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To ask if you've ever met an 'alpha' male ?

121 replies

ALPHAquest · 11/11/2022 17:21

If so, what were they like and what made them an 'alpha' in yours or their eyes?

Genuinely interested in both positives and negatives after a thread where Op mentioned her DH was an alpha.

OP posts:
sleepwhenidie · 11/11/2022 17:41

Sn0tnose · 11/11/2022 17:28

I’ve met loads who would describe themselves as Alpha males. Insufferable, bossy know it alls who use their size and volume to override everyone else.

I’ve also met a few who would never use that phrase in a million years but who seem to me to be more in keeping with the definition. Unflappable, respected and everyone automatically looks to them when a situation arises and defers to their decision (which is best for everyone, not just them and their mates).

Totally this - the ones who would describe themselves as/strive to be Alpha are awful.

The ones who actually are Alpha would never utter the word in relation to themselves! Typically clever, accomplished, charismatic, confident, empathetic and extremely attractive.

notreallynice · 11/11/2022 17:41

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Crackof · 11/11/2022 17:42

tickticksnooze · 11/11/2022 17:40

Can I just point out that the one single piece of research upon which the "alpha male" hypothesis was based has been conclusively debunked as flawed - and the scientist responsible for this garbage concept entering our culture has spent the decades since trying to publicise that there is no such thing as alpha males?

There is no such thing. I have never met one. They don't exist.

Got a name or handy link? I'd like to read up

Rinatinabina · 11/11/2022 17:42

I think the phrasing of alpha and beta was used about chimps. They regularly cannibalise other chimps so not sure if it translate well to human society. I think people who think of themselves in those terms suffer from insecurity. if you have to use terms to aid you in a process of comparison against other men all the time then you have low self esteem.

Ballygoforwards · 11/11/2022 17:42

Most of the men I used to work with are alpha males. Lots of the local dads are too.
I’ve since had a career change and it’s so refreshing working with polite techie geeks instead.

EiraR · 11/11/2022 17:42

The self proclaimed ‘Alphas’ are generally on the same level as the other gurning idiots who say ‘I’m mad me!’.
The most tragic posts I’ve seen on Facebook recently is your woman Sue from down the road gushing over hubby Steve ‘a true Alpha’.

Regularsizedrudy · 11/11/2022 17:44

There is no such thing. And anyone claiming to be one is to be avoided at all costs. It’s code for “I’m a total cunt”

Thepeopleversuswork · 11/11/2022 17:44

PortiasBiscuit · 11/11/2022 17:40

I married an alpha male, he is not a dickhead, he is a strong, kind, gentle man at the top of his game work wise.
He has confidence without arrogance and that gives him a real presence in any situation. He does not shoot his mouth off, he doesn’t boast, he doesn’t need to.
He is assertive without bullying, listens and offers advice when it is needed. He doesn’t mansplain and he respects women. He is a fantastic father.

He is also grumpy on occasions and getting a bit tubby, so not perfect. If I described him as an Alpha male he would laugh in my face.

I think you have misunderstood the phrase “alpha male”. Your husband is not one.

Hohofortherobbers · 11/11/2022 17:45

Yes, they 'hold court' at any gathering, assume the leader role and conversation seems to be with the intent of getting the next laugh from the room, at anyone's expense. Know several and they are dominating men who I keep at arms length, not to be trusted.

tenbob · 11/11/2022 17:45

I’ve worked in the City for 20 years

i can spot them a mile off and I have mastered the art of drowning them out in meetings and social situations

It’s a heady mix of childhood issues meet ASD and/or NPD in most of the ones I’ve met and worked with

Andanotherginplease · 11/11/2022 17:46

PortiasBiscuit · 11/11/2022 17:40

I married an alpha male, he is not a dickhead, he is a strong, kind, gentle man at the top of his game work wise.
He has confidence without arrogance and that gives him a real presence in any situation. He does not shoot his mouth off, he doesn’t boast, he doesn’t need to.
He is assertive without bullying, listens and offers advice when it is needed. He doesn’t mansplain and he respects women. He is a fantastic father.

He is also grumpy on occasions and getting a bit tubby, so not perfect. If I described him as an Alpha male he would laugh in my face.

Well, we either share the same DH or they were twins separated at birth!!! 😂
Meant light heartedly of course!

