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AIBU to think when staying in hotel should not go down to breakfast in pyjamas

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waltty · 05/11/2022 16:52

Last night stayed overnight in a City Centre hotel and a family all came down to breakfast wearing their pyjamas,looking like they had all jumped out of bed , it was 9am so still had time to shower and dress before breakfast finished , AIBU to think this is not appropriate

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IrmaGord · 06/11/2022 11:50

I have a standard, and that's trying not to behave like a supercilious, judgemental cunt who looks down their nose at others for no reason. It's worked fine for me for fifty years

I love it when people try and claim the moral high ground by calling anyone who disagrees with them a cunt. Fab standards right there!

Sparklingbrook · 06/11/2022 11:52

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/11/2022 11:40

Personally not for me but I’ve seen lots of children in all sorts of hotels in pyjamas. Seems sensible actually, especially for little ones who get messy. No skin off my nose.

I probably wouldn’t judge small children in pjs at breakfast. Or maybe elsewhere in the hotel. The whole family though, that’s the difference.

DoraSpenlow · 06/11/2022 11:53

SocksAndTheCity · 06/11/2022 11:40

So it's possible to determine not only a total strangers 'standards' (whatever that means) but also their upbringing based essentially on within which department of a shop the t-shirt and pair of gathered waist trousers they are wearing were purchased?

I have a standard, and that's trying not to behave like a supercilious, judgemental cunt who looks down their nose at others for no reason. It's worked fine for me for fifty years.

For crying out loud. If you are not able to see that clothing has been slept in there is no hope. No hope at all.

And, yes, it is possible to see someones standards by looking at them. My mum would never have let us go to breakfast in a hotel in our pyjamas. Not that we were ever to afford a hotel, but I know it would not have been acceptable.

DoraSpenlow · 06/11/2022 11:56

Lemons1571 · 06/11/2022 11:38

But what if the hotel is your temporary home? People in al kinds of situations are housed in travelodges and premier inns. By the NHS when discharged from hospital, by the council, by insurance companies when the people have lost their home due to flood or fire. It’s hard. Really hard. You all seem to be assuming that this family are purposely staying in this hotel for leisure reasons.

The vast majority of people are staying in hotels for leisure purposes.

Sparklingbrook · 06/11/2022 12:04

We could ask @waltty if they knew why the family were staying there but they’ve disappeared after the op -no further info given, letting the bun fight commence!

BeanyBops · 06/11/2022 12:13

I'd think it was awful. Maybe I am a snob! But I'd not want to be anywhere near some random in their pyjamas with their morning breath and unshowered skin. I'd also be really annoyed that the hotel didn't challenge them on it unless it was a crappy hotel for some reason.

CuriousCatfish · 06/11/2022 12:28

BeanyBops · 06/11/2022 12:13

I'd think it was awful. Maybe I am a snob! But I'd not want to be anywhere near some random in their pyjamas with their morning breath and unshowered skin. I'd also be really annoyed that the hotel didn't challenge them on it unless it was a crappy hotel for some reason.

How do you know people who are dressed have showered skin?

takemetomars · 06/11/2022 12:32

BabyClubYEEAAH · 05/11/2022 17:26

Literally no one in real life cares about stuff like this

Not just mumsnet people, I don't know anyone who thinks this is ok

liveforsummer · 06/11/2022 12:40

We are not talking about camping though are we ? God I hate it when people make such stupid comparisons

I mean it's no more stupid than some of the comparisons in the other side of the argument. Actually it's far more relevant as both semi public holiday stays, I say semi as you'll be mixing only with other people who have paid to stay or are staff there, where people will have shared areas but are still expected to be 'decent' outside of the own private space. Some people wouldn't dream of emerging from their tent to cook breakfast until dressed where as others will roll out in their pj's. Obviously it's not the same as facilities are communal but way less daft than say the drinking and shouting at the theatre, police attending work in onsies or dc attending school in pyjamas which bear absolutely no relevance at all. Way more stupid a comparison.

WombatChocolate · 06/11/2022 12:43

Isn’t it just about being able to judge the difference between what is appropriate in the privacy if your own home and the difference if being in public.

In your own home, do what you like. Run around naked all day if you choose. In public, recognise that there are other people around and some things you might do at home probably aren’t best for the world to see. It’s an appreciation and respect for other people.

