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AIBU?

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To think this woman was weird on the plane?

201 replies

ChicagoNoie · 05/11/2022 08:26

Long haul back to London, overhead bin above me was full so I put it in the one opposite.

Woman behind me seemingly annoyed by this as she said challengingly that she wanted to put her bag in there. Then made me move my bag to the centre of the bin with a patronising “is that ok?” And put her bag in …

Then walked off to sit in her seat 4 rows away from the overhead bin. So no more entitled to use it than I was.

Aibu to think this is just odd, like she could have just placed her bag in the centre and left me alone?

Even when we left and she walked by down to get her bag she was smiling at me smugly.

OP posts:
CarefreeMe · 05/11/2022 11:30

Stop with this nonsense. I'm guessing when you were a little girl and other girls were being mean that you were told it's because you're pretty?

Most women have experienced a female being nasty to them simply because they are jealous, obviously you are in the minority if it’s never happened to you.

You don’t need to look like a supermodel either.
Some women are insecure and take that out on women who they think are slightly prettier or younger then them, even if the other person would disagree.

Some women see other women as threats, it’s probably why women will often blame the OW more than their own DH if he’s been having an affair.

It happens all of the time.

You can usually tell as the women will go out of her way to try and start an argument with you by making comments or ‘accidentally’ pushing into you, to try and make you react.

There was no reason why this women acted the way she did and it sounds like she just had an issue with the OP for no reason - that sounds like jealousy.

JudgeJ · 05/11/2022 11:31

LadyHarmby · 05/11/2022 08:54

All you can do is laugh at her. I would have, openly.

I love to use laughter as a response to idiots, it always winds them up even more.
On a flight in the US I once put my camera bag and a small handbag in the overhead bin, a woman yelled at me that I was only allowed one piece of luggage in the bin. I pulled a carrier bag from somewhere, put them both in it and replaced in exactly the same space! She then asked my husband to lift her enormous carry on into the bin.
On another trip a woman was trying to wedge her huge carry on into the bin, she argued with staff and said she was touring Europe and only wanted to have carry on. A lot of friends of Ryanair had a good laugh at that.

CookPassBabtridge · 05/11/2022 11:32

Some people are twats OP and like confrontation instead of annoying it like most of us. Just take a breath, laugh and think how negative her existence must be. Then forget!

CookPassBabtridge · 05/11/2022 11:32

avoiding*

maranella · 05/11/2022 11:33

You always get one OP.

We had the misfortune to travel via Eurostar in July. Our seats were at the end of the carriage and some bellend, who was clearly sitting elsewhere, had dumped their pushchair in the luggage space above our seats, which I couldn't see initially when I was trying to get our bags up there, but I could feel an obstruction. So I stood further back and said to my DC 'Oh, someone's dumped a pushchair up there, no wonder I can't get our bags up there'.

So this woman, about three rows in front, leaps out of her seat, clearly spoiling for a fight, and says very loudly 'We have a CHILD, that's why we have a pushchair!'. I just looked her in the eye and said 'Congratulations on your CHILD, now could you please store your pushchair above your own seats?'. She looked like she wanted to murder me, but I held her gaze and her male partner then came and moved the pushchair. I appreciate it was hellishly hot and the way the French load Eurostars is deliberately designed to be uber stressful, particularly when you have small DC with you, but you don't have to be an arsehole to your fellow travellers.

rookiemere · 05/11/2022 11:33

Yes I was going to ask, was her bag a carry on ?

I read here - I think it was - that some people genuinely believe that only those with carry on suitcases are entitled to use the overhead lockers, whereas those of us who pay for luggage should squeeze our handbags and coats under the seat.

CarefreeMe · 05/11/2022 11:33

Also many men will see an attractive women and treat her unkindly too.

Again it’s a jealousy thing.

KettrickenSmiled · 05/11/2022 11:33

You should have refused to move your bag OP, & gone in with all huns blazing.

JudgeJ · 05/11/2022 11:34

PassThePringles · 05/11/2022 09:22

But yes, the weird altercation would have been annoying but her unwarranted smug attitude would just make me think she has issues, it's her being weird. Luckily you don't need to deal with her nonsense again.

Why do some people always try and make excuses for vile people? What did we used to say before someone invented 'issues'? Maybe her 'issue' was being a nasty, bullying piece of work.

Mybestyear · 05/11/2022 11:35

Edgarj7674 · 05/11/2022 08:56

I feel like “being held at hun point” should be a phrase.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

MelvinThePenguin · 05/11/2022 11:35

Someone’s got the username HeldAtHunPoint. Got in quicker than I did! 😆

DarkKarmaIlama · 05/11/2022 11:36

Oh she sounded like she was full of bad energy and vibes. Her problem not yours. Thing with these sorts of people is somewhere along the line they meet their match, many many times over. They are not light hearted in spirit, probably lives a life full of turmoil.

