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To think Royal Mail workers should not be striking

796 replies

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 00:55

They’ve already been offered a 9% pay raise and declined. Royal Mail is already making a loss. It’s a national service for the public which is now being severely disrupted by strikes, it’s appalling.

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Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 00:57

They are also making the mail service more unreliable by striking and more of a shambles

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LadyPenelope68 · 27/11/2022 01:00

it’s a national service for the public which is now being severely disrupted by strikes, it’s appalling
think you’ll find that’s the whole point of a strike! 🤣

Sparklesocks · 27/11/2022 01:02

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 00:57

They are also making the mail service more unreliable by striking and more of a shambles

That’s exactly what strikes happen - as a display of how reliant the public are on the services those workers provide and what happens without them. It’s meant to show how essential they are and be impactful.

InternetRandom · 27/11/2022 01:04

Making a loss? Perhaps the chief exec shouldn't have taken a bonus of £142K this year then.

Nope, I support the postal workers. I'm not one myself but good luck to them.

girlmom21 · 27/11/2022 01:04

That's 9% over 18 months which would mean no pay rise next year

ThatGirlInACountrySong · 27/11/2022 01:04

I support them too!!

Keyansier · 27/11/2022 01:05

If you don't work in the royal mail then what on earth has it got to do with you?

RosalindsAFuckingNightmare · 27/11/2022 01:07

It's not about the pay rise, it's about the conditions that come with the pay rise - getting rid of shifts that are family friendly, working weekends with no overtime etc.

stuntbubbles · 27/11/2022 01:07

LadyPenelope68 · 27/11/2022 01:00

it’s a national service for the public which is now being severely disrupted by strikes, it’s appalling
think you’ll find that’s the whole point of a strike! 🤣

Every strike thread! “This is so disruptive, how dare they want money for the service they’re proving is vital.” Gold every time.

BadTimesAtTheElRoyale · 27/11/2022 01:07

It not a National Service. Royal Mail was sold off

jetadore · 27/11/2022 01:08

They have every right to be striking. The rest of us should be protesting. Can’t believe how compliant people are these days. Hopefully they get what they want and the rest of us start waking up about exercising our rights and demanding change.

Roundandnour · 27/11/2022 01:09

More wages for them will mean more layoffs.

RM are in a precarious position due to the number of different delivery companies. Never mind the number of companies that encourage going paperless thus reducing mail. It’s nothing new of course.

Oh and it’s a private company btw. Well 90% of it is anyway.

TemporaryAlternativeName · 27/11/2022 01:09

“It’s a national service for the public”

No, it used to be a national service for the public. The 2011 Postal Services Act floated most of it on the stock market, which, followed by the government’s choice to sell its remaining 30% stake in 2015, means it’s a private post and courier company run for shareholders.

VegangeIist · 27/11/2022 01:09

They have my full support, however long it takes.

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 01:10

Keyansier · 27/11/2022 01:05

If you don't work in the royal mail then what on earth has it got to do with you?

Because it affects everyone (myself included) who uses royal main

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Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 01:10

Mail

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MintJulia · 27/11/2022 01:10

Do you think posties deliver letters for the sake of their health?

They have mortgages and fuel bills to pay as well. 9% over 18 months is likely to be about 6% for the year, while we have 10% inflation, so it is not a pay rise in real terms.

I think we will all have to tolerate some belt tightening, none of us will be getting rich in the coming two or three years, but I don't understand why you think Royal Mail workers are somehow under more or less obligation than any other workers.

Florenz · 27/11/2022 01:10

They're digging their own grave. The company (and it is a company) is trying to modernise but a lot of the staff are stuck in the 1970s and resistant to any change.They'll end up losing their Royal Charter before long and then they won't even be able to be called Royal Mail anymore.

stuntbubbles · 27/11/2022 01:11

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 01:10

Because it affects everyone (myself included) who uses royal main

That’s… the… point…

LBFseBrom · 27/11/2022 01:11

I support the Royal Mail strike and think their service is marvellous.

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 01:11

Roundandnour · 27/11/2022 01:09

More wages for them will mean more layoffs.

RM are in a precarious position due to the number of different delivery companies. Never mind the number of companies that encourage going paperless thus reducing mail. It’s nothing new of course.

Oh and it’s a private company btw. Well 90% of it is anyway.

If they get a higher pay rise more jobs will be lost. This is why they need to accept what they’ve been offered

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Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 01:12

Florenz · 27/11/2022 01:10

They're digging their own grave. The company (and it is a company) is trying to modernise but a lot of the staff are stuck in the 1970s and resistant to any change.They'll end up losing their Royal Charter before long and then they won't even be able to be called Royal Mail anymore.

This! The company want to modernise but the workers are resisting it.

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Booklover3 · 27/11/2022 01:20

I agree with anyone’s right to strike. We all deserve a fair living wage. One that is actually enough to live on.

EasilyDistracted77 · 27/11/2022 01:22

Please don't just look at the headline and not understand the full nature of the dispute. Do some research.

The pay offer has conditions attached which will largely remove the 'national service for the public' that you cited, in order to focus purely on generating profits for the benefits of the shareholders.

It is also not a 9% pay increase in real terms when a huge number of employees, who took the job because it fits into the school day or other caring commitments, will have to start paying for (child)care due to later start and finish times. This is just one example of many where employees who have been doing the job for years and years will be worse off and not just financially.

Do you expect everyone to just roll over and accept different contract terms making them worse off without protest? Should all 158k employees leave and search for a new job in this current climate? Or should we ALL be fighting to keep this 500-year-old public service alive, rather than it being chopped up and sold to the highest foreign investor for profit?

Nat6999 · 27/11/2022 01:22

The Royal Mail shares shouldn't have been underpriced when they were were first sold. The CEO & executive management are a nightmare, my brother is fairly high up in the IT department & he is constantly complaining about the fact that for all the money being paid to the executives & CEO there is no proper management, his manager is German, lives in Germany & doesn't do anything but fire off emails complaining that they need to work harder, they were a team of 15 but now are down to 5 staff who are now expected to do the work of two teams of 15 for no more money. The manager has had a £50k wage rise, 25%, they have been offered 3%. He will be getting a shock because
most of the team are preparing to quit, they can get more money & less hassle elsewhere.