Some other examples of things many people do in their own homes but would think twice about doing in public might be; farting loudly and freely, burping, nose picking, scratching private areas, cutting toenails, shaving legs, having a face pack or waxing, maybe having a wee with the door open. None of them are wrong, but they are private things - no-one else needs to see you do them and doing them in front of others is inconsiderate.

It’s as simple as being aware and respectful of others vs deciding you can do exactly what you want because you feel like you’re the only person in the world and don’t need to ever think about others. It’s either a total lack of awareness of others or making Ana Clive choice to disregard others and do what you want.

If you saw me in my PJs, you’d see my unfettered boobs and probably more flesh than you’d want to see. At home, it’s fine for me to be like that with my family. It’s not fine for the public and I have respect for myself and also consideration for others in choosing to be dressed before I go into public. Likewise, I might pick my nose at home, but I do t do it in public as it would be unpleasant for others. I don’t decide that I will do whatever I like, whenever I like without thinking of others.

liveforsummer · 06/11/2022 12:47

WombatChocolate · 06/11/2022 12:43

Isn’t it just about being able to judge the difference between what is appropriate in the privacy if your own home and the difference if being in public.

In your own home, do what you like. Run around naked all day if you choose. In public, recognise that there are other people around and some things you might do at home probably aren’t best for the world to see. It’s an appreciation and respect for other people.

Some other examples of things many people do in their own homes but would think twice about doing in public might be; farting loudly and freely, burping, nose picking, scratching private areas, cutting toenails, shaving legs, having a face pack or waxing, maybe having a wee with the door open. None of them are wrong, but they are private things - no-one else needs to see you do them and doing them in front of others is inconsiderate.

It’s as simple as being aware and respectful of others vs deciding you can do exactly what you want because you feel like you’re the only person in the world and don’t need to ever think about others. It’s either a total lack of awareness of others or making Ana Clive choice to disregard others and do what you want.

If you saw me in my PJs, you’d see my unfettered boobs and probably more flesh than you’d want to see. At home, it’s fine for me to be like that with my family. It’s not fine for the public and I have respect for myself and also consideration for others in choosing to be dressed before I go into public. Likewise, I might pick my nose at home, but I do t do it in public as it would be unpleasant for others. I don’t decide that I will do whatever I like, whenever I like without thinking of others.

I'd be horrified if anyone did any of those things in a hotel restaurant including the pyjama situation, however op didn't mention that there was lots of skin and exposed breasts so I'm going to assume they were more traditional pyjamas that cover everything- something I doubt I'd even notice or register, let alone judge or be disgusted.

pbdr · 06/11/2022 12:56

While it's not something I would ever do, I seriously cannot understand the absolute horror and despair from some posters. It's literally just some people wearing clothes that are not a social norm for attending a hotel breakfast in. How you can muster up a stronger reaction than a raised eyebrow I don't know.

liveforsummer · 06/11/2022 12:59

pbdr · 06/11/2022 12:56

While it's not something I would ever do, I seriously cannot understand the absolute horror and despair from some posters. It's literally just some people wearing clothes that are not a social norm for attending a hotel breakfast in. How you can muster up a stronger reaction than a raised eyebrow I don't know.

This has been my point. The strength of reaction doesn't seem rational to me

TheDogsMother · 06/11/2022 13:00

I would be really shocked if I saw this. Have they got no standards ? Have a shower and put proper clothes on !!

spaceshiptrain · 06/11/2022 13:01

I can't see why it's bothered you. Are you able to explain? I'm very interested in why you could possibly care?

Sparklingbrook · 06/11/2022 13:05

In the absence of the OP posting anything further I envisage this sort of thing.

AIBU to think when staying in hotel should not go down to breakfast in pyjamas
malmi · 06/11/2022 13:11

Who would have thought, this is as divisive as whether people sit or stand to wipe their bums!

Sparklingbrook · 06/11/2022 13:14

malmi · 06/11/2022 13:11

Who would have thought, this is as divisive as whether people sit or stand to wipe their bums!