Thisisanewone81 · 05/11/2022 11:36

Had you been on holiday or work Op?

how long ago did this happen?

littlegreenheart · 05/11/2022 11:37

Probably she spotted the empty space and decided it was "hers" and you moved in unfairly to take it away from her because you were closer or quicker and she didn't have the mental capacity to back up and look for another empty space. But even if she'd been assigned the seat underneath, she's not entitled to a specific space in the overhead compartments. If she couldn't find space a flight attendant would eventually have moved some things around to get hers in somewhere. I'm usually vague with people like that, e.g., "sorry, I think this bin is full." Or just leave her to try to add hers without removing yours.

Theblacksheepandme · 05/11/2022 11:38

CarefreeMe · 05/11/2022 11:30

Stop with this nonsense. I'm guessing when you were a little girl and other girls were being mean that you were told it's because you're pretty?

Most women have experienced a female being nasty to them simply because they are jealous, obviously you are in the minority if it’s never happened to you.

You don’t need to look like a supermodel either.
Some women are insecure and take that out on women who they think are slightly prettier or younger then them, even if the other person would disagree.

Some women see other women as threats, it’s probably why women will often blame the OW more than their own DH if he’s been having an affair.

It happens all of the time.

You can usually tell as the women will go out of her way to try and start an argument with you by making comments or ‘accidentally’ pushing into you, to try and make you react.

There was no reason why this women acted the way she did and it sounds like she just had an issue with the OP for no reason - that sounds like jealousy.

Do you actually like women because from all of what you just said it sure doesn't sound like it?

Jewel7 · 05/11/2022 11:43

She wanted to be in control of that situation. Sounds like you let her. Was she older than you? Maybe she thought she could have the upper hand. Have a look at reading up on how to be more assertive.

ChicagoNoie · 05/11/2022 11:47

Thisisanewone81 · 05/11/2022 11:36

Had you been on holiday or work Op?

how long ago did this happen?

… why?

It was work and holiday. It happened yesterday.

OP posts:
katepilar · 05/11/2022 11:47

Yes, she was being weird and unnecessarily creating a confrontation. Would bother me too.

CarefreeMe · 05/11/2022 11:48

Do you actually like women because from all of what you just said it sure doesn't sound like it?

What a ridiculous comment.

jetadore · 05/11/2022 11:48

MintyGreenDreams · 05/11/2022 11:23

@jetadore did you make them move?

@MintyGreenDreams yeh, we showed our boarding cards and he pretended he’d misread row 18 as row 15 🤔

GeneParmesanPrivateEye · 05/11/2022 11:52

Hun point. Excellent.

@ChicagoNoie , how do you feel becoming part of mumsnet history?!

Thisisanewone81 · 05/11/2022 11:53

ChicagoNoie · 05/11/2022 11:47

… why?

It was work and holiday. It happened yesterday.

Just the idea of coming back from a long haul holiday yesterday, and morning after… furiously beavering away on a mumsnet thread you started whinging about an ultimately very trivial issue re flight back.

Holiday didn’t exactly… relax you, did it?

ChicagoNoie · 05/11/2022 11:54

Jewel7 · 05/11/2022 11:43

She wanted to be in control of that situation. Sounds like you let her. Was she older than you? Maybe she thought she could have the upper hand. Have a look at reading up on how to be more assertive.

It’s very easy to say be more assertive but in situations where it takes you off guard then it’s different.

The conversation went like this (bear in mind I assumed wrongly that she was about to sit in the empty seat below the bin so I felt a bit bad I’d potentially taken her space)

Her: Ooooh! I wanted to put my bag in there! stares
Me: Sorry, the one above me was full.
continues to stare
Her: Well can’t you move yours to the centre?
I slide the bag over
Her: Is that ok??! (Said in patronising voice)

I only apologised because I’m British it’s drilled into me and because like I said I thought I’d taken the space above her seat.

What would you have done/said differently? Also there were a couple of people already sat down watching us and I felt being difficult would cause a scene in a place where none of us are leaving any time soon.

OP posts:
ChicagoNoie · 05/11/2022 11:55

Thisisanewone81 · 05/11/2022 11:53

Just the idea of coming back from a long haul holiday yesterday, and morning after… furiously beavering away on a mumsnet thread you started whinging about an ultimately very trivial issue re flight back.

Holiday didn’t exactly… relax you, did it?

Crazy plane lady is that you?

OP posts:
MadelineUsher · 05/11/2022 11:56

Thisisanewone81 · 05/11/2022 11:53

Just the idea of coming back from a long haul holiday yesterday, and morning after… furiously beavering away on a mumsnet thread you started whinging about an ultimately very trivial issue re flight back.

Holiday didn’t exactly… relax you, did it?

Delightful. She is not whinging. You, however....are!

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