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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

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Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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SirMingeALot · 13/12/2022 17:49

finished31 · 13/12/2022 17:44

I wonder if it's that bloke in Australia who claims to be Charles & Camila love child. He would be next in line to the thrown if proven.

That would be amazeballs. I would absolutely watch it if they said that.

PinkParfait · 13/12/2022 17:51

I don't doubt that Harry and Meghan have dirt on the RF, but I reckon the RF have just as much dirt on H&M too, so I doubt Harry will drop any affair bombshells. They'll be very vague and avoid mentioning any names, as they always do, to maximise discussion.

SerenaTee · 13/12/2022 17:55

piedbeauty · 13/12/2022 08:36

If all this fuss really is over the BM dress, then H&M should lose any remaining credibility they have. When planning a wedding, emotions are high and people fall out. All the time. Normal people then get over it and move on. But H&M seem to have taken carrying a grudge to an Olympic level.

I agree with this, plus Kate was only a few weeks post-birth I think so emotions even more heightened.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/12/2022 17:56

I wonder if it's that bloke in Australia who claims to be Charles & Camila love child. He would be next in line to the thrown if proven.

No he wouldn't. Born out of wedlock can't inherit the throne.

OP, you're assuming, of course, that there WAS a lie told to protect PW. We only have Harry saying that there was.

PicturesOfDogs · 13/12/2022 17:59

Wasn’t Meghan feeding stories to the press about Kate before tightsgate though?

There was that Canadian report that Kate had snubbed Meghan because she didn’t invite her shopping?

It all sounds like a massive game of tit-for-tat, getting more dramatic by the day

bordersbitch · 13/12/2022 17:59

I think its about how William used to smoke dope in the basement of Highgrove when Harry did - when they were teenagers and Harry got sent off to rehab and William was smacked and told not to do it again and it was all hushed up! Old H is is some desperate need of counselling/therapy

Lykia · 13/12/2022 18:00

Catintinsel · 13/12/2022 15:36

I just find that woman ridiculous. She is very beautiful and her appearance has got her everywhere. Just stop whinging. My children are mixed-race Indian / European. One of them is very fair with green eyes and, like MM, you would never know she was mixed-race. For her to go and stand among a community of women in India who live in poverty and announce, "I am one of you..." would be extremely disingenuous. Yet this is what MM did in the township in South Africa. What a joke she is. How can she possibly be so deluded as to think she has experienced racism like the average black woman. She has no clue. She must be unhinged.

The pair of them are so narcissistic it's almost unreal. The way the whole 'documentary' is edited is almost nauseating. I'm no special fan of any of the royals, but ffs.

⬆️⬆️⬆️ this.

My children don't look mixed at all. A bit like Emma Bunton's children. I'm mixed race.

I tick the mixed race box on forms for them but they present as white and people would only know they were mixed race if they saw them with me.

Also, before they were born me, my family and friends speculated what colour they would be. We talked about it in shades of coffee.

And lastly I too didn't realise Meghan was mixed race. I thought she was Hispanic. She is very beautiful btw.

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Talia99 · 13/12/2022 18:06

SerenaTee · 13/12/2022 17:55

I agree with this, plus Kate was only a few weeks post-birth I think so emotions even more heightened.

The issue wasn’t what happened, it’s the fact that the press repeated the ‘official’ version of events over and over and over again for literally years to push the ‘saintly Kate, sinner Meghan’ narrative and KP did nothing to stop them.

If it had been a private fall out, quickly resolved, I’m sure H & M would have got over it. It’s hard to get over something that is still being used against you years later.

bakalava · 13/12/2022 18:07

bordersbitch · 13/12/2022 17:59

I think its about how William used to smoke dope in the basement of Highgrove when Harry did - when they were teenagers and Harry got sent off to rehab and William was smacked and told not to do it again and it was all hushed up! Old H is is some desperate need of counselling/therapy

I don't think Meghan would want anybody to dwell on that category of criticism. Her first wedding to Trevor Engleson included bags of the strongest stuff as wedding favours for all the guests and her step brother ran a related business.

PinkTonic · 13/12/2022 18:09

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/12/2022 17:56

I wonder if it's that bloke in Australia who claims to be Charles & Camila love child. He would be next in line to the thrown if proven.

No he wouldn't. Born out of wedlock can't inherit the throne.