Mercifully people don't do that in full view of the public eating their full English.Grin

StarbucksSmarterSister · 06/11/2022 14:41

I would guess that about 99% of hotels in the world do not offer room service breakfast as an option

Almost every hotel I've stayed in, even 3 star hotels, UK and abroad, has offered it for breakfast, even if not for other meals.

liveforsummer · 06/11/2022 14:43

StarbucksSmarterSister · 06/11/2022 14:41

I would guess that about 99% of hotels in the world do not offer room service breakfast as an option

Almost every hotel I've stayed in, even 3 star hotels, UK and abroad, has offered it for breakfast, even if not for other meals.

Well I wish I'd known. I'd love a buffet breakfast delivered to my room. I'll ask in future because they certainly dont advertise it.

Wafflesnsniffles · 06/11/2022 14:47

Totally inappropriate I think. It takes just a few minutes to get dressed. If doing that is too much how did you manage to make it to the hotel? Pjs are for bedrooms and being at home!

Wafflesnsniffles · 06/11/2022 14:51

As for the suggestion they might be naturists (as someone upthread commented) - well then they would have gone down to breakfast naked wouldnt they, not in pjs.

People with sensory issues....... Unless they go to work in their pjs, go out for the evening in their pjs - are just as capable as wearing daytime clothes for breakfast in a hotel.

No one school age up should be wandering about public spaces in pjs imho. - not unless enroute to hospital or standing outside their house cos its burning down!

DoraSpenlow · 06/11/2022 15:44

WombatChocolate · 06/11/2022 12:43

Isn’t it just about being able to judge the difference between what is appropriate in the privacy if your own home and the difference if being in public.

In your own home, do what you like. Run around naked all day if you choose. In public, recognise that there are other people around and some things you might do at home probably aren’t best for the world to see. It’s an appreciation and respect for other people.

Some other examples of things many people do in their own homes but would think twice about doing in public might be; farting loudly and freely, burping, nose picking, scratching private areas, cutting toenails, shaving legs, having a face pack or waxing, maybe having a wee with the door open. None of them are wrong, but they are private things - no-one else needs to see you do them and doing them in front of others is inconsiderate.

It’s as simple as being aware and respectful of others vs deciding you can do exactly what you want because you feel like you’re the only person in the world and don’t need to ever think about others. It’s either a total lack of awareness of others or making Ana Clive choice to disregard others and do what you want.

If you saw me in my PJs, you’d see my unfettered boobs and probably more flesh than you’d want to see. At home, it’s fine for me to be like that with my family. It’s not fine for the public and I have respect for myself and also consideration for others in choosing to be dressed before I go into public. Likewise, I might pick my nose at home, but I do t do it in public as it would be unpleasant for others. I don’t decide that I will do whatever I like, whenever I like without thinking of others.

@WombatChocolate The voice of sense and reason. Great post.

OohMrBingley · 06/11/2022 16:00

Wafflesnsniffles · 06/11/2022 14:51

As for the suggestion they might be naturists (as someone upthread commented) - well then they would have gone down to breakfast naked wouldnt they, not in pjs.

People with sensory issues....... Unless they go to work in their pjs, go out for the evening in their pjs - are just as capable as wearing daytime clothes for breakfast in a hotel.

No one school age up should be wandering about public spaces in pjs imho. - not unless enroute to hospital or standing outside their house cos its burning down!

LOL, I made those comments - you misunderstood.

Someone was accusing people of being ‘snobby and judgmental’, and then went on to say ‘as long as they’re wearing clothes’, which only proved she had standards of her own.

Why are her standards any better of worse than anyone else’s.

’As long as they’re wearing clothes’. Well, why?

If her point was - don’t be snobby and judgmental, you have no idea what might be going on in their lives, leave them to it, they’re not impacting on you - then exactly the same could be said of someone choosing not to wear clothes.

We have no idea why they might have chosen not to wear clothes (they might be naturists, they might have sensory issues - be accepting and understanding).

She clearly expects people to be wearing clothes - well, other people (me, for sure!) expect people to get changed out of the pyjamas.

If the latter is ridiculous because it’s ‘snobby and judgmental’ and we should’ve have any issue with it because it doesn’t affect us - then expecting people to even get dressed at all is ‘ridiculous’.

In other words, the viewpoint doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, and we all have an expectation of others and their behaviour/attire.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 06/11/2022 16:15

Most room service has a reduced menu.

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