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AIBU?

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To think this was inappropriate work attire?

177 replies

Catchyouontheflipside · 09/11/2022 20:31

Dc’s school (not my place of work).

One of the teachers (year 1) was wearing a very short skirt and tights. The skirt barely covered her backside.

Nothing wrong with the outfit for outside of work, or a different work environment but something about it just seemed wrong in a primary school.

AIBU to think this isn’t really suitable for the classroom?

OP posts:
CurlyhairedAssassin · 09/11/2022 22:37

I wouldn't want to see any male members of staff in skimpy little shorts, so I don't see what's different to a female staff member in a very short skirt, even if she was wearing tights.

Even if we're not talking about whether it looks professional or not, it's certainly highly impractical in a primary school. In year 1 you will still spend lots of time crouching down to talk to very small children, or sitting an upset child on your knee for a few minutes, or even if you're just walking round the classroom your arse is basically at the level of a child's face if they're sitting at a desk. I mean, it's not very practical in so many ways and honestly as a parent, I would be looking at that teacher wondering how hands-on they actually are.

Jalepenojello · 09/11/2022 22:38

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 09/11/2022 22:33

I bet not one of the people on here suggesting that the teacher is being slut-shamed and even turning it back on to OP for 'looking at another woman's bum' as if she's some kind of perv would say nothing and pretend not to even notice if a male teacher turned up in extremely short shorts. To be honest, I'll bet plenty would quibble his level of professionalism even if he wore knee-length shorts or pedal pushers.

🙋‍♀️What is wrong with short shorts

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 09/11/2022 22:40

What is wrong with short shorts

When did you last see a male teacher wearing them?

Proamble · 09/11/2022 22:40

The OP hasn’t responded to any questions. This is a goady thread. Don’t give them the time of day.

larkstar · 09/11/2022 22:40

I worked with a deputy who wore a pink leather miniskirt with green fluorescent fishnets - she had 80's metal bleached blonde hair and was - lets just say - not young. She was brilliant. Not everyone's cup of tea. She had her faults but she was free thinking, imaginative, innovative - the kids worked well for her - everything was an art project - maths, science, ICT - all art projects - the kids that left that school went to the high school with a love of school, of learning and with pride in how their work looked. I worked with her. My kids went to the school. Don't be so shallow or stupid enough to judge anyone on how they dress - get to know them first.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 09/11/2022 22:42

SisterAgatha · 09/11/2022 22:36

short skirts aren’t very professional for any workplace

I had a couple of little minis I used to wear for work. Not tight but short and fitted. I remember saying to both male and female bosses - is this ok as I don’t want to be breaking any kind of dress code (yes we had one).

Female boss said ok with tights (I would ALWAYS have worn tights) and male boss said skirts should be as short as humanly possible. A lady in HR complimented me on it several times. So professionally there is some leeway too! Depends on how crappy the organisation is.

For a teacher who will be bending over I am surprised shes comfortable in it.

male boss said skirts should be as short as humanly possible. He really said that? That is creepy and unprofessional. And like something from the 70s.

Proamble · 09/11/2022 22:45

CurlyhairedAssassin · 09/11/2022 22:37

I wouldn't want to see any male members of staff in skimpy little shorts, so I don't see what's different to a female staff member in a very short skirt, even if she was wearing tights.

Even if we're not talking about whether it looks professional or not, it's certainly highly impractical in a primary school. In year 1 you will still spend lots of time crouching down to talk to very small children, or sitting an upset child on your knee for a few minutes, or even if you're just walking round the classroom your arse is basically at the level of a child's face if they're sitting at a desk. I mean, it's not very practical in so many ways and honestly as a parent, I would be looking at that teacher wondering how hands-on they actually are.

Ok, so I did say I wouldn’t be goaded, but the bottom is being covered by fabric. Are leggings ok? Are slim fitting trousers ok? Your arse will be at the level it is, unfortunately that’s due to the height you are in comparison with heights of the people you are teaching. Nobody is exposing their genitals. What is wrong with seeing an arse covered in fabric?

PinkArt · 09/11/2022 22:47

Yup, you got me there @RandomMusings7. Total pathetic peach. A happy social media kindness day to you too.
Look, whenever women get asked to cover up because 'it's distracting for the poor men' we rightly say that that is the men's issue to deal with not ours. It should be no different that the OP is presumably female. A skirt that barely covers a bum does cover a bum. So what's in view are some legs in tights. Personally I don't find that especially shocking.

Proamble · 09/11/2022 22:48

Jalepenojello · 09/11/2022 22:38

🙋‍♀️What is wrong with short shorts

I’m a child of the late 80s, we had male teachers who wore chino shorts. It was never an issue, I didn’t realise it could have been? What’s wrong with shorts? We wore skirts and shorts too?