OP, you're assuming, of course, that there WAS a lie told to protect PW. We only have Harry saying that there was.

It can’t have been a very big lie can it, even if there was one. Nothing has been said about H that’s ruined his reputation beyond repair, so we must be talking about trivia. So petty.

AutumnCrow · 13/12/2022 18:11

The trouble with Harry introducing speculation is that yes there will indeed be speculation. Very widespread speculation. Any people start looking in nooks and crannies that were better left alone in the dust.

PinkParfait · 13/12/2022 18:11

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 18:06

The issue wasn’t what happened, it’s the fact that the press repeated the ‘official’ version of events over and over and over again for literally years to push the ‘saintly Kate, sinner Meghan’ narrative and KP did nothing to stop them.

If it had been a private fall out, quickly resolved, I’m sure H & M would have got over it. It’s hard to get over something that is still being used against you years later.

I agree.

It was the "Meghan made Kate cry" version of events that was released in the press first. Meaning Kate and William's side deliberately made up a lie about Meghan to leak to the press.

bordersbitch · 13/12/2022 18:13

but Meghan did make Kate cry!

sabbii · 13/12/2022 18:14

William is chocolate digestive kinda guy?

derxa · 13/12/2022 18:16

Whatever Harry says his relationship with his birth family is over. Is it worth it Harry? People salivating over gossip on here is great entertainment for them but gossip can be immensely damaging whether true or not.

TheKeatingFive · 13/12/2022 18:17

but Meghan did make Kate cry!

Were you there? 😵

3peassuit · 13/12/2022 18:24

It’s tights, William smoking the odd joint as a teenager or something equally banal.

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 18:26

bordersbitch · 13/12/2022 18:13

but Meghan did make Kate cry!

And the proof of that is? Meghan says she didn’t, it was the other way around Kate hasn’t said anything and there has been no leaks by ‘sources’ (which the RF use to get their version of events out there). Tom Bowers apparently says she did but his book is very anti- Meghan and he doesn’t appear to have named sources. In addition, a number of people featured and quoted in his book have said he lied about what they said (Sam Kashner, Kristen Meiszner).

He really isn’t a reliable source.

ReformedWaywardTeen · 13/12/2022 18:28

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 12/12/2022 20:17

So hard to imagine William having an affair.
He's so drippy and unmasculine.

Apparently he took multiple helicopter trips during lockdown to see a certain woman.

There is also the suggestion that he likes a particular thing done to him which apparently Kate refuses to do. Even Ryan Air took the piss out of the rumour if you look on twitter

bordersbitch · 13/12/2022 18:31

I can't believe even Harry would bring in William and his alleged affair! Im guessing its something much less .....

Doggate1 · 13/12/2022 18:35

Probs … tightsgate ! I mean who puts young girls with dresses without tights! Utter madness. Having worked as a primary school I fully understand why tights would have been requested. Maybe they compromised on cycling shorts underneath 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

stuntbubbles · 13/12/2022 18:36

Doggate1 · 13/12/2022 18:35

Probs … tightsgate ! I mean who puts young girls with dresses without tights! Utter madness. Having worked as a primary school I fully understand why tights would have been requested. Maybe they compromised on cycling shorts underneath 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

…lots of people? “Utter madness” being applied with a sweeping brush and a generous hand, here.

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 13/12/2022 18:39

H&M are proven liars and fantasists, so it won't be true. There is absolutely no way Kate would stay in that marriage if she were unhappy. People would be so disappointed in William if he were messing her about after the Charles and Diana debacle. It's not like she'd need to stay for the the 'lifestyle' either. Her family are minted, she'd have the public onside, so why would she? I don't buy that she's desperate to be Queen Consort either. If H&M insinuate this they are total twats IMO, because of the impact it will have on the Cambridge Dcs

joles12 · 13/12/2022 18:41

asblindasabat · 12/12/2022 20:11

When they talk about the ‘royal family’ are they actually referring to his relatives? I.e. King Charles, Prince William, Queen Elizabeth etc? Or do
they mean the institution and its staff?

Great question! The Royal Household comprises c 1500 plus members of staff - they have an HR dept etc - larger than most companies - H & M talk about this mystical “they” - with no clarity and it ll lacks any real credibility - no facts to back it up and most of it sounds quite implausible

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