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to think Rees Mogg doesn't use the normal date in his letters but just picks whatever day it is such as Christmas Day, Trafalgar Day or St. Crispin's day?

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cakeorwine · 25/10/2022 18:39

metro.co.uk/2022/10/25/jacob-rees-moggs-hand-written-resignation-letter-is-slathered-with-pretention-17633956/

This is his resignation letter. Most politicians seem to use a letter done in Word. Or similar. His is handwritten. Very hard to read.

And the date. Do you think he just looks in his diary, sees it's St.Crispin's Day and writes that as the date?

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HoarderOfGlasses · 25/10/2022 20:14

What I don't really understand is why/ how his constituents looked at him, listened to him speaking and then thought he looked like the best bet as their MP .....

Ooh I can answer this one! My aunt is one of his constituents and she thinks he is the epitome of a gentleman with good, old-fashioned manners (manners are VERY important to her) and a good sense of 'British humour'.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 25/10/2022 20:14

He is only too well aware that what other people think of him is completely irrelevant

Indeed, and the whole point of his affections is to rub in this fact, whilst also attracting the approbation of the surprisingly large segment of the population who enjoy looking up to people who despise them.

The irony is that truly posh people don't do this. They like to stay under the radar, so as not to provoke the peasants into dusting off the guillotine.

JanglyBeads · 25/10/2022 20:18

Oh I didn't know about his background, that IS interesting!

Zib · 25/10/2022 20:22

I am not a fan of JRM's political opinions, at all. However, he does have good manners, treats people from all political persuasions reasonably and is polite and calm in the face of abuse.

Mostly good manners, actually. I think the lounging on the commons benches during the Brexit debate was disgraceful. I was trying to be constructive. I failed. But I hope he has a long and philanthropic retirement now.

Endlesssummer2022 · 25/10/2022 20:25

I can’t believe he’s gotten so far with his ‘upper class old school gent’ shtick. He’s rich but the affectation is completely fake. Does anyone know anyone who thinks this charlatan is a genuine toff? And even if they do, are they impressed?

It’s embarrassing for everyone involved.

cakeorwine · 25/10/2022 20:26

Zib · 25/10/2022 20:22

I am not a fan of JRM's political opinions, at all. However, he does have good manners, treats people from all political persuasions reasonably and is polite and calm in the face of abuse.

Mostly good manners, actually. I think the lounging on the commons benches during the Brexit debate was disgraceful. I was trying to be constructive. I failed. But I hope he has a long and philanthropic retirement now.

Having read and heard some of his contributions in Parliament, I am not sure if I agree with that - especially when he was Leader of the House.

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C8H10N4O2 · 25/10/2022 20:28

Attention seeking, always has been according to acquaintance who was a contemporary at Oxford. Makes you wonder what he feels the need to compensate for. Possibly being new money.

Endlesssummer2022 · 25/10/2022 20:31

He’s lazy as all get out too. More of a blocker than a mover. His constituency need to have a long hard think about how this reflects on them.

Unseelie · 25/10/2022 20:32

That article is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

DeliberatelyObtuse · 25/10/2022 20:36

C8H10N4O2 · 25/10/2022 20:28

Attention seeking, always has been according to acquaintance who was a contemporary at Oxford. Makes you wonder what he feels the need to compensate for. Possibly being new money.

Totally agree

Absolute attention seeker

TwoRockSalmonAndAHaporthOfChips · 25/10/2022 20:36

St Crispin is the patron saint of cobblers, which seems apt.

Cornettoninja · 25/10/2022 20:39

Does anyone know anyone who thinks this charlatan is a genuine toff?

His nanny, literally his nanny who now looks after his children and went to university with him. Apparently she used to hold a book to shield his neck from getting sunburn.

he really can’t cut the apron strings with that one.

Lagattolove · 25/10/2022 20:40

i imagine the phrase ‘let them eat cake’ has come out his mouth at some point (yes I know this is not an accurate quote from Marie Antoinette ) but I can still see him lording it while being fanned eating grapes in a toga.

notprincehamlet · 25/10/2022 20:49

It's also National Greasy Foods Day - he should've opened with that

JanglyBeads · 25/10/2022 20:57
Grin
Snowjive2 · 25/10/2022 21:01

A little background info for those puzzled by JRM’s behaviour:

twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1584877788586446849?s=21

elephantseal · 25/10/2022 21:04

nonono1 · 25/10/2022 19:19

What’s with all the strange characters in the Metro article? I can barely read it!

They are variations on a lower-case s - see www.livescience.com/65560-long-s-old-texts.html

Very common from old Bible verses.

Lotusmonster · 25/10/2022 21:05

He quit so he could focus on his Etsy business

to think Rees Mogg doesn't use the normal date in his letters but just picks whatever day it is such as Christmas Day, Trafalgar Day or St. Crispin's day?
lljkk · 25/10/2022 21:06

I find it funny ppl cite JRM's granddad being a lorry driver.

Lorry drivers are salt of the Earth. Not that interesting.
However, same grand-dad actually became a cars salesman after driving the lorry.
Can we all go with "car salesman" is a dodgy profession, lends itself to dodgy dealings??

Battlecat98 · 25/10/2022 21:11

Dogsogdog · 25/10/2022 19:09

He’s a nob

That's it really.

Puckthemagicdragon · 25/10/2022 21:19

I know lots of Catholics who are similarly formal and have quirky ways. They are so utterly English, perfect gentlemen, deeply kind and thoroughly unfashionable. JRM is one of the nicest members of parliament - even the SNP think so. Just lazy idiots who think otherwise. www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/12/mhairi-black-may-quit-depressing-parliament-after-single-term-as-mp

Puckthemagicdragon · 25/10/2022 21:22

If lounging on benches upsets you then avert your eyes

JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue · 25/10/2022 21:30

Shame that the Metro goofed by missing one of the occasions to use that character - "two-thousand-and-twenty-ſecond"

C8H10N4O2 · 25/10/2022 21:37

Puckthemagicdragon · 25/10/2022 21:19

I know lots of Catholics who are similarly formal and have quirky ways. They are so utterly English, perfect gentlemen, deeply kind and thoroughly unfashionable. JRM is one of the nicest members of parliament - even the SNP think so. Just lazy idiots who think otherwise. www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/12/mhairi-black-may-quit-depressing-parliament-after-single-term-as-mp

The Rees-Moggs are not one of the quirky old English Catholic families though - its an affectation. The Catholicism entered the family via JRM's Irish American grandmother.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 25/10/2022 21:43

C8H10N4O2 · 25/10/2022 21:37

The Rees-Moggs are not one of the quirky old English Catholic families though - its an affectation. The Catholicism entered the family via JRM's Irish American grandmother.

Exactly. The Catholicism schtick is as fake as the rest of the persona.

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