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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

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Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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Whoopsywoo · 13/12/2022 04:08

Sindonym · 13/12/2022 03:39

The TV coverage at the time (on the third episode) shows everyone knew she was mixed race. It was really positive for many British people at the time.

i have watched the first 3 episodes & come away reminded how evil the tabloids are. No wonder the press are frothing over the series.

Agree
its noticeable they don’t report on the on going case against them for their crude reporting

vera99 · 13/12/2022 04:15

PicturesOfDogs · 12/12/2022 23:15

I think the prince of pegging rumours are about as credible/on par with rumours of Meghan being a ‘yacht girl’ tbh

Oh and Megan's mum spent time in prison quite a lot of that in the nether regions of the Internet. The missing years.

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 04:20

Basic logic in regard to the ‘yacht girl for Epstein’ rumour (leaving to one side morals and the fact there is no evidence whatsoever M was ever a prostitute and we all know the tabloids dug deep for evidence that was the case) would tell you she was at least 20 years too old for Epstein. He liked girls in their teens not women in their 30s (as she was then).

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 04:25

Morestrangethings · 13/12/2022 03:38

“Fgs, nobody even knew she was mixed-race. Certainly she was never viewed as “an angry black woman” (referenced by a previous poster)

But this was a daily mail headline a full year before they were engaged:

“EXCLUSIVE: Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed - so will he be dropping by for tea?

Prince Harry's new girl, Suits star Meghan Markle, is from Crenshaw, LA
Crenshaw has endured 47 crimes in the past week - including murder
Gangs, including the Bloods, count the neighborhood as their territory
Markle' social worker mom, Doria Ragland, lives in the run-down area
And the actress's aunt, Ava Burrow, is in nearby gang-afflicted Inglewood
By RUTH STYLES IN LOS ANGELES FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:41 AEDT, 2 November 2016 |”

So, ‘nobody even knew’ is really ‘quite a few people knew’

None of what you’ve quoted mentions her race.

I don’t know the suburbs or areas mentioned, I think a Crip is a gang, but I don’t know if Crips are black, white or purple. From that article I’d assume it was implying Meghan was from ‘the wrong side of the tracks’, but not that she was black.

Lily0719 · 13/12/2022 04:30

Pearfacebanana · 12/12/2022 19:57

I wonder if the programme will actually cover it in any depth.
Google Prince William and lady rose and add something to do with a peg.. you'll find it.

@Pearfacebanana i heard the same!

Janieread · 13/12/2022 04:34

Bluekerfuffle · 13/12/2022 00:01

Oh please, the press will talk about anything if there is actual proof of it happening. There have been some pretty sordid stories over the years about the royals.

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I meant H and M. They won't say anything about W having an affair, because if he had, the tabloids would be all over it.

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 04:35

Straight Outta Compton was a 2015 documentary about the rap group NWA (I assume you don’t need an explanation of what the initials stand for?). The headline was a pastiche of the documentary title. If you didn’t know it was saying she was Black, you were one of very few people who didn’t realise that fact.

Of course, that’s why headlines like that are called micro aggressions - the newspaper can pretend they didn’t mean anything by it and the tiny number of people who genuinely don’t see the racism due to being blinkered about anything other than their narrow cultural environment give them plausible deniability.

MarshaMelrose · 13/12/2022 04:35

I just watched a YouTube video and they compared the twitter trailer with the netflix website trailer and the subtitling is different.

In the twitter trailer Harry says that they were happy to lie to protect my brother.
But on the Netflix website trailer Harry says that the British media were happy to lie to protect my brother.

So maybe we are imagining some big lie and instead it's just favouring one over the other. Or maybe this is Harry making the point that the British media is the PR wing of the RF. 🙄

MarshaMelrose · 13/12/2022 04:37

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 04:35

Straight Outta Compton was a 2015 documentary about the rap group NWA (I assume you don’t need an explanation of what the initials stand for?). The headline was a pastiche of the documentary title. If you didn’t know it was saying she was Black, you were one of very few people who didn’t realise that fact.

Of course, that’s why headlines like that are called micro aggressions - the newspaper can pretend they didn’t mean anything by it and the tiny number of people who genuinely don’t see the racism due to being blinkered about anything other than their narrow cultural environment give them plausible deniability.

I didn't/don't know what Compton was about and I don't know what the NWA is either. I've only ever seen it referred to on here.

Janieread · 13/12/2022 04:38

Of course there won't be any revelations. The whole thing looks saccharine.

meinteresamucho · 13/12/2022 04:43

Yes but as regards the Daily Mail headline, most of the country won't have seen that. The Daily Mail might have a large readership but it's not the majority of the country reading every story they publish. I certainly didn't read it at the time and had no interest in Harry's love life at that point. I doubt I saw it but wouldn't have clicked on it if I had. I can't imagine that many people did. I agree it's racist though and by the time of the wedding it had widely been reported she was mixed race. I'm not sure many people attached much significance to that though beyond the fact they thought it was nice the Royal Family was becoming a teeny tiny bit more diverse, which is obviously no bad thing.

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 04:45

I apologise, they were a hip hop group not a rap group. NWA stands for N* Wit Attitudes (not a misspelling). Their music addressed the lower class Black experience in the US including drugs, gangs sex and enmity with the police.

