Rough' tax rises on the way

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What does this even mean? I can't take much more. Not with the rising energy prices and the absolute mess up of the mortgage interest rates rising.

How will people survive? Already we have not had pay rises and now we will all probably be taxed more.

I feel at the end of my tether. It's really affecting my mental health.

Except whenever local communities are given the choice, they vote for no new houses, no solar or on shore wind farms, no asylum seekers etc.

Still doesn't negate the fact that millions of pounds were spent on PPE that never appeared. Companies were happy to take money from the government knowing full well they couldn't deliver. Thats the literal definition of fraud. Why are these people not being chased to recoup the money?

No, "we" don't need tax rises. The very rich and large corporations need tax rises.

No we won't all have to. The only people who need to pay more tax are the very rich and large corporations.

The upward movement and holding of wealth is why we are in this situation, nothing more.

We have somehow sat by and allowed a society to form around us where companies can pay their staff so little that they require benefits just to live, while at the exact same time pay out 100s of millions to billions of pounds to shareholders each year.

A society where a 65,000 people own enough wealth to theoretically clear the national debt AND still have around £15m each.

A society where individuals earn more in one year than an average worker would earn in 10,000 years.

That's where the problem lies, those very few have exploited society for their benefit and to it's very limits. Now we need them to repay what they have taken.

I'm maybe being completely dense here but surely the government is making loads of money on the massive hikes in costs of fuel? Where's all that gone?

I hope the answer isn’t to tax normal basic rate working families more. DH and I work full time and this covers bills, food, petrol etc but no holidays, no luxuries etc. It’s getting to the point where there’s not much of a difference after tax and NI deductions between our net income and our relatives who don’t work (especially if you add the value of the free 2 year old childcare they get whilst not working compared to how much we pay for our 2 year to go to nursery while we work and similar ‘benefits’ like the extra cost of living payments and free school meals). When work doesn’t pay then it causes bad feelings (that I’m trying to bite my tongue about when SIL complains about not getting enough).

@stopitstopitnow very similar thing happened in my family except she had caught and tested pos for covid while in hospital. She was so far past her life expectancy that a strong breeze would have killed her but it was covid that was put on the death certificate.

600k people died in 2019 alone but we are still counting covid deaths as one long running total... as if it's for added shock value or something?

I made this point earlier @needmorecoffeeandcake. I think if they try and tax people more like thus everyone should just look at what they are entitled to and work less hours. They have taken the biscuit for too long. I'm not going to pay anymore tax, I'd rather work less and make do.

I actually think bring it on. People might finally wake up to the fact that government money is actually their money and they should have a say in how it is spent.

You don’t understand why the pandemic was a problem (think 00,000s of people trying to get into hospital); that’s fine. But it is done, and we need to deal with the situation we are in now.

Cruella is that you?
A bad flu - what nonsense. Tories have wasted so much taxpayer's money and they always accuse Labour of doing that. Pot, kettle, black...

The government neither owns nor sells fuel. It makes some money on tax, but that has been frozen.

misconduct in public office charges or something like that! www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/misconduct-public-office

Unfortunately you are talking about Rishi’s friends…

@cosmiccosmos it is getting more and more tempting.

It wasn't in either because he didn't have the test, so couldn't be added. I was told that if covid appeared anywhere on the certificate then it was included in the stats.

@Thebestwaytoscareatory Sunak isn't going to raise taxes for himself and his family though is he?

We could put a 10% wealth tax on the country's 177 billionaires and clear the fiscal hole and have enough left over to fix social care too, they have all seen their wealth rocket since 2015, indeed we have another 6 people become billionaires in the last 12 months.

Instead we will see the Super rich get richer & everyone else's tax thresholds will be frozen for a few years and the NHS waiting list will just keep getting bigger.

Shell have had record profits for 3 quarters running.

I hope these chiselling scumbags get hit with a massive windfall tax.

Yes I agree. Measures are so crude - household income is often largely irrelevant.

My grandparents live on a much lower household income than most families but are certainly not “poor” - they own their home outright, have nothing further to save for and have some savings to subsidise their lives.. They already own everything they could need or want. etc etc. We couldn’t live on their income, but it’s all relative.
20k/ 50k /100k a year in the North East is a different proposition to the same amount in London. It also depends on when or if you bought your house.. so much. I really don’t think many people can really opine on who is struggling and who isn’t.

100% correct

I’ll say again, you don’t understand why the pandemic was a problem. It wasn’t the deaths, it was the threatened vast overload of the NHS that shocked Boris and the government to change their policies. No government could have survived 10,000s gasping out their last breath in hospital carparks and corridors.

It's a shame we can't burn all that PPE that turned out to be useless and use the heat derived to generate electricity, really.

Only part of Shell is based in the UK. We can’t have every single country in the world wanting to tax international companies, although it would be nice.

My former company put all their prototype ventilators into a huge landfill site near Cambridge.