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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think this was inappropriate work attire?

177 replies

Catchyouontheflipside · 09/11/2022 20:31

Dc’s school (not my place of work).

One of the teachers (year 1) was wearing a very short skirt and tights. The skirt barely covered her backside.

Nothing wrong with the outfit for outside of work, or a different work environment but something about it just seemed wrong in a primary school.

AIBU to think this isn’t really suitable for the classroom?

OP posts:
Yarrawonga · 10/11/2022 08:25

If barely arse covering minis are ok for a teacher or anyone else in a workplace then hot pants should also be ok, no?

My workplace seems to lack this “standard” dress code that has been mentioned. We have a six foot six overweight man who wears pinafore dresses.

I have occasionally worn short skirts, dresses and short shorts. It depends on the weather and what I am actually doing.

KimberleyClark · 10/11/2022 08:25

WinterLobelia · 10/11/2022 08:23

I don't have much of an opinion on the teacher's clothes in the OP.

But at our private school (which goes from prep right through) male teachers are required to wear suits and ties and the women must wear a jacket and a button up shirt. This is the UK. The official description in the handbook is 'formal business attire must be worn'. Maybe i am old fashioned but I like that. The children wear blazers and ties and the teachers model the same.

Are they allowed some leeway during hot summer weather?

crossstitchingnana · 10/11/2022 08:25

I agree that there should be work attire. A short skirt doesn't look professional.

WinterLobelia · 10/11/2022 08:28

KimberleyClark · 10/11/2022 08:25

Are they allowed some leeway during hot summer weather?

There is a 'blazers can be off' rule in the summer for both students and teachers. But it is actually announced to staff and students.

Yarrawonga · 10/11/2022 08:30

Maybe i am old fashioned but I like that

You aren’t that old fashioned. My husband’s school photos show the teachers (all male) all wearing black gowns. Apparently, that was normal, not just for photos.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 10/11/2022 09:19

Why were you looking at her arse, OP?

People with reasonably good eyesight will normally notice something as big as a person - and what they're wearing - without specifically looking.

Is this what we're saying now: that it's the fault of the person who sees somebody wearing/doing something inappropriate in public rather than the person for actually wearing/doing it? If we extend your logic, I presume you think that anybody who sees a flasher in the park is the pervert - and not the flasher himself?

CinderCellar · 10/11/2022 09:49

‘Barely covered her backside’ means it still did in fact go below her ‘backside’.

Even just the way you write this makes me cringe and feel embarrassed if you are yourself also a woman.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 10/11/2022 10:01

Are people genuinely claiming that they wouldn't think anything untoward at all of a male teacher who turned up for work job dressed like this - maybe if the shorts were made of a smarter material and the t-shirt had a collar and full-length sleeves, but otherwise the same fit (and smart shoes)? His bum and genitals are (just about) covered, so no problem at all, eh?

To think this was inappropriate work attire?
phishy · 10/11/2022 10:29

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 10/11/2022 10:01

Are people genuinely claiming that they wouldn't think anything untoward at all of a male teacher who turned up for work job dressed like this - maybe if the shorts were made of a smarter material and the t-shirt had a collar and full-length sleeves, but otherwise the same fit (and smart shoes)? His bum and genitals are (just about) covered, so no problem at all, eh?

  1. He is not wearing tights, she was
  2. her skirt does not outline her genitals, his shorts do
DaughterofZion · 10/11/2022 21:46

YANBU. It’s definitely inappropriate.
most of the comments supporting that outfit have probably never worked in a professional environment and so cannot recognise that there are dress codes for different occasions.
Can we bring back decorum please?

TiredMama05 · 10/11/2022 22:02

So long as my child is happy in school and enjoys learning, the teacher can wear what they want!

SleepingStandingUp · 10/11/2022 22:06

Tan tights so she flashes her pants every time she moves or thick black ones more like leggings?

I do think flashing her knickers is inappropriate, esp when we're teaching those 6 yo girls about PANTS

DobbleBobble · 10/11/2022 22:18

I get what you're saying, I taught for a couple of years and like to think I dressed professionally, smart casual. I'm not often at the kids schools and they don't have uniform (I have 2 boys who wear joggers and t-shirts so we would never get pulled up) but I do feel like the staff often look too casual to me.

happydivorcee · 10/11/2022 22:27

I’m a Primary teacher and I absolutely do not sit on the floor at work.

ellyeth · 10/11/2022 22:30

With thick woollen tights I think a short skirt looks quite smart. But really my feeling is that how someone dresses isn't that important. If she is a good teacher, who engages the children, and the children like her, surely that's the main thing?

