To think no one can name a single positive benefit of Brexit

[measuringmylifeincoffeespoons]

Just that really. I'm genuinely curious. There seems to be increasing coverage and evidence of the harm and cost of Brexit. Can anyone point to a positive benefit?

Labour won’t though because they want utter safety for votes - easy but pointless (and possibly detrimental) private school issue, abolishing HoL which I don’t agree with since hearing speeches on Maternity Act and probably a few other low key things.

I like to see both sides. It's part of my desperate struggle to not become dim. In that spirit, I do realise Labour will always be pushing a rock uphill in with the English medias inbuilt bias, cemented by a political system that allows media owners access to the levers of power via the lords and cosy consultancies. As we have seen the best chance they ever had of getting Corbyns manifesto enacted was to leave it to the Tories.

Why on earth do people get so cross about threads they don’t want to engage with and then come on and engage? It’s not as if the title of the thread is a trick to lure the unsuspecting in. Just scroll past. Nobody’s forcing you to read.

And no, Op, YANBU.

Im pro EU but the staffing crisis in many industries seems to have made it a bit easier to find work for some people (me) as theyre desperate

The very best thing about being a Remainer is just sitting back and watching Brexiteers try and justify their decision.
The onus is entirely on them to prove they were right.
Poor things ..... it could hardly be more of a cock up, even worse than most Remainers believed with "Project Fear".

If it's that much of a disaster, a pro-remain party will win the next general election very easily.

@AgnesNaismith @knittingaddict

The vaccine rollout happened while we were still operating under EU regulations for such matters.

Nah, a lie.

I don’t think it’s too bad. BBC go the other way and others attack Tories daily.

As I said in pp this is the starkest polling they’ve had and the best time for Labour to put something like the SM in their manifesto, plus Brexit is still on people’s minds but more negatively.

It’s a shame they’re going for sure votes over U.K. generally. Maybe Ed Miliband polling spooks them.

Not sure you'll bother to check out the link, as it will challenge your confirmation bias, but if you want hard facts, instead of continuing to hold an invalid opinion ... fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-vaccine-brexit/

haha, more small boats than ever before and lack of immigration is crippling many of our industries

I don't see how remaining in the eu would of prevented the boat of illegals coming over.

Maybe it's time to do something about the work shy

'The Lib Dems are not going to win the election. Therefore Brexit is a roaring success.'

I was going to say that the cognitive dissonance on display from Brexiters is mind-boggling. But actually, it's just pathetic desperation and it's dragging us all down.

Labour are currently equivocating and it's frustrating, but just-about understandable at this point in time. None of their fence-sitting is actually an endorsement of the shitshow that we all know Brexit is.

Then I'm afraid that simply proves you didn't understand what you were voting for.

Under EU rules, those boats could have been turned straight back under the Dublin Regulations. Now that we have left, that rule doesn't apply to us anymore. Which is part of the reason that small boat crossings have rocketed since leaving the EU.

And there is no such thing as an 'illegal', btw.

That's not true. Most of the EU countries have inflation as high or higher than the UK.

EU Inflation

Then I'm afraid that simply proves you didn't understand what you were voting for.

have you ever heard the phrase:

"When you assume ,you make an ass out of u and me"?

@stuckandfedup Labour are currently equivocating and it's frustrating, but just-about understandable at this point in time. None of their fence-sitting is actually an endorsement of the shitshow that we all know Brexit is.

As I have posted before I think the Labour policy will be to fence-sit till they win a GE then in year three, or so, update their manifesto to include either/or SM/CU.

No assumption required. Just reading what you actually wrote.

You've assumed I voted to leave the EU.

Oh, you voted to remain in the EU, did you? My apologies, I did make an assumption, based on the cliched Brexit bullshit all your posts on this thread. My mistake.

What were your reasons for voting to remain in 2016, then?

This post is funny if you read it in the voice of John Cleese.

You're assuming I'm not John Cleese.

I thought we could be better out the eu. But it came down to I dont like change and I didnt want import charges when ordering from the eu countries

Nope. It's been overwhelmingly negative.

And even though I voted remain I would have been (surprised but) delighted to have been proved wrong and for Brexit to have been great for the country.

Very true, sorry for that.