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MrsBonnie · 2022-10-23T20:00:50+00:00

I work in a lovely school where they’ve all had very different upbringings to me. Very much working class here. Sometimes I think it shows with little things I’ve noticed. Having sugar in tea, using a tumble drier, not having a cleaner, using the wrong glasses for different drinks (I.E using the same one for everything!)… what else am I missing that excludes me from the club 😂 sometimes I will mention something like the above and get “oh I never use a tumble drier” … then I just think oops have I said something weird there? Sometimes I think they’re judging me with things I say and do but I hope not! I grew up being homeless at a certain point, council houses, single teen (but amazing) mum, a very specific type of circle. I feel like Mum did everything she could to get us out of that way of life, but I can’t help but feel I don’t belong sometimes. Or that I stick out like a sore thumb. Am I being daft? Imposter syndrome a little bit!

ExistenceOptional · 06/02/2023 23:52

winterpastasalad · 02/02/2023 20:10

I watched Stacey Dooley's Sleepover and in quite a few separate episodes the MC people mocked Stacey for her class. The worst was the landed gentry family, they kept making reference to her name/accent/home town and laughing... According to MN the UMC are so incredibly lovely and would never point these things out.

Lots on MN are cap doffers.
The landed gentry family does not surprise me at all.

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 07/02/2023 20:35

Probably already been said but one thing that stands out to me is at the school gates, those who come from wealthy families are the ones in the scruffiest uniforms and with tangled hair, whereas those from working class families tend to have clean, ironed uniforms and polished shoes/the girls have neat hairstyles with pretty hair bows etc.
I can only presume this is because those who are wealthy aren’t concerned with trying to impress? Whereas maybe children who’s parents are working class remember what it was like to be “the poor kid” and strive to
make sure their children are better turned out, so hopefully don’t get the same stick they got? That’s my take on it anyway!

Endlesssummer2022 · 07/02/2023 20:46

I was about to come on and joke about the MN cliches around all UC people being well mannered and friendly, with cars and homes covered in dog hair and children looking like something out of Oliver Twist. And look at a couple of the most recent posts!

Maybe this is why I keep seeing some families around my area going out of their way to dress like tramps or the parents dress like crazed children’s tv presenters and the kids look like urchins. It all looks very contrived and wannabe Helen Bonham Carter.

Ballcactus · 07/02/2023 22:07

TheKeatingFive · 30/01/2023 15:26

I opened this forgetting it was the thread about tumble driers. 😂

I have nothing to add to this madness. As you were.

😂😂😂👏🏻

Johnisafckface · 08/02/2023 06:07

Sugar in tea is middle class??? Then I’m happy to stay in the middle 😂

waynehill · 08/02/2023 06:29

emmaliz · 23/10/2022 21:12

I always wonder why people are so against sugar in hot drinks when many of them consume plenty of sugar in other forms

There is growing concern about the impact of sugar consumption on health. Excessive sugar intake has been linked to various health problems such as obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and tooth decay. People might be more conscious of the sugar they consume in hot drinks because they are often consumed in large quantities, whereas sugar in other forms, such as in baked goods, might be consumed in smaller amounts. Additionally, the sugar in hot drinks is often not combined with fiber, protein, or fat, which can slow down its absorption, whereas sugar in other forms is often accompanied by these nutrients.

Liorae · 08/02/2023 06:36

waynehill · 08/02/2023 06:29

There is growing concern about the impact of sugar consumption on health. Excessive sugar intake has been linked to various health problems such as obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and tooth decay. People might be more conscious of the sugar they consume in hot drinks because they are often consumed in large quantities, whereas sugar in other forms, such as in baked goods, might be consumed in smaller amounts. Additionally, the sugar in hot drinks is often not combined with fiber, protein, or fat, which can slow down its absorption, whereas sugar in other forms is often accompanied by these nutrients.

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So, you think the sugar in soda, etc has fibre, protein or fat?

Dyslexicwonder · 08/02/2023 08:01

Also sweet drinks don't give saitey. When I worked in child obesity services our first piece of advice was "drink only milk or water" amazing how this alone could often kick-start significant weight loss. There is no evidence that "diet" drinks help at all.

Emotionalstorm · 08/02/2023 08:30

Isn't the idea of social class just something that was created to make certain people feel like they're better than others?

