Mexican-themed NYE party - racist, right?

[BobLobla]

Just been invited by very good friends to their NYE party which promises to have a Mexican theme and everyone must wear a long droopy moustache and a sombrero. Already I am cringing as I think this is pretty racist. Don't think I’ll go… but do I say something privately to my friends about the fact that this seems really off? Do I just dip out and not say anything to avoid awkwardness?

Same here can't quite believe all I have just read

Its all performative bullshit. They hear something and regurgitate it without knowing why.

Don't get me wrong if the party was a Muslim theme and they had to wear a hijab and a suicide vest they'd have a point but this Mexican themed party is coming from a good place its not like they're mocking Mexicans or even using a harmful stereotype like the above one in relation to Muslims.

Give it a rest ffs

Love this video

Or alternatively you’re wearing a hat that is sold to tourists in Mexico by Mexicans! I’ve never seen a Mexican in Mexico saying - “don't buy that hat, it’s perpetuators a stereo type, I will not take your money you racist bastard”

I despair, are you Mexican? If not how dare you don’t you think it’s a bit of a white saviour complex to go round suggesting how another culture feels? You do realise that Mexican people can speak for themselves don’t you?

there seems to be a certain group of people intent on being offended on behalf of other people. Ironically this pseudo offence is often the most offensive thing to the very group Offended from Chiswick thinks they’re standing up for.

Exactly!

Better tell those Mexicans who run restaurants to stop giving sombreros out to guests as it's offensive to their own culture...you tell em.

Or maybe, just maybe, they actually aren't offended.

Nobody actually believes that Scottish people always wear kilts and see you Jimmy hats and carry bagpipes and say "och aye the noo" but of course that's how you'd dress up as one. Who would give a shit? Cos I wouldn't as a Scottish person. It's a laugh.

Haya. Slavic here.
Mot all white people were opressors. Some of us were very much the opressed.
The word slave literally comes from opression of group of white people.
Because there is very much a hierarchy of whitness.

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Yup

OMG, are you kidding?? Is this a joke??

👀 it does seem completely implausible to me. I suspect the OP is being set up.

I can't believe so many posters believe it and are getting het up by it.

I’m guessing they aren’t Mexican? If not, this is crappy. The dress code is the stupid bit, celebrating another culture is fine but not characterising the people. Why do people insist on doing stuff like this still

So let me get this right. List of things that apparently should be banned according to Mumsnet

moustaches
Sombreros
berets
tacos
dreadlocks
vaginas
straw donkeys
certain combinations of colours
words that indicate the existence of women in their own right
a sense of humour
a sense of proportion
brexit
boris Johnson
national dress
critical thinking
religion
woo
monty python
peppa pig
bootcut jeans
names beginning with k
laughing

MN approved things that logically are cultural appropriation (if it existed) but apparently are fine

yoga
dressing as a witch (unless you are a practising witch when you can obviously be ridiculed by half of MN)
celebrating Christmas/Easter if not christian
nativity plays
most religions (which are a mish mash of other religions which often times were turned on their heads)
regurgitating meaningless soundbites
skinny jeans (firmly belong to 80s rockers)
wearing the skin of dead animals (well fluffy cute ones - no, cows- yes)
4x4 - speed bumps is not off-roading - let the farmers keep their culture.
all things French

She must have skipped the Halloween parties, after all they’re American, carved pumpkins are cultural appropriation, maybe not racist but making fun of paganism that for sure.

White people have been slaves. So I would say historically we have been oppressed

@OMG12 you've forgotten surfing. Totes cultural appropriation from the Polynesians and look at all the white guys winning the competitions now. Shocking.

She must have skipped the Halloween parties, after all they’re American, carved pumpkins are cultural appropriation, maybe not racist but making fun of paganism that for sure

Ahem. They nicked those from the Scots and Irish. So any lefty white woke American should be hanging their heads in shame for participating. I think? Is that how it works?

Sorry, but you can't be racist towards white people. Racism requires historical oppression, otherwise it is just be prejudicial.

Centuries of oppression by English monarchs/governments against non-Anglicans in Ireland finally confirmed as racism on MN!!

@Scianel Ahem. They nicked those from the Scots and Irish. So any lefty white woke American should be hanging their heads in shame for participating. I think? Is that how it works?

i’m pretty sure the Scots and irish nicked those from the vikings . Everybody nicks here. cultural appropriation has been going on for centuries. We have no imagination.

This

If you are white, or white passing, you still benefit from white privilege and if you can't see this then you are part of the problem.

If you believe that CRT is real sure.

So Frida Kahlo represents Mexican culture but the sombrero and moustache doesn’t ? I’m lost here. A party host asking everyone to come dressed as Frida Kahlo is as weird as asking everyone to come dressed in a sombrero and moustache.

i’m pretty sure the Scots and irish nicked those from the vikings . Everybody nicks here. cultural appropriation has been going on for centuries. We have no imagination

True. Thank goodness the "white passing" have now been taught the error of their ways and can henceforth dwell in some sort of cultural stasis. I'm not quite sure what that will consist of seeing as everything is either cultural appropriation or colonialism. Perhaps endless Drag Queen Story Hour performances, since appropriating womanhood is the one thing that's absolutely fine to do?

TreadLight · Yesterday 17:23

Sorry, but you can't be racist towards white people. Racism requires historical oppression, otherwise it is just be prejudicial.

I don't agree. It is extremely important in the prevention of ongoing racism or the spread of new forms of racism to be vigilant about how it is currently occurring. It is the oppression of another due to their race or skin colour, regardless of history. The first time white people enslaved black people was racist. It didn't require a history.

If we demand a history then we are condoning the first episode of racism and the second because it has no precedence and therefore can't be an issue. The first act of racism - of oppressing another due to their race or colour is racism. If it is happening now, it needs no historical precedence. The first time a group of Asian men decides little girls can be their sex slaves because they are only white and therefore disposable trash - that is racism.

Racism is active and mobile not historical and set in stone. If we decide it is anything else we are choosing to close our eyes to how it evolves and perpetuates.

I don’t think drag queens appropriate womanhood in any way or form unless your idea of woman hood is Marilyn Monroe singing “happy birthday mr president “ on steroids.

Only if you are the desirable white

www.ihrc.org.uk/brexit-and-the-hierarchies-of-europeanness/

In Britain, class has a more significant impact on individuals than race ever does!