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Am I overreacting or is that outrageous?

178 replies

Terrysnotmine · 09/11/2022 11:36

In a shop near me

Am I overreacting or is that outrageous?
OP posts:
Mosaic123 · 09/11/2022 12:11

I think a responsible shop owner would not have written this in case it might cause offence.

(I wouldn't buy anything from this shop due to this notice).

CloudybutMild · 09/11/2022 12:13

Mosaic123 · 09/11/2022 12:11

I think a responsible shop owner would not have written this in case it might cause offence.

(I wouldn't buy anything from this shop due to this notice).

What’s offensive about it though?

BabyShaark · 09/11/2022 12:20

I’m German and I’m not offended.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/11/2022 12:22

Mosaic123 · 09/11/2022 12:11

I think a responsible shop owner would not have written this in case it might cause offence.

(I wouldn't buy anything from this shop due to this notice).

Problem is, who knows what might cause offence? there are billions of people out there and they'll all have something that offends them. Wasn't it Stephen Fry who said you have no right not to be offended?

PuppyMonkey · 09/11/2022 12:23

I think you are still allowed to call them Nazis if they are actually Nazis. Aren’t you?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/11/2022 12:23

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/11/2022 12:22

Problem is, who knows what might cause offence? there are billions of people out there and they'll all have something that offends them. Wasn't it Stephen Fry who said you have no right not to be offended?

And I'd be more annoyed about the rogue apostrophe and be muttering 'Nazi's WHAT?'

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 09/11/2022 12:24

@CloudybutMild the apostrophe Grin

Zosime · 09/11/2022 12:24

But they could have just written, 'Please do not touch' 'Please do not touch the model/WW1 reenactment etc etc'

WW1?? I hope that's a typo.

girlmom21 · 09/11/2022 12:27

cupoftea33 · 09/11/2022 11:57

...it's to the point I'll give it that.
But they could have just written, 'Please do not touch' 'Please do not touch the model/WW1 reenactment etc etc'

Or "All broken Nazis must be paid for" 🤷🏻‍♀️

People are less likely to touch if you specifically say what they shouldn't be touching.

Some knob will say "I didn't touch the main model" if you say not to touch the model.

withlotsoflove · 09/11/2022 12:31

are they calling themselves “ Nazi” ?

MrKlaw · 09/11/2022 12:32

Literal grammar Nazi's

DrManhattan · 09/11/2022 12:32

Oh ffs

Testina · 09/11/2022 12:33

user1473878824 · 09/11/2022 11:37

The apostrophe? Yes.

A table display of a battle field and not being asked to touch certain models that clearly people have been? No.

Love your response! Your first line was my first thought - and you already nailed it 👏🏻

HuggsBosom · 09/11/2022 12:35

CloudybutMild · 09/11/2022 11:59

No, the Axis powers were fought and defeated by the Western Allies, of which “we” (as in the British Empire) were part.

Is teaching of history really this bad nowadays?

You're deluded I'm afraid. I deplore Russia right now but don't take credit for their win:

"The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writes British historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army.""

ShouldntHaveBeenSoHasty · 09/11/2022 12:36

A general “do not touch” would have sufficed, I guess, unless it was kids playing with them and the shop owners wanted to point out they were Nazi soldiers so not really something to make a kids game out of.

jimjamy · 09/11/2022 12:36

Perhaps it's a work of art called 'THE NAZI'S THANK YOU!'

CloudybutMild · 09/11/2022 12:37

HuggsBosom · 09/11/2022 12:35

You're deluded I'm afraid. I deplore Russia right now but don't take credit for their win:

"The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writes British historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army.""

No, not deluded, just, it seems, better educated than you.

To pretend that the win was only by one nation is just ignorant. It was an effort by many.

Flyinggeesei234 · 09/11/2022 12:38

OP can you explain why you felt outraged?

Mirabai · 09/11/2022 12:40

CloudybutMild · 09/11/2022 11:59

No, the Axis powers were fought and defeated by the Western Allies, of which “we” (as in the British Empire) were part.

Is teaching of history really this bad nowadays?

Apparently it’s so bad that people are unaware that WWII was essentially lost on Eastern front where the Soviets decimated the Wehrmacht. Their involvement divided German forces between Red Army in the east and the Allies in the west, outnumbered on both.

HuggsBosom · 09/11/2022 12:41

CloudybutMild · 09/11/2022 12:37

No, not deluded, just, it seems, better educated than you.

To pretend that the win was only by one nation is just ignorant. It was an effort by many.

You mean you were educated by the textbooks written by British revisionists.

Read a book once in a while.

Homewardbound2022 · 09/11/2022 12:41

cupoftea33 · 09/11/2022 11:57

...it's to the point I'll give it that.
But they could have just written, 'Please do not touch' 'Please do not touch the model/WW1 reenactment etc etc'

Or "All broken Nazis must be paid for" 🤷🏻‍♀️

😂

HuggsBosom · 09/11/2022 12:42

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This message has been withdrawn at the poster's request

CloudybutMild · 09/11/2022 12:44

HuggsBosom · 09/11/2022 12:41

You mean you were educated by the textbooks written by British revisionists.

Read a book once in a while.

I’m not British, was not educated in Britain, and my family lived under the Nazi occupation, so no, you are wrong on all fronts there.

You really aren’t doing very well here, and seem quite angry as well as quite prejudiced.

Mirabai · 09/11/2022 12:45

HuggsBosom · 09/11/2022 12:35

You're deluded I'm afraid. I deplore Russia right now but don't take credit for their win:

"The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writes British historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army.""

Yep. The Red Army learnt fast from Wehrmacht tactics and ultimately used those tactics to destroy them.

Testina · 09/11/2022 12:45

Mosaic123 · 09/11/2022 12:11

I think a responsible shop owner would not have written this in case it might cause offence.

(I wouldn't buy anything from this shop due to this notice).

Offence to whom, and for what?
Why would you boycott because of it?
Could you explain exactly what your issue is?
If the display was the Battle of Waterloo, would you mind if it said, “please don’t touch the Hussars” (or Hussar’s 🫣)

Is your point that not all German soldiers were paid up Nazi party members?

I’d give you the point for pedantry on accuracy - but still not call it offensive.

There’s a lot written about Gleichschaltung and the relationship between the state and the Wermacht. But, as early as 1934 the Wermacht was giving Jewish soldiers dishonourable discharge.

If you are not a member of the Nazi party, but you perform their (horrific) directive, are you not a Nazi? Are you “just following orders”?

I’ll give you that one of those figures may have been a German conscript who found the regime abhorrent. Equally, the tableau could be fully signed up party members.