Thepeopleversuswork · 11/11/2022 17:47

tenbob · 11/11/2022 17:45

I’ve worked in the City for 20 years

i can spot them a mile off and I have mastered the art of drowning them out in meetings and social situations

It’s a heady mix of childhood issues meet ASD and/or NPD in most of the ones I’ve met and worked with

Totally. I know the syndrome.

A very large proportion of them are alcoholics or substance abusers and a lot of them are serial cheats.

Avoid.

Quag2286 · 11/11/2022 17:47

Yes. They're always wankers.

RoseBucket · 11/11/2022 17:47

A loud empty vessel who has extraordinary self believe in himself.

DatingDinosaur · 11/11/2022 17:51

There’s the Alpha Male and the Wannabe Alpha Male.

The Wannabe Alpha Male is a loud, self-centred knobhead who thinks he’s the bees-knees and likes everyone to know it. He always plays the bad guy in movies.

The Alpha Male is secure enough in himself without needing prove anything to anyone. He has a quiet confidence that isn’t arrogance. He is capable of being kind and gentle without thinking that it shows weakness or emasculates him in some way. He is not afraid to follow his own path even if he is subjected to ridicule by others. He always plays the good guy in movies.

Pinkbonbon · 11/11/2022 17:53

I've met alpha men and alpha women. Good leaders, confident, well spoken, capable of understanding the needs of others and working to see that their needs are met in a mutually beneficial way. Resourceful. Compassionate. Strong and steadfast.

But anyone whoo claims to be an 'alpha' probably just a bellend with a god complex.

Same thing for Mr arrogant who doesn't claim to be yet seems to think he is better than everyone else. Being physically strong/confident/arrogant/balzy/brave or brazen, does not make you an alpha. Nor does taking things you want without regard for reason and other people. It just makes you unevolved.

Pinkbonbon · 11/11/2022 17:57

An actual alpha example - Aaragon from Lord of the rings.

A ģod complex example who claims to be an alpha - joffrey from game of thrones.

FourTeaFallOut · 11/11/2022 17:58

Oh please, alpha 🙄

The only thing more tragic than a man calling himself alpha is the simpering fool on his arm.

Windingdown · 11/11/2022 17:59

Nobody can be 'alpha' in any situation can they? You'd have to be thick skinned and arrogant to think you could be. The 'alpha' types I've met have been dominating pains in the arse who stopped those around them from being themselves and contributing. Best avoided.

Muddywaters1 · 11/11/2022 18:13

Dwayne Johnson to me would be an alpha male. Could walk through fire to save you whilst holding teeny tiny baby bird in his hand

Thepeopleversuswork · 11/11/2022 20:15

FourTeaFallOut · 11/11/2022 17:58

Oh please, alpha 🙄

The only thing more tragic than a man calling himself alpha is the simpering fool on his arm.

This

BritishDesiGirl · 11/11/2022 20:41

Met plenty of men who think they are alpha males turns out they are arrogant pricks. Zero respect for anyone elses opinions particularly women's. Loud, brash, can't stand being wrong, belittle others and general knobs.

PickledRat · 11/11/2022 21:07

I’ve never met an alpha male, that might be because I’ve always worked in office roles and all the alphas are firefighters, in the army etc. I would consider someone like Ghengis Khan an alpha.

Alopeciabop · 11/11/2022 21:20

PortiasBiscuit · 11/11/2022 17:40

I married an alpha male, he is not a dickhead, he is a strong, kind, gentle man at the top of his game work wise.
He has confidence without arrogance and that gives him a real presence in any situation. He does not shoot his mouth off, he doesn’t boast, he doesn’t need to.
He is assertive without bullying, listens and offers advice when it is needed. He doesn’t mansplain and he respects women. He is a fantastic father.

He is also grumpy on occasions and getting a bit tubby, so not perfect. If I described him as an Alpha male he would laugh in my face.

This is what an alpha male is. I too married one.

I don’t know what your husband is like @PortiasBiscuit but I find that the alpha males I have been with (have a definite alpha type) are often quite lonely.

They support others, are usually in a leadership role even if not the actual boss. And people (especially younger staff) will look to them almost as a father figure type role. This makes it hard to just make friends as people often need something from them.

Bruce Willis has played the alpha male in many films hasn’t he? Heroic, smart, supportive, lonely.

Big, gym-hitting, loud-mouth man does not an alpha make.

purplepencilcase · 11/11/2022 21:21

Yes - i come from a family of them.

I prefer an Alpha male to a beta!!

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