To think that Adam White should have never been sent to prison and we're way too soft on career criminals!

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I watched 24 Hours in Police Custody on catch up. A father and husband, a completely law abiding tax payer was chasing after two career criminals who had tried to burgle his garage, where he kept thousands of £ worth of tools he needed for work.

Adam White and the two thugs were in an RTC, the thugs were injured and Adam was sentenced to 22 months in prison for GBH. He lost his life savings, his job and his wife had an abortion because she wouldn't have been able to support a new baby and their two existing children whilst he was in prison.

The two thugs received community service...

Here's a link to the full story www.lbc.co.uk/news/adam-white-24-hours-in-police-custody-backlash-fund-raised-crooks-avoid-jail/

Yes he probably shouldn't have chased after the thugs, but he didn't actually intend to harm anyone. Violent domestic abusers and career criminals seem to escape prison sentences all the time, yet a hardworking father had a custodial sentence to set an example.

I feel so sorry for Adam and his wife, especially since they had to make the heartbreaking decision to end her pregnancy due to all this.

Honetaly hoping I will never have to sit on jury with some of you lot😐

I felt very sorry for him, if you know people who work in trades the theft of their tools is the worst thing and he just seemed to act on adrenaline. I read that the horrible scenes sued him after that as well.

Christ would you lot make up your minds up please? One minute you lot are saying it's perfectly OK to torture someone to death for breaking into a house. The next you're saying we have to review crimes and offenders to make sure they are comparable. Then you're back to saying it's unfair White was jailed and the attempted burglars weren't as if trying to break into someone's house is comparable to using your car seriously injury someone.

Yes some don't want to change I already said that but if you genuinely want to see a reduction in crime then we need to address the root causes of crime, not just randomly increase or decrease punishment based on the court of public opinion.

Oh and @healthadvice123 I can 100% guarantee I've had way more interaction with "people like that" than you'll ever have.

I'm torn on this. He used his car as a weapon and hurt people, which is illegal. Yet I also feel sorry for him...

...but cannot imagine if I were in the same situation I could wholeheartedly say it wasn't my fault, when questioned.

@Thebestwaytoscareatory what is you people supposed to mean , what do you mean by that , and you have no idea about my life or interaction with people
And at no point did I say it was ok to torture someone
But many many live in povertt etc they all turn in to criminals and some of the worst ones have had good lifes as well
But victims need to always be put ahead of the criminal , my kids did not deserve to feel unsafe in their home due to one random repeat offender who gives zero shits about anyone

Sounds like they likely did take circumstances into account which will be why he got less than 2 years.
Fact is that was not self defence. You dont do a car chase and run people off the road ,even burglars.

@Cheesuswithallama its also a fact that many many who have hard childhoods don't become criminals and also thats some had perfectly good childhoods
If the punishment was stricture it would deter more and repeat offenders not let if lightly to continue to cause major trauma to others then maybe the numbers would drop, and prison actually a punishment

And aren't the police tasked with preservation of life (all life) first?

Agreed Branleuse

@Branleuse well if the police were to show up then yes they would of chased and many a time a criminal had run off the road being chased
I didn't see the Episode so can't say if he ran them off the road or gave chase to try and catch them, but he got prison they never, they were armed with things that could be weapons and were entering a house with children etc yet that wasn't taken in account
If someone breaks into my house I will defend it and hit them with the nearest thing if I feel threatened.
TradesMen have their tools stolen a lot and its crippling , he never intended to cause them injury , they will of planned their burglary and are then joking about it all

Not sure why the police are being blamed surely it's the justice system that imprisoned one and let off the others.

The law is fairly clear on what constitutes self defence, and this isnt it. The burglars had left.
He did what most people would want to probably do. Track the bastards down and give them a kicking. He went and chased them in a car in a rage. You just cant do that and get away with it. It could have been him that got killed or an innocemt pedestrian.
Theres a lot of things that are tempting to do in retaliation when we are wronged, but we cant just do them. No matter how tempting.

