Brexit legislation that could result in 2,400 laws disappearing overnight – including a ban on animal testing for cosmetics, workers’ rights and environmental protections.

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Does anyone know about this? The government seem really keen to rip up everything. AIBU to be worried or is it not going to happen?

www.gov.uk/government/news/the-retained-eu-law-revocation-and-reform-bill-2022

www.theguardian.com/law/2022/oct/24/post-brexit-proposals-mean-2400-laws-could-disappear-lawyers-warn

Because the politicians didn't give go ahead.

Was the "they are rewriting everything" just an assumption, alongisde the size of GLD available for this?

This is the problem with people. They just assume.

@Applesandcarrots whats gld?

Government legal department

Ah thanks.

my mind BOGGLES at the amount of work this is.

it is all quite simple at the theoretical level.

but the actual work.

this is yet one more thing so manybpeople
dodnt understand- the basic beuracratic infrastructure that the eu provided - the expanded civil service needed to fill that role is huge

so many things thst peope don’t think will happen will hsppen

Please stop scaremongering OP

www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-to-set-its-own-laws-for-its-own-people-as-brexit-freedoms-bill-introduced#:~:text=All%20EU%20legislation%20will%20be,of%20the%20country%20and%20grow

And please read this bit

" As a result of the bill, around £1 billion worth of red tape will be removed, giving businesses the confidence to invest and create jobs, while transforming the UK into one of the best regulated economies in the world"

It is lots of work so it doesn't end up in disaster. A LOT. I would urge anyone who thinks it's simple to go and read some actual regulation for example. It requires knowing where the EU law was implemented, how, to what extent, what will happen in different situations repeal/amend/assimilate etc.
It's enormous undertaking.
And civil servants had to work on this, putting extra resources on it, while they were listening to how xx thousands needs to go.

Othings cannot stop just so this is done. There isn't enough people to do it on this ridiculous timescale and it will cause issues and slip ups and maybe very much less rights. Maybe that's on purpose, maybe not...

So it's ok because the Government said it will be ok and not to worry, they've got it?

So we should stop talking about it and let them get on with it without discussion?

During the ref.
When Henry VIII powers were brought in
When they made the Brexit Deal
Numerous times since.

People don't care.

Unless things affect them.

When they expect certain rights and they vanish

Exactly.

This isn't news.

This is just people suddenly waking up to reality.

I agree it is mad.

But then so was triggering Article 50 before any discussion had taken place in parliament or with the EU.

Virtually every piece of law that protects women is EU law, things like maternity leave, equal pay, sex discrimination. Almost all of it was either EU law or was a requirement to join the EU.

Link to the government dashboard.

public.tableau.com/app/profile/governmentreporting/viz/UKGovernment-RetainedEULawDashboard/Guidance

Imagine that even just third of these will have to be replaced by end of 2023 (not given extension).
The amendments or replacement statutory instruments have to be drafted, consulted on etc... They have to go through readings...
Frankly, either normal business stops or this gets goven more realistic deadlines and approaches🤷🏻

@cakeorwine So we should stop talking about it and let them get on with it without discussion?

There's been 6 years to discuss it.
What does your MP think/propose to do?
I assume you've raised your concerns with them?

@Applesandcarrots Imagine that even just third of these will have to be replaced by end of 2023 (not given extension).

No.
Many of them are duplicates of laws that we already had on the Statute Books.

More info here ; commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8375/

There isn’t even a definitive list of laws under expert review. Don’t expect this shit show of a government to be so proactive. It’s an excuse to sweep away all kinds of protections for humans, animals and environment. Alongside free ports and charter cities. Neoliberalism on steroids.

‘Scaremongering….’

You mean observing that there’s a process in motion that may lead to consequences and outcomes that will be disadvantageous or harmful to many people?

So ‘scaremongering’ means ‘employing informed foresight’.

Ok I was giving an example of the time restraints if they have to go through drafting and reading of even just third of the SIs. Which may well happen since many will need aome form of preserving.

No one knows how many will have to be changed yet.

It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to just leave them all, get rid of this ridiculous sunset date. Then, if a law is causing a problem, look at that particular law. The argument that this ties business up in red tape, I don't buy. For example, how exactly is the law about discarding clam shells in Italian waters harming UK businesses? I'm sure loads of these laws are like that, just sitting on the statue books making no difference and only useful as a trogen horse for this extreme right wing government to get rid of rights and protections that actually matter.

That one has been repealed anyway according to the dashboard

And could you tell me what damage the clam shell law would have been doing sitting on our law books? Genuine question, I don't know about these things. Does it have to be looked at each year by civil servants, or evidence submitted by business showing they are complying?

We need a right to litter specific clam shell? 😁
Freeddom

I also don't see why it couldn't be left alone at least for time being. It's a lots of posturing for news papers imho.

It isn't - Acts of Parliament are not on the list, but regulations are.

So for example, the Consumer Rights Act and Equality Act are ok, but the Consumer protection from Unfair Regulations are not. That said, some is "soft law" and incorporated into FCA regulations or advertising codes and would not be affected.

There is also another aspect to this, which is the fact that the devolved administrations can choose to keep regulations. I can completely see a situation where Scotland will say they will keep everything within their competence. So we end up with more differences between the home nations.

Sunak may be anti-EU but having a legal vacuum isn't good for business - they need to know what they need to comply with and removing legal requirements can be as disruptive as introducing them, if you've set up your systems accordingly. Having tariffs wouldn't be either.

Sunak needs to bin this Bill now. JRM has gone.

Sunak may be anti-EU but having a legal vacuum isn't good for business - they need to know what they need to comply with and removing legal requirements can be as disruptive as introducing them, if you've set up your systems accordingly. Having tariffs wouldn't be either.

Thing is, Brexit itself is terrible for business, that made no difference. This sunset thing is completely online with the cult of Brexit, it doesn't matter how much damage it does, leave voters and newspapers will cheer frantically.