Just Stop Oil's daily protests

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Is anyone else concerned about where these daily protests will lead us?

The public are clearly getting more and more irritated by their antics. It's only a matter of time before one of the protestors are seriously injured.

I'm also worried that the government will ban certain types of protest as a result?

@electricdreaming There are lots of documented incidents of them being the reason people have died or been left paralysed because they couldn’t get to the hospital.

You are choosing not to see them.

I’m also not surprised to hear about your parents. That’s why I said should not are. These hippie woke types always bring up naive snowflakes who struggle with the reality of the world.

Yeah I didn’t really “get” the captain Tom thing, it’s really not the right person to be going for. I also agree with other posters saying they should be attacking the oil giants. I don’t know why they choose to block roads, probably just for disruption. Although I think it’s probably the quickest and easiest way for them to generate publicity and get themselves out there. I will always support the right to protest though. I think most people support the message, but not their ways of protesting. I don’t really “get” why they’ve chosen paintings and statues, but clearly they just want to generate publicity for the cause, which is fair enough IMO. Maybe we do need our lives to be disrupted a bit before we’ll force change.

Hmm, true, there has been a lot of work by climate scientists over the last 50 years to try and get policy makers to respond to the gravity of the situation

Has it worked? Has it fuck

Why has the govt just this week threatened to stop farmers putting solar panels on their own land?

This is an emergency

As for calling for them to be run over - you're all fucking psychopaths. Just in case you didn't know.

Yeah my parents are big old spliff smoking kumbaya-ing hippy socialists 🙄. You’re the one who’s getting offended and so irate, maybe you’re the snowflake? Please link just ONE incident of them delaying an ambulance that hasn’t been disproven. I’m always happy to learn.

A really uncomfortable thread to read. The teens I know are genuinely really frightened about their future and the scale of havoc and death already being wreaked across our planet. They organise rallies, write letters, petitions, campaigns etc etc. I've discussed with some of them whether they would ever go to the civil disobedience style of protest and though they have held off so far they can understand why others are pushed to it. They are desperate and governments are not listening fast enough. Perhaps some understanding of the enormity of the situation in our young people's futures is needed.

@waterwitch
'Delayed a couple of hours' that wouldn't be so bad if the world stopped as well, but it doesn't, babies are being born, people are dying, etc etc & these idiots are causing other people to miss those events, lose money, lose jobs, etc etc. they are idiots.

Damaging great works of Art just pisses people off, it doesn't advance their cause.

The ones on the bridge should have had cold water tipped on them, they'd have come down sooner then.

the ones throwing soup & glueing themselves to art.... how about we put them in sticks and let people throw soup over them?

It’s okay @YellowTreeHouse will be along in a minute to tell you you should be ashamed of the teens you know because they’re all too young and naive. They must be woke snowflakes, god forbid they’re aware of the way this planet is heading and are terrified for their future.

@electricdreaming I already gave you one. Lisa Webber.

They’ve got a point haven’t they? Fringe denial aside we all know we’re fucked, even without considering the environmental damage we’re reliant on resources that are rapidly depleting. Now’s arguably the best time to transition whilst there are still resources available to cushion the impact.

Turns out Insulate Britain had a good point too now we’re all facing massive energy bills….

I love the "ah but those protests were different" rhetoric. They weren't, they pissed a lot of people off, caused criminal damage and sometimes put people in danger. But history sanitises the ones that worked, the ones we think were worthwhile.

And that’s the one that’s been disproven - the ambulance crew themselves have said they weren’t disrupted by protestors.

They organise rallies, write letters, petitions, campaigns etc

So where in all that advice did you tell them to get an academic qualification and degree in the subject they are interested in and actually make a difference? Work for these companies and change them or do some scientific research them self's. Rather than sitting on the side lines an bleating like sheep, this is the issue they want change but don't want to put the real work in.

Far easier to destroy property and piss people off or yell like idiots in the streets.

They can go protest in America

I actually read a really interesting article about this once - “good radicalisation” and “bad radicalisation” depending on how society shifts. “Good” radicals were suffragettes, the civil rights movement etc., “bad” radicals” were things like the incel movement, IS etc. It was a really good read.

But do they have a solution?
Do we do without metals, concrete, electricity, drugs? A lot if these and much more rely on the petrochemical industry.

I read an interesting article once too

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/andrew-x-give-up-activism

I support both the aims and tactics of Just Stop Oil.

Climate change is the biggest issue my children will have to face in the future and our government is showing no leadership.

Sunak isn't even attending COP27.

“The activist, being an expert in social change, assumes that other people aren’t doing anything to change their lives and so feels a duty or a responsibility to do it on their behalf. Activists think they are compensating for the lack of activity by others. Defining ourselves as activists means defining our actions as the ones which will bring about social change, thus disregarding the activity of thousands upon thousands of other non-activists. Activism is based on this misconception that it is only activists who do social change — whereas of course class struggle is happening all the time.” - is there any evidence that activists do actually think like this?

I always eyerolled about the suffragettes actually. The suffragists were much more effective; that and the women’s help during the war.

the suffragettes just pissed people off

Lived experience here, if that helps @electricdreaming

But would the suffragists have succeeded without the suffragettes? Probably, but it would’ve taken an awful lot longer. We don’t have that time with the climate crisis.

I think i would support them more if they actually provided real world solutions...instead of using oil products for "the cause". Too stupid to realise how ironic it is.

Offshore renewable energy projects have specific granted planning permission to grow by 500% over the next ten years. There is even more currently in the planning process.

It’s all gone quiet over there @YellowTreeHouse still scouring the Internet to prove me wrong? Think your parents should be ashamed of themselves for raising someone who doesn’t even fact check their points. Maybe it’s you who’s actually the naive one to believe everything you read in the papers. Bless 🥺