Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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This is not democracy.

He was selected on the basis that he was the only candidate to reach the pre determined level of support. Every conservative MP knew the criteria and those that had the guts to pin their name to a candidate favoured Sunak.

So you're bitter towards everyone, who didn't go under, and who received furlough?

😁

I'm intrigued to learn how my racist Tory-voting SIL and her husband will be voting in the next GE.

It's designed to get foreign investment by multinationals who then employ people here. It's the equivalent of Ireland's low corporate tax (just in a different format).

My job was effected too, the US company that owns the business took the opportunity to close 70 odd stores. Without the furlough programme they would have had to come up with a good reason.

That wasn’t the fault of the furlough programme, they just used it their advantage.

When did Johnson ever have 18 million voters? 13.2 people voted Tory in 2019, if those are the people you mean.

While he's at it, he could re-divert funds fraudulently claimed to all of those who fell between all the gaps and who had fuck all money coming in for over a year

and that

Actually, no. My issue isn't in fact with people who were furloughed (despite my snarky comments about banana bread). But I am very, very bitter towards the politicians who came up with the lockdown policy.

uncivil and you know as well as I do that the bar was set so unnaturally high, as to ensure there was a coronation of the man chosen by the suits.

In any leadership contest in the past it has never been anything like a 100 backers required or anything like it. The word is many MPs were indeed threatened aggressively over the weekend.
We will one day know the truth, but one thing is very clear that Sunak has no mandate to run the country, he doesn't even have the mandate from his own party members.

I do not expect him to last very long at all, the sharks will be circling and no one is going to forget or forgive his terrible treacherous behaviour or what has happened as a consequence. The party is about to descend into open civil war and good luck to Sunak, my god he is going to need it.

I'd double check his accounts there Madam.

@Quirkyme im sorry, I didn’t mean to come across in any offensive way. I know racism exists.

It just genuinely didn’t occur to me he wasn’t white, as in I hadn’t put any thought into it, until I read that post. I just registered him as Sunak. Not Sunak the Asian. As far as I’m concerned, as long as he gets the job done, I could care less about his race, religion, background, whatever else.
(I really hope that makes sense and hasn’t come across offensive)

Anyways. I’m going to shut up. I know what I’m trying to say but doing an awful at it. I know there will always be people in the world who are just racists w and no matter how much people try to tell them otherwise they will still be the same.

This post is an example of incorrect information and spectacularly missing the point - all in one go.

11.7 million workers were furloughed, that’s a tad higher than 4%. More like a quarter.

Stop perpetuating the false dichotomy that the choice was between furlough or letting people starve. The choice was between locking down everyone and only locking down the elderly. A bad choice was made that cost this economy half a trillion pounds in the short term and much more in the long term.

You didn't know Sunak was not white? Huh.

Will we have another eat out to help out?

And, to top it off, these laws were introduced to benefit all the English, Scottish and Welsh working, middle and upper class men (and it was men, which is why domiciliary status is inherited via your father only - their female counterparts were largely disregarded) who made their fortunes in India in the 1800s under the East India Company and, once it was nationalised, the Raj. These men went overseas to make their fortunes and resented having to pay tax to the British government when they didn't live in the country, despite being British citizens. Their "permanent homes" were in India, apparently. They wanted to make their money in India, where they paid no taxes, and not owe the British government anything on the basis they didn't live there. A concession was granted to them because the EIC was, to our modern minds, inconceivably powerful and rooted in Parliament.

Obviously I knew he wasn’t white.

My point was, It didn’t occur to me to just think of him as Sunak the Asian. I just thought of him as Sunak. I’m appalled at why people are hating and judging him on his race rather than his actions.

I agree @sst1234

I wanted to see the reactions of party members in on-the-spot interviews and I haven't been disappointed! 😅
I think the test of his longevity will be how he reacts to the energy crisis given the comments he made during the hustings during the summer..

@Stars71 you’re hilarious! I thought you were serious. You had me going for a bit😀

I totally get it, in my day <waves stick> this was normal. I am not white. Mixed so not easy to label which leads to sooo many questions.

I do remember huffing that I didn't vote when Blair and Brown did their thing but as I say - in this case, there's no competition so what did members want?

and if Truss is such a disaster for the Tories then why do they want another vote if they feel a terrible mistake was made? So confusing.

Yes 4% seems very out

Not a Conservative voter but I do think he was their best option. With that said, given that their previous "best" was Johnson and Truss, the bar was not exactly high.

Also, he is British and the PM doesn't need to be "English" (although wasn't he born in Southampton - which surely makes him... English?)

His wife's tax affairs are what Conservative voters voted for. If you don't like people being able to do what she has done with regards to her tax affairs, then don't vote Conservative.

It is weird to vote for a party that allows that much legal tax avoidance and then complain about it when someone does it.

I am actually quite glad to see an Asian guy leading the Tories. It really shakes things up. Labour has benefitted from votes from BAME communities when they haven't always deserved them. Welcome Rishi.

AGREE.

@mathanxiety
I'm a little perplexed as to your interest in British politics given that with you proudly hold onto your Mumsnet royalty username, so I happen to know that you're Irish and live in the US. 🤔