To think working class shows?

[MrsBonnie]

I work in a lovely school where they’ve all had very different upbringings to me. Very much working class here. Sometimes I think it shows with little things I’ve noticed.

Having sugar in tea, using a tumble drier, not having a cleaner, using the wrong glasses for different drinks (I.E using the same one for everything!)… what else am I missing that excludes me from the club 😂 sometimes I will mention something like the above and get “oh I never use a tumble drier” … then I just think oops have I said something weird there?

Sometimes I think they’re judging me with things I say and do but I hope not! I grew up being homeless at a certain point, council houses, single teen (but amazing) mum, a very specific type of circle. I feel like Mum did everything she could to get us out of that way of life, but I can’t help but feel I don’t belong sometimes. Or that I stick out like a sore thumb. Am I being daft? Imposter syndrome a little bit!

I’d rather be seen as WC but rich rather than ‘posh’ but be broke!

I totally understand the aim to earn money and become so well financially. And I also understand the importance of being proud of one's heritage!

But I don't understand the urge to feel 'classified' in a certain 'class'. That seems completely archaic to me.

I can tell by looking at someone's face without hearing them speak. 8/10 I'm right.

You’ll have to give up your current job and go into the building trade with that sort of sugar in hot drink intake 😂. Unless of course you already are a builder, and your colleague was shocked you don’t have more!

Of course you can change class and will do so automatically depending on your education whether you like it or not!
I'm probably a lot older than many of you. Not retirement age yet, but heading that way in 7 or 8 years...
I was brought up by post WWII parents to believe that working class equals manual labourers and includes those who have never managed to attain work placement due to education. We need the working classes and should not try to force someone who is really gifted at plastering, wiring, plumbing, farming to be academic - its just wrong!
Lower middle class equals educated to degree level in a low grade of employment. I think these people might suffer the most financially, but our society would fall apart without them. This includes nurses.
Middle middle, doctors, solicitors, teachers, lawyers and small business owners
Upper middle as the last 2 but with inheritance/wealth and possibly generational UM ancestry, privately educated
Upper class, royal connections or inherited titles rich or poor is immaterial.
There is a BIG thing to remember here. Before the 1860s we only had upper class and then everyone else. There was no such thing as middle class or any distinction. It is a Victorian invention. I spent far too much time tracing my family tree. My working class ancestors were land managers, tutors, milliners, laundry owners.Even a fish smoker and an umbrella manufacturer! All were working class regardless of accomplishment pre 1860.
Why am I saying all this? Because IT DOES NOT MATTER! We all have an important role to play and whether you use the "right" glass or put 13 sugars in your tea is nothing to what we should be doing, which is appreciating each other.

Your post was sad and made me feel sad too. You are a wonderful person and never doubt that for one minute. Ignore what others say about not using tumble dryers or the odd remark which makes you feel kind of excluded. I grew up in a northern city but have no discernible accent, however, when I married and moved south I could see differences. Friends don't mix with other cultures (I'm white English as are they) and they hardly ever wear make-up or talk about the cost of anything: clothes, restaurants they've been to, what they've bought etc. Conversations are very sterile and I know absolutely no more about them than when we first met. It's like a clique.

My husband always said to me. “You can take the girl out of the council but you can’t take the council out the girl”
he was winding me up a little of course but there is always a bit of truth!
I’m proud of my background! I managed to bag a middle class boy and an upper middle class life through working hard!
I think it adds colour. Be proud!

Aside from class I can see why people do become shocked by the extra sugar. It is unnecessary. I only have organic honey at home.

My partners sister stayed over once, there was no sugar so she did an online grocery shop and said to him “so you can finally have a real cup of tea” 😂🙄

Honey and sugar are both carbohydrates composed primarily of glucose and fructose.
honey is slightly higher in calories than sucrose. It consists primarily of sugar
You are also putting sugar in your tea. Organic or otherwise - although I am pretty sugar you cannot obtain inorganic sugar...

lol auto correct! I WAS pretty SURE you cannot get inorganic sugar. I have checked and any type of sugar, including honey, is an organic compound. You may be paying extra for the printers to add the word "organic" to your organic honey.

I don’t put honey in my tea, just saying that’s the only sweetener we have.

Well, its still sugar. Just tastes a bit odd in Yorkshire tea. Fine in green tea though.

I hope I did not creep you out @FreshCop You have organic sugar in your house!

How funny. I’m English but have lived in the US for twenty years. The only people who line dry clothes are dirt poor and live in the rural South.

@GarlandsinGreece what a shame! so many people missing out on freshly air dried clothes with that delicious scent you cannot manufacture.

@myfaceismyown , I agree that we in the US should shift for environmental reasons, but all I remember from childhood is line-dry clothes covered in pollen and a giant spider lurking in one of the towels!

As a child I remember the fairly small garden being full of clothes drying with no real space to play.

@GarlandsinGreece Ewwww! Maybe not a problem so much in Alaska. California might have gators in your garters though...

Oh come on, you’ve got to be a bit of a knob to be ‘shocked’ by a spoonful of sugar in a cup of tea. Are these people shocked by all forms of unnecessary sugar consumption? They must be permanently shocked. And unless they only consume ‘necessary’ sugar themselves, which is incredibly unlikely, they are massive hypocrites to boot.

We all have our differences that say something about our past, where we have come from. At the end of the day, no one is better or worse because of those things or where they started- you get a?£eh&es in all walks of life, and only the a?£eh&es will judge, be they middle, upper, working class or whatever other walk of life they identify with. You sound lovely, be proud of who you are.

Really? Do tell…

Organic sugar? Surely a contradiction in terms / connotations. Lol

Out of the council? I think that suggests someone is a councillor. Shouldn’t he have said, “…out of the council estate” or something like that?

I’m afraid he doesn’t sound very middle class!

Someone should have told HMQ she was doing it all wrong!

I don't have sugar in my tea. Only have it in the house for baking. And I don't have a tumble dryer as expensive and prefer to line dry.

Could someone tell me about the different glasses please? Tumblers for water, but what are the other distinctions please?