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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

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Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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Catintinsel · 13/12/2022 15:36

I just find that woman ridiculous. She is very beautiful and her appearance has got her everywhere. Just stop whinging. My children are mixed-race Indian / European. One of them is very fair with green eyes and, like MM, you would never know she was mixed-race. For her to go and stand among a community of women in India who live in poverty and announce, "I am one of you..." would be extremely disingenuous. Yet this is what MM did in the township in South Africa. What a joke she is. How can she possibly be so deluded as to think she has experienced racism like the average black woman. She has no clue. She must be unhinged.

The pair of them are so narcissistic it's almost unreal. The way the whole 'documentary' is edited is almost nauseating. I'm no special fan of any of the royals, but ffs.

Reindeersnooker · 13/12/2022 16:24

I don't think she's very beautiful. The light, angle and make up has to be right. She's very pretty but not a great beauty - they look wonderful almost regardless.

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 16:27

RatherBeRiding · 13/12/2022 15:16

I strongly feel that a hell of a lot more covering up has been done for that useless spare than was ever done, if at all, for William. Just more lies and half-truths from the bitter ex-Royals. Sadly for them it's all pointless anyway. Its a constitutional monarchy and won't be going anywhere anytime soon so they'd better get used to the fact that once W&K are on the throne - they are TOAST.

Well, no. The whole point of them becoming financially independent is so William has no power over them.

I’m glad you agree he would use his position against them, though. It’s nice to know other people see William can be vindictive and happy to throw Harry under the bus when it suits him (see Easy Jet pictures when H & M were being criticised for using a private jet).

SirMingeALot · 13/12/2022 16:34

Ch3wylemon · 13/12/2022 13:49

Did Wills inhale? Did Kate have a lapse of concentration and have bad-hair half hour? Did Harry once do better than Wills in an exam probably not.

The tantrums are pointless. KC is 74 he will reign for perhaps 10 or 15 years and then it's the Catherine & William show. Sure M&H can keep throwing grenades, but every time they do their credibility falls. Even if they lob truths in with their jealous shrapnel it won't explode, just piffle & hiss unheard.

If Charles lives as long as his dad it'll be over 25. Wills and Kate will be getting into pensioner territory by then. I wonder if there'll be the same calls for them to step down in favour of the younger generation? If the institution lasts that long of course.

stuntbubbles · 13/12/2022 16:37

Reindeersnooker · 13/12/2022 16:24

I don't think she's very beautiful. The light, angle and make up has to be right. She's very pretty but not a great beauty - they look wonderful almost regardless.

…OK?

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 16:42

Zingy123 · 12/12/2022 19:51

He has allegedly had affairs.

If this is true though, how do those lies affect Harry?? And surely how does Harry talking about that to Netflix and the world affect Kate, George, Louis and Charlotte?

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 16:46

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 16:42

If this is true though, how do those lies affect Harry?? And surely how does Harry talking about that to Netflix and the world affect Kate, George, Louis and Charlotte?

I don’t think Harry is saying the lies he says have been told about William do affect him?

He seems to be raising them in the context of ‘they’ (whoever ‘they’ are) will lie to protect William but not tell the truth when that would help Harry (or possibly Meghan).

I assume the various ambiguities in the trailer are to get people to watch.

RaRaRaspoutine · 13/12/2022 16:47

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 16:42

If this is true though, how do those lies affect Harry?? And surely how does Harry talking about that to Netflix and the world affect Kate, George, Louis and Charlotte?

The rumour is that the press got too close to revealing the affair(s), and in return William via Jason Knauf started to sell out Meghan to throw the press a different bone. It's true that the stories were initially positive and then almost overnight became negative, but then again that is the nature of media, right?

Harry taking it out in the open (if it is that) affects William's family because it shows that their wholesome-family image is fake and William is bad as Charles/repeating the pattern of cheating on the married-in wife.

If it turns out to be tightsgate, then the idea would be that the media tried to create a saintly image for Kate and made Megahn look bad, in order to prop up William and make him look as though he's got the "good" wife.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 13/12/2022 16:55

There is nothing whatsoever disgusting about being gay.

In 2022, it's quite amazing that anyone still believes there is.

Catintinsel · 13/12/2022 16:59

Love the fact that the whole 'press cover up' may well be about a pair of tights.

