"A little girl being rough with her hands"

[Jourdain11]

DC's primary gave them the option to watch the football yesterday and both my DD2 (year 5) and DS did. The ones who didn't want to watch (like my DD1!) got to read or watch st

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you talk about “precious Princesses” and scoff at the notion of toxic masculinity
but what’s your thoughts on the fact that this “spat between two ten year olds “ only happened in the first place because the boy decided girls can’t watch football?
where do you think that attitude comes from?

I work in primary and never hear anything like this. It’s an all female staff and there is no gender stereotyping. We’ve had boys in dresses on mufti day and a mixed football team representing the school( small school and not enough girls want to play) and we actively choose topics to represent all groups. I would never say what that TA said. I would speak to both about not using hands to hurt each other and the boy’s sexist comments would be dealt with seriously.

Yep I agree.

Stop being so passive and "not make a fuss" and get in there and advocate for your girl!

My friend who works in a primary school has used that exact phrase about not being rough with your hands and saying they use kind hands.

@NeedAChangeAsIAmSoooOuting its fine to use to the phrase but don’t add the word girls (implying it’s fine for boys to do it but not nice if girls do it)

Apparently grandad says it. Soup for brains? I'm not sure!

@Jourdain11
I like it and may adopt it :)

what makes you think that if she had seen one of the little boys slapping your dd she wouldn't have talked about a little boy being rough with his hands

PP above have it: it is fine to tell kids not to be rough with their hands. It is not ok to make it a gendered issue in particular to girls
There are ways to get the message across to kids without bringing their sex into it and a good teacher/TA will do that.

OP in your shoes i'd raise this as a general point with the school on several levels: reinforce the message that football (as spectator and participation sport) is for all regardless of sex, that using "lesbian" and other sex based words as an insult is an absolute no-no. Violence is also not allowed - but that if you are hitting someone there is a chance that if the teacher/TA doesn't see and put a stop to it, they might get hit back. (also not good but it may make them think twice)

This.

You really need to speak to the school OP.

Is think the same

yesterday I was in a school and saw a sign saying how sexual harrassment is wrong and crossed out was boys just being boys. I was so cross that they think that it’s only boys who are capable of that!

They are well out of order here. I would not be pleased at all.so the boy doesn't get told off for sexist language but the girl does for standing up for herself. Misogyny seems to start young sadly .I would have a word with th teacher.its not acceptable in the slightest

But the expression is "boys will be boys." That's what it's referring to.

Also, the majority of sexual harassment is male to female, it just is. If we can get little boys to understand it's wrong, in an age-appropriate way, we can stamp that out for the next generation.

I have one of each. I've taught them both, since they were tiny, that they don't touch people who don't want to be touched.

@Whoopsywoo the safeguarding document Keeping Children Safe in Education (which all staff in schools in England have to read) specifically refers to the saying ‘boys will be boys’ and how that cannot be used as an excuse for any behaviour.

Some parents of boys should take note. I hate that saying and I have a son but I have heard it so many times from other parents.

But he plays football with her and it doesn't sound like he normally has an issue, but that he was trying to wind her up and used this as a way. Given ops daughter can clearly hold her own with him, I don't think we need to over burden this kid with more than being an annoying kid who needs to know its not OK to use sexist and "lesbianism" "insults.