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To send DS to school with a stab pack?

163 replies

PolkaDotMankini · 24/11/2022 11:44

DS is in year 8 (ages 12-13) at senior school. It's a great school but DS has been caught up in a couple of fights this half term and I'm doing the classic mum worrying. After the first one I bought a couple of Israeli bandages. They're the type used for serious bleeding.

WIBU to send him on a first aid course and pack one of these bandages in his bag, just in case? DS thinks I'm being way OTT.

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headstone · 24/11/2022 12:29

Middle class mumsnet ‘just move areas’ as if everyone can just do that.

Ultravox · 24/11/2022 12:29

I think the bandage is a bit OTT (although I’d be tempted myself if it doesn’t take up much space) but some first aid training is probably a good idea.

I live in a “naice” area but a friend’s son was threatened with a knife in our town and my 16yr old DS was randomly attacked on the way home from school.

We contacted the school and the police who were both very helpful but other than not allowing him out my sight there’s not much anyone can do to prevent total idiots from attacking someone if they are hell bent on it.

Educating them on what to do on that scenario is a good idea.

Georgeskitchen · 24/11/2022 12:30

Judging by what we see and hear on the news about knife-carrying children ( who seem to be getting younger by the minute) I would say it was a very good idea. Also self defence classes, which are good for boosting a child's confidence.
Sadly this is what 40 years of namby pamby bleeding hearts Liberal views have brought us to.
When disciplining children is now virtually a crime, no wonder this is the place we are at!!

Dogness · 24/11/2022 12:30

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oakleaffy · 24/11/2022 12:31

@PolkaDotMankini Our Biology A level tutor, as an aside when doing Lungs / diaphragm gave us all a bit of advice re “ Sucking chest wound”
If someone is stabbed in the ribs, to apply something airtight over the wound to create a seal ( While obviously waiting for an ambulance)
He said a plastic bag/ clingfilm would do, to enable the person to breathe.

Thankfully not had to do it, but I wonder if he had to at one time…

theleafandnotthetree · 24/11/2022 12:33

KittieDaley · 24/11/2022 12:26

I would be moving to an area with better schools.

If only it were that easy. What planet are people on? This poster lives where she lives, is trying her best. I am pretty sure she would ideally like to live somewhere where she didn't have to consider these things. Her moving away - even if this were an option - doesn't address the wider issue of why ANY child should have to run the gaunlet like this (and her childs school is the best one). So having schools and areas like this isn't a problem so long as individuals can afford to move from them?

Hoppinggreen · 24/11/2022 12:33

If I seriously felt my child needed this then they would not be going.
I have a friend who is an emergency theatre nurse and she nice said to me “do you know who gets stabbed Hopping? People who carry knives”
Not victim blaming at all but if you are in a situation where you feel you need to take a knife then you shouldn’t be there and you need to leavev

oakleaffy · 24/11/2022 12:33

Edit- I googled sucking chest wound and this is now what is advised
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ShirleyPhallus · 24/11/2022 12:35

Georgeskitchen · 24/11/2022 12:30

Judging by what we see and hear on the news about knife-carrying children ( who seem to be getting younger by the minute) I would say it was a very good idea. Also self defence classes, which are good for boosting a child's confidence.
Sadly this is what 40 years of namby pamby bleeding hearts Liberal views have brought us to.
When disciplining children is now virtually a crime, no wonder this is the place we are at!!

Does anyone actually talk like this in real life

Laiste · 24/11/2022 12:35

OK, so i was going to ask how prevalent knife crime is in your area and you've already said: knife problems in your catchment area.

You should have said this in your OP. I think answers would have been a bit different.

I wouldn't blame you for sending your DC in with anything which would help in a knife attack. But i would also prioritise making sure he stops getting involved in anything physical with other pupils in or out of school.

MajorCarolDanvers · 24/11/2022 12:35

If I thought my kid was going to get stabbed at school I'd be changing schools and moving elsewhere.