If our legal system was fit for purpose and could be relied on to provide some kind of semblance of ‘justice’ then maybe people wouldn’t feel like they needed to take the law into their own hands.

Increasingly the only people who seem to suffer the consequences of their actions are the generally law-abiding middle. The rich pay to get off and for the scumbags it’s the price of doing business.

@Branleuse but maybe community service etc and not prison and maybe if we had more poilce to show up and feel that when people do get caught they are punished
Having been burgled and ny kids being petrified if being in their own home , I hated the burglar and he swans around without a care , I would of felt better if his life was impacted more by punishment.
I get we can't all be vigilantes but its often adrenaline and nit thinking and going in survival mode that makes people act irrationally , a recent case people on here were all agreeing with the reaction
We have to get tougher to stop more people feeling like they have to take in to their own hands

@Snnowflake yes police don't get a say just present evidence etc

The fact that the two robbers didn't even want to prosecute is enough for me to agree. That young guys three children would've been far better off with him IN jail, as opposed to Adam White's child who now doesn't even exist and his poor wife...it was awful

I watched the programme and it made me very sad that this man ended up in prison due to his reaction to those scrotes who broke into his house. A bloody waste of space earning their living by thieving from others.

I've got my Irish families temper - as well as my English grans. I don't think of danger if someone's in trouble. In Ireland a young man was being beaten by other young me and I walked out in case my dsis car was damaged, it stopped the fight and fortunately the lad only had a broken arm and fingers and his head wound was superficial as I'd stopped him from being clubbed with a scaffolding pole.

What surprised my dm when I passed my test first time in my 30's was that I'm a calmer driver than my dsis. I remember saying that a car was a lethal weapon.

The scrotes hadn't got into the family home or done any damage. But Adam foolishly got into his powerful £30,000 Merc and was speeding when he rounded a bend losing control of his car. It was quite an impact as the bike smashed into two other vehicles. As another poster said he could have killed an innocent bystander(s). But whilst I understand why he was charged and that justice was done under the law morally It's another story. I hope the scrotes get nothing for their claim.

I get that vigilantism shouldn’t be encouraged but my main issue with it is bystanders and innocent people being caught up in it. If I’d been on the jury in cases like Sarah Sands I’d have found not guilty.

You people = those on this thread defending acts of vigilantism, some of whom have said they think it is ok to torture burglars to death, that's the type of people you align yourself with when you support vigilante justice.

I have as much an idea as to your life and interaction with people as you do about me. Why are you allowed to make assumptions and judgements on my character/life but I can't do the same to you?

No, your kids don't deserve to feel unsafe in their home due to one persons actions but then the repeat offender I spoke about in a previous post didn't deserve to be raped by multiply men and his dad for 2 years either. You know what will reduce the chances of either of those things happening again? Addressing the underlying societal causes of crime, surely it would be better to stop things like that happening in the first place rather than just focusing punishing those who do end up offending?

@Thebestwaytoscareatory People like you are the reason crime is out of control.

We had our catalytic converter stolen last year and it ruined Christmas because we couldn't drive to visit relatives - not to mention the repair bills. I don't give a fuck if the thieving scum had difficult childhoods. I had a traumatic childhood and I don't go around stealing shit from other people.

The career criminals in this case deserve the birch and a long stretch inside. If they'd been stamped on the first time they were caught, they might not have tried their luck a second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth time.

Fuck 'em.

I really hope those 2 scallies get their comeuppance.

Ive also been burgled too. Its a horrible feeling.
If he had got hold of them straight away and battered them Id say fair enough. Using your massive car as a weapon though is another thing entirely.

@Thebestwaytoscareatory I never made assumptions about you , but you did about me , you tagged me not the other way.
And your caring nature obviously doesn't extend to all
Lots of people have bad childhoods they don't all become criminals and even if they do if punishment were better maybe it would deter more.
Also understanding that as people feel like the poilce and justice system isn't fit for purpose more things like this will happen.