I realise that some people see this as unprofessional - so it's just a matter of personal opinion really.

Everyflippingusernameistaken · 10/11/2022 22:38

I think it's inappropriate for a work environment. I also think it's inappropriate for women to wear very low cut tops for work. A couple of women at the Estate Agents where I used to work wore low tops, and one was overweight and had massive boobs. Also people had to go into her office and talk to her and when they were standing and she was sitting it looked awful. I found it a bit embarrassing, and no I'm not a prude. The other one worked behind the counter and the public had to come in to pay rent etc. so were standing there getting an eyeful. Very unprofessional.

Angelil · 10/11/2022 23:53

I have worked in primary and personally wouldn’t wear that as the work is often quite physical/practical: lots of bending, kneeling, being on the floor playing with children etc. It can’t be very comfortable/workable. So yes, I would notice and find the choice odd as the person is not dressed suitably for work in a purely practical sense.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 10/11/2022 23:56

We had a reception teacher who wore minis and stilettos! The kids sit on the floor a lot and she was a big lump, If she’d trodden on little fingers with the stiletto heel it would have gone through! Totally inappropriate. Wonder which dishy dad she was after…🤨

fairywhale · 11/11/2022 00:00

Doorpalms · 09/11/2022 22:20

I’m surprised by the answers, it’s standard for workplaces to have a dress code that includes wearing skirts of a modest length. Nothing to do with it being a primary school but short skirts aren’t very professional for any workplace

pray, young mistress what would you deem to be modest? Would it be the ankle length of the Victorian era or a latter judgement?

A burka more likely. How this word has crept into the language and so many women see nothing wrong with it.

Icecreamandapplepie · 11/11/2022 00:04

Genuine question- what if a male teacher rocked up in short shorts?

I don't think it's professional and I'm tired of the implication that asking anyone to dress professionally is seen as wierd.

I don't want to see anyone walking round in an outfit that barely covers their privates.

Laurie000 · 11/11/2022 00:50

YANBU I’m a year 1 teacher and get self conscious if I’ve ever worn a skirt or dress past my knees (not that any of the kids would see anything if they looked up. None existent thigh gap). Regardless if it’s inappropriate, in a year 1 classroom short skirts/dresses just aren’t practical. I wear leggings with long t-shirts and hoodies as I usually end up sat on the carpet with the kids.

SarahJane796 · 11/11/2022 05:10

Do we police what men wear? The issue is that society (and clothing shops) offer women and girls over sexualised clothes. And people still buy them, which just keeps the problem going. How many threads on here belittle feminism when we talk about girls wearing crop tops. Many women/ mums just tell people to calm down and it’s not a big deal.
yes, there are professional environments but still some of those expect women to wear high heels. Men get to wear comfy shoes every day.
I am sure this teacher is professional in her approach to the kids. And if she’s not then that’s the real issue. Stop policing what women wear and tackle the shops that sexualise clothing for 6 year old girls.

tash7779 · 11/11/2022 05:35

If she’s a year 1 teacher she will be bending down and kneeling down a lot. So yes a very short skirt is inappropriate.

B1993 · 11/11/2022 05:48

CatsEatDogs · 09/11/2022 21:01

My friend is a primary school teacher and her school are quite strict on things like this , eg no really short skirts, low cut tops or spaghetti straps etc. Maybe her school is unusual though, given responses from pp’s

I'm a primary teacher and we have a strict dress code policy too: skirts dresses have to be longer than the knee, no leggings or skinny fit trousers to be worn, sleeveless tops can't have thin straps so no bras/bra straps are showing in any way.

All of my other primary teacher friends (who work elsewhere) think it's far too OTT and militarian. I understand both sides as it's a professional environment and you need to dress as such. However, I had sooo many smart outfits that I could no longer wear when I started working there as they didn't fit the dress code. If I worse the outfits at any other professional work setting, no one would have bat an eyelid.

Hmm1234 · 11/11/2022 06:29

Could she of been a TA or on school placement lol