Feef83 · 24/11/2022 12:36

The nanosecond I found myself considering this, is the nanosecond that I immediately put my house on the market and move heaven and earth to move to an area whether this is not the best school available

Laiste · 24/11/2022 12:37

MajorCarolDanvers · 24/11/2022 12:35

If I thought my kid was going to get stabbed at school I'd be changing schools and moving elsewhere.

This too, really.

I'd move heaven and earth.

Laiste · 24/11/2022 12:38

Feef83 x post with our heaven and earths 🙂

oakleaffy · 24/11/2022 12:38

FixTheBone · 24/11/2022 11:57

First aid is fine, the bandage is probably OTT.

If someone gets stabbed in a limb, I've never encountered a situation where direct pressure hasn't been enough, and paramedics carry these bandages / tourniquets in any case.

If someone gets stabbed somewhere important, nothing is going to help that you can do at the roadside without some serious skills, equipment and training.

DOI Major trauma surgeon.

Damilola Taylor haunts a certain generation.
I take on board what you are saying here.

Kanaloa · 24/11/2022 12:39

He needs to stop ‘getting caught up’ and ‘dragging his friends out of fights.’ Because realistically if his friends need dragging out of fights that much then he will always be in and out of fights.

Also, I wouldn’t swallow every excuse. The boys who are always ‘dragged into’ fights are just getting involved with it, aren’t they? Tell him it’s unacceptable and will end with him getting really hurt.

RyanReno · 24/11/2022 12:39

Feels OTT

BusgyMalone · 24/11/2022 12:40

RebulahConundrum · 24/11/2022 12:24

Mad responses once again. Of course YANBU. In some places, I'm guessing London, it seems like stabbings are almost an inevitable part of life. Your DS should always avoid getting involved but one day he might not have a choice and YANBU to equip him with what he needs to save his own or someone else's life.

You think being stabbed is an inevitable part of living in London?! Even more bonkers than the OP

Laiste · 24/11/2022 12:43

FixTheBone · 24/11/2022 11:57

First aid is fine, the bandage is probably OTT.

If someone gets stabbed in a limb, I've never encountered a situation where direct pressure hasn't been enough, and paramedics carry these bandages / tourniquets in any case.

If someone gets stabbed somewhere important, nothing is going to help that you can do at the roadside without some serious skills, equipment and training.

DOI Major trauma surgeon.

Good advice.

But Jesus - this is where we're at now when considering our kids walking home from school 😔

When i was a kid i just had to be home by the time the street lights came on and don't go IN any strange houses.

What's happened to our lives?

strawberrydress · 24/11/2022 12:43

This sounds truly awful. Where do you live?!

Feef83 · 24/11/2022 12:44

Laiste · 24/11/2022 12:43

Good advice.

But Jesus - this is where we're at now when considering our kids walking home from school 😔

When i was a kid i just had to be home by the time the street lights came on and don't go IN any strange houses.

What's happened to our lives?

This is not in any way representative of my children’s lives (SE town)

Wiluli · 24/11/2022 12:45

Are you in the U.K. ? Where do you live ? Good ness I find it shocking . If you think him being stabbed is a serious risk then yes I would keep them in his backpack , what harm can it do ?

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 24/11/2022 12:46

Feef83 · 24/11/2022 12:36

The nanosecond I found myself considering this, is the nanosecond that I immediately put my house on the market and move heaven and earth to move to an area whether this is not the best school available

Big assumption there that everyone owns their house 🙄

GerbilsForever24 · 24/11/2022 12:47

Why aren't you addressing this with the school? DS got into a couple of scuffles beginning year 7. School took a hardline approach and while DS was completely exonerated for being responsible, he did have consequences for making bad choices int he moment. Subsequent fight.... he made ALL the right choices, got into no trouble and learn that prevention is better than cure and now actively avoids those children completely

Laiste · 24/11/2022 12:48

Feef83 - well, not for mine either (tiny village in the countryside). But i watch the news. Stabbings are on the increase. It's often school age kids involved.

I grew up in London. I'm glad i moved when my DCs were little.