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To think countryside people are condescending and moany all the time?

193 replies

Keyansier · 27/10/2022 13:48

Does anyone else think this too? Partly stemming from the story about the people who are trying to ban weddings from being held in their village and putting up signs like "Bride and Grooms not welcome here" in order to dampen their big day and ruin their wedding photos.

People who live in cities know how to share and live alongside people. Yes, tourists can be annoying but we don't scream at them (well I don't, anyway) or tell them they are not welcome and to go away. Yet people in the country think this is perfectly acceptable and not rude behaviour. And they constantly make awful comments about cities and city living and how they would rather die than live somewhere so busy but then when there is a lot of rainfall and their places are flooded they shriek and moan that people aren't helping them fast enough for their liking.

They literally think just because they live in the countryside that they own the countryside and get to say who can go there and what can happen there. And if you're "unfamiliar" they were literally stare at you. AIBU to think this is entitled behaviour and very annoying?

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NC5001 · 27/10/2022 13:51

What, all of us? 🙄

People who live in cities know how to share and live alongside people.

That'll be why we never read about neighbours falling out over noise, manky behaviour, street drunkenness...

jetadore · 27/10/2022 13:51

Most people are twats, especially tourists and people who live in the country.

Afterfire · 27/10/2022 13:54

Lots and lots of people (like me) who now live in the countryside used to live in a city. (I moved from South London to South Norfolk). It is possible to have experience of both and actually not be a complete arse.

SavoirFlair · 27/10/2022 13:56

I think there’s an awful lot of sense in your post @Keyansier but you’ll be shouted down by the very people who are shocked they recognise themselves a bit in your post

rickandmorts · 27/10/2022 13:57

Maybe we're moany because we're fed up of townie idiots not respecting the beautiful countryside we live in and who let their dogs shit everywhere and kill/ maul livestock or drop litter. Or because they have no idea about the countryside code. Last week my DP had two men with a massive dog square up to him in our field because they'd climbed the fencing and he politely asked them to get out as it's not a footpath and we have livestock. And instead of being decent with him they tried to be aggressive which was fun because I'm 8 months pregnant and didn't particularly want to see my DP get beaten up in front of me. Maybe that's why 🙃

BigglyBee · 27/10/2022 14:00

They literally think just because they live in the countryside that they own the countryside
People who live in the countryside often do literally own the countryside, though.

DomesticShortHair · 27/10/2022 14:01

The irony that you’re here, moaning about people moaning, has not escaped me.

cushioncovers · 27/10/2022 14:03

You get territorial twats anywhere op.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 27/10/2022 14:06

What's it like to be so metropolitan, you're provincial?

Firstly, you're talking about countryside people like we're all the same. We're no more a homogeneous group than urban people.

Secondly, for the most part, people who live in the country do, in fact, own the countryside. Fields are privately owned by farmers, livestock owners, dog owners - they're predominantly private property, despite how visitors to the countryside often view them as public spaces and treat them as such.

Footpaths, bridleways and byways often run across private land - it's not acceptable to stray from the path, to feed or interact with livestock in the fields, throw balls for your dog across the field and away from the path, stop for a picnic... Access points to fields are not parking spaces - you will block essential tractor access, or other legitimate uses.

Plenty of urban and suburban people come out into the countryside and manage to respect the "rules" of life in rural areas, but the minority treat it like their own playground. It's hardly surprising that country dwellers find the entitlement and poor behaviour of that minority frustrating in the extreme.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 27/10/2022 14:10

rickandmorts · 27/10/2022 13:57

Maybe we're moany because we're fed up of townie idiots not respecting the beautiful countryside we live in and who let their dogs shit everywhere and kill/ maul livestock or drop litter. Or because they have no idea about the countryside code. Last week my DP had two men with a massive dog square up to him in our field because they'd climbed the fencing and he politely asked them to get out as it's not a footpath and we have livestock. And instead of being decent with him they tried to be aggressive which was fun because I'm 8 months pregnant and didn't particularly want to see my DP get beaten up in front of me. Maybe that's why 🙃

I agree. Maybe "City people know how to share" translates as "Why shouldn't I be allowed to let my dog run in your fields/let my kids feed your horses/park in gateways?"

They literally think just because they live in the countryside that they own the countryside and get to say who can go there and what can happen there

Well if they live there they probably do own that bit. And there's a Countryside Code - aka "saying who can go where and what they can/can't do" - which exists for a bloody good reason. So yes, we do get a bit pissy when people think that code doesn't apply to them, because there can be very real consequences for animals and humans.

FiveMins · 27/10/2022 14:11

There is a more small minded mentally in villages. It's the reason I left. People are much more likely to be conservative with a small and big c, mildly racist/xenophobic, wary of outsiders and not very good with change. In cities you are exposed to
far more variety. More people, more diversity, more change. Of course you also have intolerance in cities but tends to be less.
My direct neighbours (6 houses) include atheist, Sikh, Muslim, Catholic/Hindu mixed couple and church of England households. There are lots going on in terms of different religious events, ways if doing stuff, and we all get on well. The village I lived in had one non white family and I was considered an outsider as came from the nearby town. It meant people bothered about the small stuff as there was little change and no much else to focus on.

rickandmorts · 27/10/2022 14:13

The post above hit the nail on the head! I'm just so fed up of entitled people thinking they can do what they want. Our precious chickens got mauled by a dog and the woman didn't even knock on our door and tell us. I had to use cctv and track her down, go round to her house and even then she was defensive and didn't want to pay the vets bills or pay to replace the dead ones because she said a fox could have got my chickens so it wasn't her problem that her dog had got them. And then tried to blame the fencing on my land for not being dog proof and allowing her dog in. Can you see why I'd be moany?

