Racism in the Royal Family

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Susan Hussey has resigned. Philip was coming out with similar comments in public all his life, yet there was no move to get rid of him. AIBU to think this is more royal hypocrisy?

@Neapolitanicecream There’s a context there though so to imply otherwise is being disingenuous. Two people of Asian descent asking each other where they are from is incredibly different to a white/Caucasian person asking a person of Asian descent where they are from and then ask where they are really from has racial undertones. Also, unless it’s part of a conversation where the POC is inviting questions about their heritage or is welcoming it, it’s bad manners to randomly question someone where they’re from and then repeatedly ask them if their answers are not to to your satisfaction. I thought it was common sense, but I guess it’s not.

Someone said on the other thread that LH was assigned to MM. If that's the case it casts new light on things.

It would be interesting if those witnesses came out and repeated exactly was was said under oath

I'm a bit younger than her. 65. It would have been called out when I was a child. My mother was an immigrant. It got called out then too. I suspect you are conflating age with class. Yes, there always been racists. But there's always been challenge too. Insistence of being correct in the face of your own ignorance, that's special, entitled, and says more about your class.

The racists on this thread have done an excellent job of showing themselves to be exactly who they are.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them."

Who said that again? 🤔

The people who were there have said it was racist and offensive. The Palace said it was unacceptable and deeply regrettable which is why she has stepped down, nothing to do with any Twitter mob.🙄

Lady SH was racist to Ngozi Fulani.

I've always thought Susan Hussey looked a lot more grandiose than the Queen. Who the fuck does she think she is?

If that transcript as reported is true then she was clearly out of line and quite insulting. ‘Questions like When did you first come here? where are you really from?’ once she’d said she was British.

I imagine some of these roles within the palace are a bit weird as they’re not exactly open competition and imagine they don’t have proper training etc. however, if people are going to be rolled out in a public facing role then they need to be equipped not to offend the people who have been invited. She clearly wasn’t able to do that so there have to be some questions as to who thought she’s be able to do the role appropriately.

Go and check out what they saying on Gransnet about it,|Hussey is being called a poor old thing and is having a lot of tea and sympathy from like minded old dears who would never have to watch what they said to poc back in the day.

Given that Ngozi has previously tweeted about the RF being guilty of inflicting Domestic Abuse on Meghan Markle it certainly does but I suspect different people will see the same information and draw different conclusions.

@Notaflippinclue You might not care, but others might. It might help you understand why that behaviour is not ok and for a POC why it can be seen as othering. Also were you repeatedly asked where you are from and then asked where you originally from or where you are really from? Did you have someone feel that it’s ok to touch your hair or comment on your heritage? If you have experienced that on a daily basis, you might be able understand that for POC the micro-aggressions are really not just part of a conversation and you have to not care because you’re taught not to make a big deal about anything and make a fuss as though you have to be grateful. I may not have experienced it, but I certainly know others who have and it’s nice to witness it and it’s certainly not nice to experience it on a daily basis. And I can imagine that it can be incredibly tiresome.

This.

I am white but remember meeting a very very tall man in the university bar one day / asked him what course he was doing ‘economics’ asked him where he was from ‘Nigeria’ he said - really? I replied how long is the flight? (Just asked a guy from Glasgow they same question- (all just started in freshers week year 1) - Brian (on my left) managed to get into his accommodation early etc - no said Daniel I didn’t take a flight. Me / must of looked puzzled.
Him-
I was born in Oxford - so I said - so you are from Oxford - cool I said my sister is at Oxford etc
him/ I’m really sorry I keep being asked where are you from and when I say Oxford. People ask where my parents are from and then tell me I’m Nigerian.

this was 1990 - I didn’t think ignorance existed then - if Dan came from Oxford - he came from Oxford and British. Just like Brian was Scottish from Glasgow or Tony was Welsh from Cardiff.

when asking about heritage or background I feel you need to know people very well and the situation and it needs to relevant.
My daughter doesn’t know her father - at all. He’s not on her BC she has never met him. Fielding questions about what do your parents do as a getting to know you - isn’t polite.

her response was downright racist - the terms used, not accepting she was from Hackney. Saying her people…. Saying I’m going to have trouble getting this out of you. Denying she is British etc

Capital R for racist. Wasn’t acceptable in 1990 when my friend Dan was sick of ‘where do you really come from’ when he said Oxford and not acceptable now

If that transcript as reported is true

This is what we don't know

That's racist

I think it shows that this sort of attitude is common place within the royal family because they must have know what this lady was like as she’s served for so long and they saw nothing wrong with having her at this event

Correct.
She's actually been trained in the role and carried out the role as she always has - her and other royal household members. Learned at the feet of Philip, The QM and Margaret. We do know directly about the Queen, but as she chose Hussey.................

The Caribbean Tour of William and Kate was another giant clue the Royals and their advisors are out of touch with what is acceptable behaviour.

Thanks for the link... Did you honestly read that and didn't feel her personal pain of a life's worth of hardship caused solely because of the colour of her skin?!
Reading her words made me realise how terribly offended she must have felt by people who should've known better.

it’s not nice to witness*

Hmmm… why would a woman who runs a great charity that supports DV victims do this? Hm Hm Hm why would you instinctively not trust this woman, but trust the old white woman who has made no denial of the conversation? Hmhmhmmmmmm

She went there with an agenda, to cause trouble

She did not initiate Husseys line of questioning! How could she possibly be to blame?

The Caribbean Tour of William and Kate was another giant clue the Royals and their advisors are out of touch with what is acceptable behaviour

Why? If I recall correctly, they seem to have been invited and then shunned by the hosts and given grief ? Is that acceptable to you? They shouldn't have bothered

I would say to a total stranger , no. its not really necessary.

An you think it is polite for you to ask, then ask directly.

Where is your accent from? Your voice different to what i am used to, why?

What ethnicity are you? Where did your family migrate from as due to your Skin colour/voice you are 'different'?

If you cannot with confidence ask plainly what and why you are asking, maybe consider it is impolite to ask a stranger such things.

Because at the end of the day you are asking why are you different, explain that to me person i do not know.

Hussey is by all appearances incredibly wealthy and will have lawyers to contact I’m sure. And yet no denial from her, no rebuttal at all? How strange…

@Hills2022 Ngozi Fulani has a name too. If you can take the time to write “Susan Hussey”, it doesn’t take that much of an effort write Ms Fulani’s. Which part of the conversation was she being disingenuous? I’m genuinely curious to see how you interpreted it that way. I’m curious because the way I read it, she clearly wanted to focus on the charity which was exactly why she was there in the first place. I was even more shocked when I found out that her hair was moved out of the way to read her name badge so already the conversation started off with a micro-aggression. But clearly some posters think Lady Hussey’s behaviour is ok because of her age.

I don't think publicly airing ones grievances on social media is really her style.