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AIBU?

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To think countryside people are condescending and moany all the time?

193 replies

Keyansier · 27/10/2022 13:48

Does anyone else think this too? Partly stemming from the story about the people who are trying to ban weddings from being held in their village and putting up signs like "Bride and Grooms not welcome here" in order to dampen their big day and ruin their wedding photos.

People who live in cities know how to share and live alongside people. Yes, tourists can be annoying but we don't scream at them (well I don't, anyway) or tell them they are not welcome and to go away. Yet people in the country think this is perfectly acceptable and not rude behaviour. And they constantly make awful comments about cities and city living and how they would rather die than live somewhere so busy but then when there is a lot of rainfall and their places are flooded they shriek and moan that people aren't helping them fast enough for their liking.

They literally think just because they live in the countryside that they own the countryside and get to say who can go there and what can happen there. And if you're "unfamiliar" they were literally stare at you. AIBU to think this is entitled behaviour and very annoying?

OP posts:
TodayInahurry · 27/10/2022 14:26

Lovely pigeon, you must live near me. Some visitors are a real nuisance, noisy, leaving rubbish everywhere and aggressive. Parking all over, blocking people in and then we have the dog poo…. During lockdown the police had to be called to deal with drunk and unpleasant people.

EugeneLevysEyebrow · 27/10/2022 14:26

I definitely noticed an odd city/country divide during Covid on mumsnet.

There were lots of angry threads from people living rurally or in villages talking about people in London (and other cities to some extent) bringing covid to their part of the country. As though the big bad city was disease ridden and their part of the countryside was pure and lovely.

I commented on one thread that covid could just as well spread from a someone from Devon or Suffolk travelling into London. But the overriding narrative on the thread was definitely anti-city and pro-country.

twinmum2022 · 27/10/2022 14:27

Keyansier · 27/10/2022 14:23

Maybe my dear,

Perhaps, sweetheart,

Demonstrating the condescending part.

I think people that live in the country often think people that don't are jealous of them which is why the superior, condescending attitude comes out.

And there is a very big difference between "tutting" at someone because they were slow and erecting signs telling non-locals to go home, or shouting at people who don't live in the country because they dared to visit. And then when people don't visit, they moan about that as well!

Anyone who's been shouted at, I can almost guarantee it's because they are doing something they shouldn't. Be it trespassing or not following rules of use. Can you give us an example of the situation which resulting is someone being shouted at?

Octomore · 27/10/2022 14:27

lovelypidgeon · 27/10/2022 14:17

I live in a fairly rural village near a tourist town in the countryside. Most people in our village welcome respectful tourists to the area- we know that a lot of people in the nearby town rely on tourism for their income and due to tourism there's a lot more in town for locals too (cafes, shops etc that wouldn't be viable without tourists). The majority of tourists are very welcome. However, I truly can't understand those who choose to visit the beautiful, peaceful countryside and then ruin this by leaving mess everywhere and causing a nuisance for everyone with loud music at all hours etc. There is a place nearby with a beautiful river where tourists from the nearest city flock to in the summer. I have no problem with this- I'd do the same if I lived in a city. Unfortunately on a sunny weekend there are often several large groups of people playing loud music, swearing, shouting and sometimes fighting all day and until the early hours. I'm sure to them this is just a one off party but for those living nearby this is a real problem. The OP mentions weddings- I can see that people living in a quiet rural location would find it annoying if every weekend their village is overtaken by loud music from marquees, pissed wedding guests shouting etc etc.

Does your nearby town begin with S, and the stretch of river have the initials BA?

If so, I recognise exactly what you're saying! (And you're probably in the same village as me)

CaptainThe95thRifles · 27/10/2022 14:27

And there is a very big difference between "tutting" at someone because they were slow and erecting signs telling non-locals to go home, or shouting at people who don't live in the country because they dared to visit. And then when people don't visit, they moan about that as well!

Tutting at someone who holds you up for a few seconds at the tube barriers is a less proportionate response than shouting or erecting a sign is to people endangering livestock, actively destroying property or eroding the slim margins on which farming currently survives.

Boomboom22 · 27/10/2022 14:28

I don't think you understand that fields etc are not parks or public land. Assume the village you speak of essentially has groups trespassing and trying to get everything for free. The countryside as you explain it doesn't exist except in national parks and even they have rules.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/10/2022 14:28

People are much more likely to be conservative with a small and big c, mildly racist/xenophobic, wary of outsiders and not very good with change

There's a reason why 'generalisations' are generally prefixed with the adjective 'sweeping' and you've just illustrated that nicely. Any chance of a link to the no doubt in-depth research you've done on rural and village attitudes?

PS I live in a city, before you think I'm a country dweller.

BlackaddersCodpiece · 27/10/2022 14:28

I live in the middle of the countryside, quite close to Durdle Door and Lulworth Cove, in a beautiful honey coloured village.

During the summer of 2020, when the Covid restrictions lifted for the first time, my village was taken over by people from big towns and cities who clogged our roads, parked in our driveways, used our gardens as TOILETS, swore at the locals and basically treated the area in which we LIVE as some sort of theme park that they could trash with impunity.

Honestly, it hasn't gotten much better since, only, we've had the rise of the influencer since. I've been yelled at for standing in a bus stop as a lass in a float dress wanted to use it for a photoshoot. I know many people in my village have gotten fairly irritated with their houses being used as a free social media backdrop.