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 17:00

AndEverWhoKnew · 12/12/2022 21:08

If you could make up a lie about a sibling and they couldn't respond what would you make it?
I'd go for saying they were adopted.

Nah I'd go for saying they have a foot fetish or something, something embarrassing that they wouldn't want people to think

eddiemairswife · 13/12/2022 17:03

I haven't read the whole thread; but have discovered a new word; 'pegging' has got a meaning other than fixing washing to a clothes-line

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 17:17

Tartanshores · 12/12/2022 21:51

Ladyspencer123.
can’t believe a ginger could date/ marry an attractive women?

such an offensive comment .

Harry did actually say this himself in the documentary, I know he is ginger so can maybe make self deprecating jokes, but I did wince!

Murdoch1949 · 13/12/2022 17:25

Another vote for affair(s), he's the heir to the throne so has to be protected, they say. It's his genetic legacy from a cheating father. I have never understood how they fawned over the woman who broke their mother's heart and marriage.

TizerorFizz · 13/12/2022 17:30

Takes two to tango. Charles should have married Camilla much earlier. He’s just a wuss who wouldn’t face up to his grandmother, her friends or his parents. He didn’t love or want Diana. He’s shameful really.,

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 17:33

@Talia99 if that's the case, why throw will under the bus? Why not just say 'the media won't tell the truth to protect us'

ReneBumsWombats · 13/12/2022 17:35

TizerorFizz · 13/12/2022 17:30

Takes two to tango. Charles should have married Camilla much earlier. He’s just a wuss who wouldn’t face up to his grandmother, her friends or his parents. He didn’t love or want Diana. He’s shameful really.,

Didn't she choose Andrew Parker Bowles instead? I understand he was quite a catch back in the day.

stuntbubbles · 13/12/2022 17:36

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 17:33

@Talia99 if that's the case, why throw will under the bus? Why not just say 'the media won't tell the truth to protect us'

Because the double standard is the point! If the media treated them all the same and the royal family treated them all the same, they might not have left.

Thesenderofthiscard · 13/12/2022 17:38

He screws around while pretending to be the perfect family man, living husband and father.
allegedly.

TizerorFizz · 13/12/2022 17:39

@ReneBumsWombats
Not sure Charles made the requisite effort. They met at Cambridge, like William and Kate, so could have stayed together. She didn’t have a title and he was pushed around. This was 10 before Diana was found for him.

TizerorFizz · 13/12/2022 17:40

Obviously W&K met at St Andrews. The point was they met at university. So quite young.

Tigerstotty · 13/12/2022 17:42

Pearfacebanana · 12/12/2022 19:57

I wonder if the programme will actually cover it in any depth.
Google Prince William and lady rose and add something to do with a peg.. you'll find it.

Yes, This was the rumour and what was reporred on the Internet abroad

Bugbabe1970 · 13/12/2022 17:42

It's all bollocks

finished31 · 13/12/2022 17:44

I wonder if it's that bloke in Australia who claims to be Charles & Camila love child. He would be next in line to the thrown if proven.

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 17:48

fairydustt · 13/12/2022 17:33

@Talia99 if that's the case, why throw will under the bus? Why not just say 'the media won't tell the truth to protect us'

If it’s true KP was cheerfully allowing the press to print anything they liked about Meghan with assurances she wouldn’t complain or sue even when the lines were blatantly crossed (see printing her letter to her father), maybe he blames William for not stopping it happening?

I think Harry and William have had a very toxic, one sided relationship for a very long time with it being made clear to both of them from a young age that William was the one who mattered and Harry was just there to back him up. I don’t think any brotherly relationship would do well in those circumstances.

It only worked when Harry and William both agreed with that point of view. With Harry deciding he didn’t want to be an attachment to his brother for the rest of his life (reasonably), but William seeing this decision as a betrayal, their relationship was only going to go downhill.

Jason Knauf agreeing to give evidence against Meghan in her legal case was unprecedented as far as I can tell. I can’t imagine he would have done so without at least tacit permission from William.

I feel sorry for both of them (and Kate and Meghan). I know they have massive privilege but they also have a horrendous level of press intrusion in their lives.

Basically, I think both William and Harry feel betrayed by their brother and I’m fairly sure that both would only agree to reconcile with an abject apology from the other. Since neither think they’ve done anything wrong, I can’t see that happening. It’s sad and an indictment of the Royal system.