread · 14/12/2022 12:31

eastegg · 14/12/2022 12:27

😂
’There’s a superinjunction to stop us all talking about William’s affair!’.

Well that was a waste of money wasn’t it?

You'd think they'd have noticed before now, what with posters from both sides paid to be on here 24/7

vera99 · 14/12/2022 12:33

I will work for the highest payer - just saying PM me bitcoin preferred.😂

Misty333 · 14/12/2022 13:01

Don’t you think in this day and age with all our technology if he was having an affair it would not have come out. Some people just can’t except they are happy.

pelargoniums · 14/12/2022 13:07

Misty333 · 14/12/2022 13:01

Don’t you think in this day and age with all our technology if he was having an affair it would not have come out. Some people just can’t except they are happy.

What, like someone put an air tag on the dildo?

TheKeatingFive · 14/12/2022 13:08

Don’t you think in this day and age with all our technology if he was having an affair it would not have come out.

I think the point is it has come out, but there's an injunction. There's also a devils pact with the press to go easy.

EdgeOfACoin · 14/12/2022 13:21

So a superinjunction would be operative only in the UK, as far as I'm aware.

I'm sure other countries would be only too happy to publish all of the available evidence.

Please could somebody link to a non-UK-based credible source which sets out the full details of William's alleged affair - preferably an English language version.

In the absence of a reliable source with some kind of credible evidence, I'm not going to put too much weight on these rumours.

Reindeersnooker · 14/12/2022 13:22

TheKeatingFive · 14/12/2022 13:08

Don’t you think in this day and age with all our technology if he was having an affair it would not have come out.

I think the point is it has come out, but there's an injunction. There's also a devils pact with the press to go easy.

What's the evidence that it has come out?

EndlessRain1 · 14/12/2022 13:24

A little late to the thread but:

  1. I thought the reference was to the Media not the palace.

  2. I think M&H probably were treated badly and will be happier out of that life. Their of them seem suited to it (which most people wouldn't be) and it's probably horrible to be forced to fit in with all those rules and heiracies. I couldn't do it.

  3. that said, they have absolutely not left gracefully. They seem to think that they are somehow getting truth and justice, but it just comes across as bitterness and revenge.I also struggle with their "poor me" routine given their privilege (Megan's "noone asks how I am" moan in an interview about their trip to Africa I found particularly poorly judged)

  4. I wouldn't be surpised if Wills had an affair, I don't think he is as unattractive as people on this thread make out but in any case he has money and status and I imagine some charm. Lots of more disgusting men have had sex based on less.

  5. I am also tired of the hits and insinuations. If you know something say it, otherwise it's just a smear campaign.

queenofarles · 14/12/2022 13:25

think the point is it has come out, but there's an injunction. so why can’t I read about it in France, Italy , Singapore , the US? Why can’t my friends in these countries read about these stories too?

and if someone manages to find these juicy stories why can’t they take screenshots and upload them on a blog , substack , tiktok ?

we still have freedom of speech and all that .

Bluekerfuffle · 14/12/2022 13:30

It’s not come out, just rumours from chat sites, same as the rumour about Meghan’s mum having been in prison. Zero credibility.

Janieread · 14/12/2022 13:41

Maybe Wills is just happily married and far too busy to have an affair?

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