Are you going to pretend you don’t get what the word I haven’t typed in full is? Basically, they used a headline that compared Megan to the N word and suggested she came from an extremely deprived, criminally active, mainly Black area. Bearing in mind she didn’t come from that area, there is no doubt the newspaper was targeting her skin colour.

MarshaMelrose · 13/12/2022 04:50

Interesting. I'd never heard of that documentary. I guessed Compton was a town but for some reason I thought it referred to a sit-com. I don't know why.
I never read that headline and have only seen it referred to on here. Seems very rude to me.
Thanks for explaining.

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 04:53

The name of the group was an attempt by young black men to reclaim a slur. However, they recognised it isn’t appropriate for non-Black people to use the name of the group so when they went more mainstream, they started using the initials.

Christmasbellsagio · 13/12/2022 04:59

MysteryBelle · 12/12/2022 21:07

Meghan has been caught lying about so many things. The Archbishop of Canterbury even had to issue a correction of one of her wild claims. She is on record, on video, calling herself a fraud and bragging about lying to get a job and ability to cry on cue out of one eye. Her voice is put-on and drips with pretension.

The mystery is how she’s conned so many people.

There is not a shred of evidence that Prince William cheated on Princess Catherine with ‘Rose’ or anyone else. Catherine was William’s only truly serious girlfriend. It is malice and jealousy driving this. The only proof we have of anything is a picture of Harry sitting next to Rose Hanbury at an event that Meghan was not allowed to attend while they were dating. That probably enraged her and conveniently right after that is when the rumor started.

100% this

MarshaMelrose · 13/12/2022 05:16

I never heard of NWA - I thought from your earlier post it was National ? Association. Lol. I'm such a dork! I'm not really into hip hop so I doubt I'll come across them.
I've reread your post and honestly for older British people - like me -, I reckon a Compton reference would just fly straight over their heads. And I didn't know she was bi-racial until I saw her mother. She looked sort of Mediterranean to me. I think sometimes we naturally assume that everyone has the same knowledge that we have but that's far from true. Most of us are busy living our lives and a royal girlfriend just doesn't make that much an impression. At least not until they're married.

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 05:48

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 04:35

Straight Outta Compton was a 2015 documentary about the rap group NWA (I assume you don’t need an explanation of what the initials stand for?). The headline was a pastiche of the documentary title. If you didn’t know it was saying she was Black, you were one of very few people who didn’t realise that fact.

Of course, that’s why headlines like that are called micro aggressions - the newspaper can pretend they didn’t mean anything by it and the tiny number of people who genuinely don’t see the racism due to being blinkered about anything other than their narrow cultural environment give them plausible deniability.

I’m not saying that article isn’t racist. It is, by anyones standards. I would say it’s one of the three or four blatantly racist articles about Meghan.

But you quoted it in response to a poster stating she didn’t realise Meghan was black. A lot of people would not associate Compton etc with being black. I didn’t, because I’ve never seen the movie.

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 05:50

@Talia99 sorry that was another posted who originally quoted that article.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 13/12/2022 06:10

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 04:25

None of what you’ve quoted mentions her race.

I don’t know the suburbs or areas mentioned, I think a Crip is a gang, but I don’t know if Crips are black, white or purple. From that article I’d assume it was implying Meghan was from ‘the wrong side of the tracks’, but not that she was black.

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….that’s jaw-droppingly disingenuous.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 13/12/2022 06:14

Thought it was interesting that Megan noted the tabloid's were hoping it was her mum's side that leaked about her.
When it seems it was her dad's side.

I never realised Samantha markle for some reason lost custody of her child and her child doesn't seem happy with her. .even now

LindorDoubleChoc · 13/12/2022 06:17

The journalist who wrote the straight out of Compton article is American. Is it racist to say someone comes from an area with a gangs and crime problem. I'm trying to think what the UK equivalent is. Hackney? Peckham? Toxteth?

Changeyncchange · 13/12/2022 06:19

Straight Outta Compton was a 2015 documentary about the rap group NWA (I assume you don’t need an explanation of what the initials stand for)

Actually it was the name of NWAs seminal album. It was the name of the biopic too but the album predates that by decades

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 06:24

LindorDoubleChoc · 13/12/2022 06:17

The journalist who wrote the straight out of Compton article is American. Is it racist to say someone comes from an area with a gangs and crime problem. I'm trying to think what the UK equivalent is. Hackney? Peckham? Toxteth?

It’s racist to say someone comes from that sort of area when they don’t, and have no connection to people who do other than happening to be of the same race as the majority of the people who live there.

TheKeatingFive · 13/12/2022 06:34

Is it racist to say someone comes from an area with a gangs and crime problem.

Well yes when it isn't true. Which it wasn't.

Changeyncchange · 13/12/2022 06:40

If Meghan had appeared as a model that once appeared in The Sun and the papers decided to characterise that as "Harry's Girl was (nearly) a page 3 scorcher" would people think that was misogynist? I would.

It's like that. And not knowing what page 3 references doesn't make it less so.

I would however judge her for appearing in The Sun JFT96.