AngryPrincess · 09/11/2022 22:48

I think people shouldn’t tell womem how to dress.

Brigante9 · 09/11/2022 22:50

Given our sixth form dress code specifies skirts to be no more than 2 inches above the knee, I imagine teachers should abide by that kind of guideline too? It isn’t very practical for a primary teacher to be in a very short figure hugging outfit. I find it a bit unfair that male members of staff are in suits but most female staff wear much more casual outfits in any school I’ve ever worked in.

echt · 09/11/2022 22:52

Catchyouontheflipside · 09/11/2022 20:31

Dc’s school (not my place of work).

One of the teachers (year 1) was wearing a very short skirt and tights. The skirt barely covered her backside.

Nothing wrong with the outfit for outside of work, or a different work environment but something about it just seemed wrong in a primary school.

AIBU to think this isn’t really suitable for the classroom?

If you're so exercised about what this person is wearing, why don't you go to the HT about it, though something about it just seemed wrong in a primary school is entirely inadequate as a reason*

They just don't teach critical thinking in schools. I blame the teachers.

Mariposista · 09/11/2022 22:53

Primary teachers spend so much time scrabbling about on the floor with the kids, playing games and sitting on tiny low down chairs that I can’t imagine she would be very comfortable in a short skirt!

BellePeppa · 09/11/2022 22:53

drpet49 · 09/11/2022 21:20

This. MN is so weird.

It certainly is. Many times I think I’ll stop reading because there are so many strange responses to posts but I find myself keep coming back 🤔

SammyScrounge · 09/11/2022 22:54

Jalepenojello · 09/11/2022 22:26

No idea about dress codes as I am not a teacher….but as a parent I wouldn’t notice or care and would go as far to say that I think in most cases, any parent judging a teachers style is baffling and frankly ridiculous

Nobody wants to see the teacher's knickers or a pupil's knickers for that matter. I'm surprised that you think you wouldn't notice that a.teacher had her skirt half way up her rear and kept tugging the hem down. I would notice and

echt · 09/11/2022 22:54

Brigante9 · 09/11/2022 22:50

Given our sixth form dress code specifies skirts to be no more than 2 inches above the knee, I imagine teachers should abide by that kind of guideline too? It isn’t very practical for a primary teacher to be in a very short figure hugging outfit. I find it a bit unfair that male members of staff are in suits but most female staff wear much more casual outfits in any school I’ve ever worked in.

It can't be said too often: teachers are not pupils. If the men are wearing suits, that's up to them.

Doorpalms · 09/11/2022 22:55

I find it a bit unfair that male members of staff are in suits but most female staff wear much more casual outfits in any school I’ve ever worked in

oh the poor men. Who will ever think of them in this world?!

SammyScrounge · 09/11/2022 22:57

would find it difficult to resist the urge to tell her to get a skirt just a bit longer which didn't require to be anchored in place.

Brigante9 · 09/11/2022 23:00

echt · 09/11/2022 22:54

It can't be said too often: teachers are not pupils. If the men are wearing suits, that's up to them.

Should teachers not model behaviour/standards? I’m repeatedly given literature from our Trust saying I should. To me, being dressed appropriately is in line with this. Most men wear suits: some are more chinos and casual shirts, but it’s not the norm in any school I’ve ever worked in.

Doorpalms · 09/11/2022 23:01

None of the male teachers at my primary wear suits. No-one wears suits anymore expect politicians and estate agents

echt · 09/11/2022 23:07

Brigante9 · 09/11/2022 23:00

Should teachers not model behaviour/standards? I’m repeatedly given literature from our Trust saying I should. To me, being dressed appropriately is in line with this. Most men wear suits: some are more chinos and casual shirts, but it’s not the norm in any school I’ve ever worked in.

Dressing appropriately should be a dress code matter for the school, not a set of assumed standards. The give-away is your "for me", you're making huge, quite personal assumptions about what's appropriate.

Having been in on the devising of a school's dress code, I can vouch for its being far from common-sense, as the term so often encompasses what is mere prejudice.

Teachers' behaviour is to professional standards, not a model for students. Though some points might coincide, they should not be the basis.

echt · 09/11/2022 23:08

The last "they" refers to modelling for students.

LuciferRising · 09/11/2022 23:17

AngryPrincess · 09/11/2022 22:48

I think people shouldn’t tell womem how to dress.

Does this extend to men too?

Ericaequites · 09/11/2022 23:17

Both teachers and secondary students should wear skirts no more than 2” above the knee because it’s a professional space, not a nightclub. I should not be able to stand behind a woman and discern the type and color knickers she is wearing. Thongs are unwholesome and should not be worn.

echt · 09/11/2022 23:19

LuciferRising · 09/11/2022 23:17

Does this extend to men too?

For me, yes.

Teachers' dress is a dress code matter.

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