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to think Rees Mogg doesn't use the normal date in his letters but just picks whatever day it is such as Christmas Day, Trafalgar Day or St. Crispin's day?

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cakeorwine · 25/10/2022 18:39

metro.co.uk/2022/10/25/jacob-rees-moggs-hand-written-resignation-letter-is-slathered-with-pretention-17633956/

This is his resignation letter. Most politicians seem to use a letter done in Word. Or similar. His is handwritten. Very hard to read.

And the date. Do you think he just looks in his diary, sees it's St.Crispin's Day and writes that as the date?

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nocoolnamesleft · 25/10/2022 19:36

I didn't think of it as a Catholic thing. I thought he was being typically pretentious. But on the other hand, I did think that it was cool to be reminded that it was St Crispin's day, as I had forgotten today was the anniversary of Agincourt. I'm just relieved J R-M didn't strip his sleeve and show his scars.

MarshaMelrose · 25/10/2022 19:40

I love it when Henry V says

And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.

Particularly when his voice rises at the end. It sends shivers down my back.

I love that JRM remembers the date and celebrates it. Why shouldn't he write his letter personally in ink? Printed letters are so boring. Anyone could have written it.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 25/10/2022 19:40

Of all the things to object to about JRM, his quasi-archaic approach to dating letters is one of the least consequential things. In fact, it's probably one of the most charming facets of his personality. Although in his case, that bar is set spectacularly low...

amspeechless · 25/10/2022 19:43

He is a pretentious twat…am surprised he found a mare to breed with TBH !

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 25/10/2022 19:43

Hiddenmnetter · 25/10/2022 19:26

St Crispin's Day was the day that the Battle of Agincourt was fought, so R-M was probably trying to make some tedious point about English exceptionalism. Probably sees himself as the spiritual heir to Henry V, or some such crap.

no, st crispin’s day is the 25th October, it’s a catholic feast.

I mean I don’t know if that is the usual way he dates his letters but it’s certainly not an invalid way of doing it, just not really usual these days.

Well, every day is a saint's feast day, if you're a Catholic, but it is also the date of the Battle of Agincourt. Both things can be true, you know...

St Crispin's Day features heavily in the speech that Shakespeare has Henry V give to his troops, before the battle ("We few, we happy few...."). The English trounced the French in the battle, so it's ERG-gold. They're probably watching the movie on freeze-frame, while drinking mead, as we speak.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 25/10/2022 19:45

I'm just relieved J R-M didn't strip his sleeve and show his scars

Not to mention holding his manhood cheap <<shudder>>

MarshaMelrose · 25/10/2022 19:48

St Crispin's Day was the day that the Battle of Agincourt was fought, so R-M was probably trying to make some tedious point about English exceptionalism. Probably sees himself as the spiritual heir to Henry V, or some such crap.

Basically you have no idea why he used St Crispin Day as a date so you're just making stuff up because you don't like him.

LeChat0 · 25/10/2022 19:51

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Cornettoninja · 25/10/2022 19:52

Think Nanny has found this thread.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 25/10/2022 19:52

MarshaMelrose · 25/10/2022 19:48

St Crispin's Day was the day that the Battle of Agincourt was fought, so R-M was probably trying to make some tedious point about English exceptionalism. Probably sees himself as the spiritual heir to Henry V, or some such crap.

Basically you have no idea why he used St Crispin Day as a date so you're just making stuff up because you don't like him.

Oh no, you have seen through my carefully constructed facade of neutrality.

MarshaMelrose · 25/10/2022 19:54

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 25/10/2022 19:52

Oh no, you have seen through my carefully constructed facade of neutrality.

I'm a very perceptive person.

JanglyBeads · 25/10/2022 19:55

The weird characters in the Metro article are the archaic typeface for S. They've tried to make it in tune with Rees Mogg!

Yes, this is probably his sole endearing quality! Although I quite liked the panama he was snapped in this summer.

MarshaMelrose · 25/10/2022 19:57

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Withdrawn at OP's request

That's not true. That tweet was fully debunked.

JanglyBeads · 25/10/2022 19:57

At the very least it will have pleased him to use that way of dating, with the reference (for the cognoscenti) to a great English victory over those continentals....

Lessstressedhemum · 25/10/2022 19:58

The odd letters are the Olde English forms of s and sh. It's just a style choice to play up the pretentious archaism of JRM.

flowertoday · 25/10/2022 19:59

Jacob is just a bit of a wombat surely, and this results in his pretentious and irritating behaviour .The trouble is he will always have the last laugh as he is absolutely minted, with all the privileges that accompany this state of affairs. He is only too well aware that what other people think of him is completely irrelevant.

What I don't really understand is why/ how his constituents looked at him, listened to him speaking and then thought he looked like the best bet as their MP .....

JemimaPiddleDick · 25/10/2022 20:04

He did it because he’s a fanny

LadyEloise1 · 25/10/2022 20:05

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 25/10/2022 19:13

It's an attention-seeking affectation, just like everything else he does.

I agree

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/10/2022 20:06

Ugh l hate him🤮

Undead undead undead🦇🦇

Lunde · 25/10/2022 20:06

He moved his companies to Ireland so that he could continue to benefit from access to EU markets

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/10/2022 20:07

JemimaPiddleDick · 25/10/2022 20:04

He did it because he’s a fanny

This is an insult to fannies!

TotteringByGenteeley · 25/10/2022 20:09

Good riddance JRM. What a totally irrelevant specimen he is. He once claimed that state educated people have the intelligence of a pot plant. I'd be surprised if he had a fraction of that intellect.

IntentionalError · 25/10/2022 20:11

It’s a ridiculous affectation, like everything else Rees-Mogg says, wears or does. He isn’t a proper toff. His dad was a jobbing journalist, not a land-owning aristo. His whole persona is an act and he’s a figure of fun to real poshos like Nicholas Soames who called him an ‘absolute fraud’.

Bideshi · 25/10/2022 20:12

St Crispin is the patriot saint of shoe and boot makers so a really auspicious day to be getting the boot. Plonker.

canyouextrapol · 25/10/2022 20:13

He basically said that anyone that wasn't privately educated would be incapable of writing an articulate letter.