I live and own multiple properties in zone 1, London with my partner and we are both white collar professionals. We both attended elite schools and universities. We get our groceries from Borough Market and Planet Organic. In that respect I suppose we are 'middle class'.

We use the same cups for everything and we use the tumble dryer for our sheets. We don't have a cleaner. I suppose that also makes us 'working class'.

There's no hard and fast rule for these things and it's best not to concentrate too much on it. I personally think that the people that are super hung up on these concepts are a bit snooty.

eastegg · 09/02/2023 23:18

waynehill · 08/02/2023 06:29

There is growing concern about the impact of sugar consumption on health. Excessive sugar intake has been linked to various health problems such as obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and tooth decay. People might be more conscious of the sugar they consume in hot drinks because they are often consumed in large quantities, whereas sugar in other forms, such as in baked goods, might be consumed in smaller amounts. Additionally, the sugar in hot drinks is often not combined with fiber, protein, or fat, which can slow down its absorption, whereas sugar in other forms is often accompanied by these nutrients.

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I think it’s the other way round. The sugar in a hot drink is normally a relatively small amount compared to the hidden stuff in many foods and drinks. You mention baked goods. Wanna bet which has the most sugar and least good stuff, my cup of tea or an almond croissant (which I can’t stand, it’s too sweet). You’re on. I say it’s the croissant.

Pinkdafodils · 10/02/2023 12:38

The sugar in a hot drink is normally a relatively small amount compared to the hidden stuff in many foods and drinks.

So it's best to avoid both sources of sugar - don't eat/drink sugary foods/drinks and don't add extra sugar to your hot drinks

MissWings · 10/02/2023 12:50

Of course it shows. It shows in a myriad of ways just like middle class and upper class shows.

I am working class origins and I am certain to someone else there are many, many clues of that.

tenthousandmaniacs · 10/02/2023 16:02

I’m upper middle class and I was born in an upper middle class family as well. However people in the UK think I’m working or below working class (does it even exists?) because I’ve got an accent, I wasn’t raised here etc.
British class system is absolutely laughable and ridiculous.

Pinkdafodils · 10/02/2023 16:06

I Wonder how those of raised outside of the UK are seen in terms of class?

What 'class' is someone in who grew up in continental Europe, speaks several languages and came to the UK to study??

5128gap · 10/02/2023 16:12

I certainly hope so. I'd hate to think people might look at my education, job, income, dietary choices, hobbies, choice of names for children and pets and when I prefer to take my gratification, and somehow 'misclass' me. I identify as WC. Therefore I am.

sageandrosemary · 10/02/2023 16:21

Emotionalstorm · 08/02/2023 08:30

Isn't the idea of social class just something that was created to make certain people feel like they're better than others?

I live and own multiple properties in zone 1, London with my partner and we are both white collar professionals. We both attended elite schools and universities. We get our groceries from Borough Market and Planet Organic. In that respect I suppose we are 'middle class'.

We use the same cups for everything and we use the tumble dryer for our sheets. We don't have a cleaner. I suppose that also makes us 'working class'.

There's no hard and fast rule for these things and it's best not to concentrate too much on it. I personally think that the people that are super hung up on these concepts are a bit snooty.

And this mindset is part of the problem, it really is 🙄

MissWings · 10/02/2023 16:26

@sageandrosemary

Elite educations and supposedly still can’t grasp this 🤦‍♀️.

tenthousandmaniacs · 10/02/2023 16:28

Pinkdafodils · 10/02/2023 16:06

I Wonder how those of raised outside of the UK are seen in terms of class?

What 'class' is someone in who grew up in continental Europe, speaks several languages and came to the UK to study??

We are seen as below working class (not sure the term exists). My family is upper middle class and I speak several languages (I was privately educated and also studies abroad). Of course my English is not perfect and I’ve got an accent which I’ve got no intention to conceal.
My DH family is working class, his mother stopped school when she was 16 and she looks down on me.

Pinkdafodils · 10/02/2023 16:34

We are seen as below working class (not sure the term exists).

Great - maybe we should create a 'class' for us multilingual and multicultural Europeans? I also have an accent which I'm actually happy with and even a little proud of.

Tratjymp · 10/02/2023 18:18

Tha comes back here, with thy fancy ways!