To think MN has a race problem and it’s getting worse

[MovingOutofZone2]

Posters say incredibly offensive, often outright racist things and MN lets them stand as it’s a ‘difference of opinion’ and that’s fine. Other posters complain about this and MN deletes said complaints as they are ‘personal attacks’ and that isn’t fine.

Then we have mods wandering in and going ‘let’s have peace and love’, as though ‘both sides’ need to calm down. No, we need to stop placating racists.

I’m not going to give examples as this will get taken down as a TAAT, but I cannot be the only person to be fed up with all this. MN needs to do something about the racism, race baiting and general cultural ignorance. Unless the site is ONLY meant to cater to white people and, even then, I firmly believe that most posters of any race don’t want to see all that ugliness.

It’s getting to the stage where, as a Black person, I’m steeling myself before I log on. And knowing that half the time I report a comment, I won’t even get a token acknowledgement. This isn’t right. It wasn’t always like this.

You cut off that posters list of people you're fine with changing their name so it didn't include "and fine for people who want to ‘fit in’ and become more British."

Is there a reason you confirmed re celebrities and royals but didn't address or include the third 'category' mentioned?

I’m just going to repeat the rest of that comment, as you ignored it. Your capacity for selective reading is rather remarkable.

Charity accounts are scrutinised BY THE CHARITY COMMISSION before they are published BY THE CHARITY COMMISSION. Every year. As you’d know if you knew anything about U.K. charities.

So, the Charity Commission thinks Sistah Space’s accounts are fine. And there is no indication that they aren’t. No breath of scandal apart from one lunatic Reddit thread. If you don’t think their accounts are fine, please tell us why and back it up with some evidence. As all the information is publicly available, this should be fairly straightforward.

When it's due to their name, which has no effect on you, it is pretty strange.

Of course it may have an effect on me, as the name change could be so that I perceive the person differently.

Random people who change their names make you uncomfortable unless they want to ‘fit in’ and be more British. Yes, that is genuinely shocking.

She’s not going to respond to this. She’ll pick a random sentence and respond to that, but ignore the rest of it. #skills

Is there a reason you confirmed re celebrities and royals but didn't address or include the third 'category' mentioned?

For Celebrities and Royals, their image is an integral part of their job.

What claims?

Random people who change their names make you uncomfortable unless they want to ‘fit in’ and be more British

Why do you keep twisting my words? You are coming across as quite aggressive here

How do you think you’re coming across?

What claims?

It's late. Read the full thread, I'll leave you to it

But you say you doubt the veracity of her claim that the conversation took place as she described it.

What further 'evidence' in addition to witnesses and an investigation, followed by a decisive response from the palace, do you need that her account is true? What evidence would be enough?

And when the claim is regarding one conversation and there were witnesses, why do you think the investigation should have taken longer than it did, in order for you to believe it happened? As you suggested it can't have been a 'thorough' investigation due to the response being so swift.

@unsureatthispoint, if witness statements and an immediate and detailed investigation by the RF isn't enough for you to believe a black woman experienced racism at the hands of a white woman, what would it take?

Thought as much. Assuming no further information on the length of all these other investigations you’ve queried will be forthcoming, either?

You say a lot of things and make a lot of claims and then are unable to back them up with anything at all. Lots of moving goalposts, ignored questions and waffle. But, somehow Ngozi is the one that isn’t trustworthy. Funny, that.

@unsureatthispoint is a new account that appears to only post on threads about racism.

@MovingOutofZone2 'absurd claims' ? Nice attempt at deflection there and completely ignoring the point raised in my post. 10 March 2021 on Twitter Sistah Space, Ngozi accused Charles and Camilla of domestic violence but she has the gall to accept the invitation from the Palace.
Anyway, no point in wasting time debating with someone who substitutes insults in place of rational discussion.

Do you have a link to the tweet? I would be (genuinely) interested to see it.

Using the exact same phrasing as you is ‘deflection’ and ‘substituting insults in place of rational discussion’?

Indeed, please don’t waste your time debating with me. Those tinfoil hats won’t make themselves.

is a new account that appears to only post on threads about racism.

I'm not new. I name change, like most posters. And I contribute to most topics, not 'only on threads about racism' as you wrongly claim

@PandoraRocks

10 March 2021 on Twitter Sistah Space, Ngozi accused Charles and Camilla of domestic violence

I found the tweet and seriously wtf. That's totally blindsided me.

Fuck!!! Do you think that's why Lady SH was racist to her?

"she has the gall to accept the invitation from the Palace."

She was invited so she attended. It's not appropriate that you call her having the "gall'. What a horrible statement. She was entitled to be there and she was equally entitled to speak of her experience which, I'm sure we all must agree was utterly disgusting.

What divide?

That tweet is indefensible.

Here is someone that's been on the receiving end of about the highest profile racism you can get and eloquently expressed her view about it giving a voice to many. I had such high hopes for how this would play out.

People are going to read that tweet and undermine the message that could have been sent here.

I'm absolutely livid.

Emotional abuse, controlling behaviour and racism are all DV. Meghan has reported that she was suicidal due to their treatment of her. All of that, under U.K. legislation, would qualify her for DV support. As Ngozi, and anyone else in the VAWG space is fully aware.

Here is someone that's been on the receiving end of about the highest profile racism you can get and eloquently expressed her view about it giving a voice to many. I had such high hopes for how this would play out.

Someone’s certainly changed their tune. You haven’t said a single word in support of Ngozi until this very moment, but now you’re had ‘high hopes’ and are ‘absolutely livid’. Please.

I tend to see you on many of the threads I follow @Mummyoflittledragon .

I hope you're ok