To think that something has to be done about the immigration crisis?

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But I don't know what? More than 900 people landed in Dover today, as I discovered when reading about the terrible petrol bomb attack on a detention centre. Detention centres overcrowded, more than 7 million pounds a day being spent on hotel rooms for illegal immigrants, horrendously slow processing of applications...people drowning in the channel and local people feeling angry and frustrated because of the strain on services. Not to mention the mental health toll on people living their lives in limbo! So what is the answer? Because I just don't know anymore but it feels like the system has completely broken down.

You can cut the population by forcing the world's population to wear onesies, what do people look like wearing them? The best contraceptive ever !

@BewareTheLibrarians so what's your solution? They've been trafficked from their home. They have no legal right to be here and are going to be harmed by being put to work doing god knows what... So whose responsibility is this?

@BewareTheLibrarians Can you give citations for the rest of your claims please?

Which 'claims' do you wish to challenge?

We don't owe economic migrants anything.

Of course not

but we do owe asylum seekers the due process they’re entitled to by law

surely everyone is well aware that the planet is overpopulated, I don’t know how anyone can disagree with that!

To follow on from that:

”(Albanian) men/boys tend to trafficked for labour, including things like being forced to work in cannabis factories, while women/girls are trafficked for sexual exploitation, both prevalent in the UK. Statistically those trafficked for labour tend to be brought through "irregular routes", such as channel crossings, whereas those trafficked for sexual exploitation are brought through "official ports", i.e. airports hence why you see more young Albanian men than women on boats. A confluence of circumstances, including global crisis, Covid etc, have led to increased destitution in Albania, making people easier targets for trafficking gangs to exploit, with complicity of the Albanian government, leading to an increase. The actual gangs aren't traveling by small boat and risking their lives though. Why would they? It is their victims who end up in that position, exactly the people who if provided with safety could give information to shut the gangs down.”

That’s who people are attacking by calling them “illegals” and “economic migrants”.

By the way, the UK’s anti-slavery commissioner resigned and hasn’t been replaced. Clearly the government are not at all serious about trying to reduce this problem.

This.

Yes if only

My daughter works with asylum seekers. They can't work until their application is approved and she said some of them have been here years. One was 10 years, but don't know how common that is. She said the men she works with do all want to work but they're not allowed.

I think what really helps people get a better understanding of the crisis is when millionaires like Lilly Allen start telling the rest of us what we should all be doing about it while doing fuck all themselves.

Don’t talk nonsense, our country has a great history of taking legally processed asylum seekers, people seeking asylum from war torn countries, in recent decades they include Bosnia, Afghanistan, Syria and Ukraine.

All of them, given that the last one was so completely wrong.

One of the main things we could do is to address climate change. The impacts are felt hardest in developing countries - food shortages lead to unrest which leads to political instability which leads to war, at every step refugees make the kind of choices any of us would make to get out.

Developed countries can't very well make other countries practically uninhabitable then complain that people want to live in our countries.

Well just as well someone cares about international law, as I don’t see how ignoring it will do the UK any favours.

And why do you think the UK should be exempt from helping asylum seekers?

You would think so wouldn't you, but apparently me saying such a thing is racist, sinister and fascist and that I should volunteer myself to be killed even though I did not remotely say anything close to "people should be killed"

How about making their own countries better? No shit dictatorships and despot regimes. No politicians looting the economy the coming to live in Europe. We can spend bilions propping up regimes so we can access their minerals or oil. Agree there are too many people. Populations have increased massively in the last 70 years

Bravo Caron. Bravo.

Does reading the thread and the explanations of what you’ve misunderstood ever cross your mind? Thread after thread you’re on, nothing goes in.

How do you legally claim asylum from a country now?

If you were in a country and wanted to claim asylum in the UK, how would you do it?

@HelloMrBond the key to that is "history". Unless current asylum seekers travel either to our shores or to the past they can't claim asylum.

Nature keeps trying to cut the world's population. We keep outsmarting it.

What would you say is the capacity is?

ie for Albanians wanting to be here do you have a limit in mind, or what’s the overall figure roughly if no limit?

And how does one arrive legally to claim asylum?

go on tell us