Keyansier · 27/10/2022 14:14

SavoirFlair · 27/10/2022 13:56

I think there’s an awful lot of sense in your post @Keyansier but you’ll be shouted down by the very people who are shocked they recognise themselves a bit in your post

Thank you @SavoirFlair and yes, I thought that might be the case tbh. I just think it's such common behaviour that it can't be just a coincidence, I know loads of people that say the same thing.

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lannistunut · 27/10/2022 14:14

cushioncovers · 27/10/2022 14:03

You get territorial twats anywhere op.

This. Most people are fine but there are always a minority who have to try and tell everyone else what to do.

LeMoo · 27/10/2022 14:15

People who live in cities can be equally intolerant of country people being unfamiliar/not knowing their ways

cantforthelifeofme · 27/10/2022 14:15

Well I live in the countryside and went to London yesterday only to be tut-tutted because I didn't know where I was going on the tube and was getting in people's way. I found it really stressful.

What's the score on this thread so far, "country people" vs. "city people"?

<snacks at the ready>

CaronPoivre · 27/10/2022 14:17

Hah. Maybe it's because some of us do own the countryside, or parts of it.

Maybe my dear, townies don't respect the guardianship of the land entrusted to those who own or manage the land and ignore basis etiquette.

Perhaps, sweetheart, rural dwellers want to be able to go about their business undisturbed by tourists or people who damage much and bring nothing. Brides filling village churches with helium balloons or leaving a once pretty but now rotting flower arch for someone else to remove. Perhaps rural dwellers don't want the green destroyed by 4x4 tyre ruts or be unable to get their cars past the many selfish parkers.

lovelypidgeon · 27/10/2022 14:17

I live in a fairly rural village near a tourist town in the countryside. Most people in our village welcome respectful tourists to the area- we know that a lot of people in the nearby town rely on tourism for their income and due to tourism there's a lot more in town for locals too (cafes, shops etc that wouldn't be viable without tourists). The majority of tourists are very welcome. However, I truly can't understand those who choose to visit the beautiful, peaceful countryside and then ruin this by leaving mess everywhere and causing a nuisance for everyone with loud music at all hours etc. There is a place nearby with a beautiful river where tourists from the nearest city flock to in the summer. I have no problem with this- I'd do the same if I lived in a city. Unfortunately on a sunny weekend there are often several large groups of people playing loud music, swearing, shouting and sometimes fighting all day and until the early hours. I'm sure to them this is just a one off party but for those living nearby this is a real problem. The OP mentions weddings- I can see that people living in a quiet rural location would find it annoying if every weekend their village is overtaken by loud music from marquees, pissed wedding guests shouting etc etc.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 27/10/2022 14:20

Aye op as people who live in the country side never move to a city and vice Versa, our population is indeed static and you can indeed treat them all as one mass, bigging up your team and slagging off the other.

aye. That’s all rather sensible 🤣

viques · 27/10/2022 14:22

NC5001 · 27/10/2022 13:51

What, all of us? 🙄

People who live in cities know how to share and live alongside people.

That'll be why we never read about neighbours falling out over noise, manky behaviour, street drunkenness...

Parking, trampolines, parking, barking dogs, fences, parking, bonfires, builders, did I mention parking ………

HappyHamsters · 27/10/2022 14:22

How many countryfolk do you know OP. I live in the country, I dont swear, stare or think I am important. I was bought up and lived in london for 45 years and plenty of people did not live alongside each other or share but there were plenty of riots, stabbings, racial abuse and moaning about trains and tube cancellations though.,

Keyansier · 27/10/2022 14:23

Maybe my dear,

Perhaps, sweetheart,

Demonstrating the condescending part.

I think people that live in the country often think people that don't are jealous of them which is why the superior, condescending attitude comes out.

And there is a very big difference between "tutting" at someone because they were slow and erecting signs telling non-locals to go home, or shouting at people who don't live in the country because they dared to visit. And then when people don't visit, they moan about that as well!

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abblie · 27/10/2022 14:24

If visitors ate not respecting their property etc they have every right to moan and put signs up! I seen a post where tourists illegally camped in a horse field and left gate open and horses got out

I would do the same if it was me

Squirrelsnut · 27/10/2022 14:24

What, ALL countryside people ALL the time? Give over.

twinmum2022 · 27/10/2022 14:25

Countryside people, what are you on about😂 I've lived in both, and without a doubt have found the "countryside people" nicer and more welcoming. But I've always been respectful of my surroundings which I imagine makes a difference.

Often the "countryside" is owned privately, either by farms or national trusts and there are rules in place. I imagine the "moaning" you mention, which is ironic given your lengthy moan, stems from people visiting the countryside, using it as if it's their own back garden and then leaving, often with a wake of rubbish, bbqs and dog poo left all over the place.

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