Yeah, we're probably a bit more unwelcoming these days.

theemmadilemma · 27/10/2022 14:28

BigglyBee · 27/10/2022 14:00

They literally think just because they live in the countryside that they own the countryside
People who live in the countryside often do literally own the countryside, though.

Right? 😂

Funny how farmers get shitty about people trampling over their fields.

twinmum2022 · 27/10/2022 14:28

Can I also add that people who live in cities are equally vocal about how they couldn't bear to live outside of the city...

HappyHamsters · 27/10/2022 14:29

Maybe my dear, perhaps, sweetheart? You find these condescending like darlin, mate, guv, down the old apple n pears.

Cuppasoupmonster · 27/10/2022 14:29

Afterfire · 27/10/2022 13:54

Lots and lots of people (like me) who now live in the countryside used to live in a city. (I moved from South London to South Norfolk). It is possible to have experience of both and actually not be a complete arse.

The people who went from city to country are the worst for it in my experience! Particularly retirees. They feel they’re buying a ‘new life’ when they move, and that that includes the views and surrounding countryside, and become ludicrously hostile to other informers. They don’t seem to realise it doesn’t all suddenly belong to them.

Cuppasoupmonster · 27/10/2022 14:30

*incomers

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isthismylifenow · 27/10/2022 14:30

DomesticShortHair · 27/10/2022 14:01

The irony that you’re here, moaning about people moaning, has not escaped me.

😂😂

Bramshott · 27/10/2022 14:32

People who live in cities know how to share and live alongside people
I've generally found the opposite of this to be true - in cities you can choose to get on or not get on with your neighbours and others in your community, safe in the knowledge that you can find friends in other ways. In the country you pretty much have to get on with your neighbours because there's no-one else!

CulturePigeon · 27/10/2022 14:33

No - it's six of one and half-a-dozen of the other.

There's always been a country/city dichotomy, and the media love stoking it. You complain that country people don't like city folk and are unfriendly...but country people would say the same about them.

It's about adapting, surely. The people who get into situations are those who go from one to the other without adapting their behaviour and expectations. Don't moan about cockerels crowing or the smell of manure if you move to the country, but do as citizens do if you go to a town.

One thing that bugs me (as a veggie) is town dwellers complaining about meat production. No, farms are not cute little visitor attractions, and animals do have to die. If you eat meat, face up to the implications. If you can't bear the thought of what has to happen (like me) then stop eating meat.

Jaxhog · 27/10/2022 14:33

Having lived in a city and the countryside, there are snide, superior, and rude people everywhere. Fortunately, most people are friendly to you if you are friendly to them.

Luredbyapomegranate · 27/10/2022 14:34

Yup millions of people are all the same

Holding up signs an all

How dumb can you be?

spuddy56 · 27/10/2022 14:34

To be fair, I live in the countryside and completely agree with op. A lot of people here do look down on people from towns and cities. Ive got a lot of farmer friends on Facebook and they love posting pics of a city with blocks of flats and then a farm and saying which one is more sustainable? Not realising that the city person is likely to use far less energy to heat their home, probably walks more or uses public transport, no log burner etc. The country people run their agas, light their fires and drive their 4x4s around even just to the shops or school drop off. And no, they are not 'farmers' in a traditional sense...they just have a load of land they rent out to actual farm workers. No 4x4 needed. They also have a very nimby attitude and get hung up on small issues.

Kazzyhoward · 27/10/2022 14:34

I expect it's that many visitors to their villages, hamlets and general countryside tend not to have any respect. They don't care if they drop litter, leave farmer's field gates open, park their cars blocking narrow roads, drives and gateways etc. Just generally being a nuisance!

ZeroFuchsGiven · 27/10/2022 14:35

My life in the country: quiet, friendly, anyone will help anyone, village community spirit, decent fruit,veg and meat readily available and fresh, I can leave my doors unlocked, safe for my kids, no traffic noises, no light pollution, i can sit outside and hear nature both at day and at night, I could go on and on.

My life when i lived in a city: noisy, neighbours who would look away rather than a smile or hello, no community spirit, clique mothers at the school gate, having to keep doors locked, rowdy kids roaming the streets, not safe to walk alone at night, stupid amount of traffic, cant even see the stars with the lights of the city, all you can here is noise day and night, no sounds of nature, street gangs, drug dealers, spice heads slumped in the streets, prostitution, police cars constantly patrolling or breaking up fights. Again I could go on and on.

I know which I prefer thanks.

Roystonv · 27/10/2022 14:35

I am sorry op but your post just sums up the problem we suffer in the countryside both from the public and politicians. No thought for the different life we lead and no understanding of it and its importance. Shame on you, it is a working environment providing food for the country not a playground.

lovelypidgeon · 27/10/2022 14:35

Octomore · 27/10/2022 14:27

Does your nearby town begin with S, and the stretch of river have the initials BA?

If so, I recognise exactly what you're saying! (And you're probably in the same village as me)

No- not the same town/river so this must be a common problem

Kazzyhoward · 27/10/2022 14:37

theemmadilemma · 27/10/2022 14:28

Right? 😂

Funny how farmers get shitty about people trampling over their fields.

Usually because people don't stick to the right of ways and trample over crops etc, or leave gates open allowing livestock to escape, or don't put leads on their dogs whilst walking through fields of sheep, or walk through farm yards and fields that don't have a public right of way.