Would you vote conservative again?

[Erica56]

I wouldn’t vote conservative again after the total shambles that have been the last 12 years. They’re constantly infighting rather than sorting out the economy and have left the NHS in a total mess. No care for people suffering from the cost of living crisis

It's poor show at the moment but it wouldn't stop me voting for them if they ever get their shit together.

Same as labour. Total shitshow under Corbyn but it wouldn't stop me voting for them if they ever get their shit together as well.

I've voted for both in the past. I'd have to look at the policies of all the parties at the next election before I decided how to vote.

I've

As someone correctly said earlier in the thread, it’s the swing voters who decide an election, not people like me who would never vote conservative or people who would never vote anything else.

I am hoping that this time, the swing voters have enough common sense to see that the current government only cares about the few.

And at least the Tories know what a woman is

This line really is becoming so tedious and stands up to fuck all scrutiny.

The Tories 'know what a woman is' because they've been ripping every single fucking shred of support for women away for 12 years.

The Tories are no friend of women. Any attempt to piggyback a satellite debate to paint them as somehow being 'pro-women' is disingenuous beyond all belief.

This kind of bullshit confirms the view that anyone voting Tory in 2022/23 is either stupid, callous, or both.

People don’t understand that at present, every decision is on a knife-edge

Chucking that unchecked mini-budget at a volatile market like a fucking grenade was a bit bloody stupid then, wasn't it?

In an ideal world I would vote Green but I don't think they'd realistically have a clue how to run the country if they were actually voted in, and they don't have a clear policies on many things outside the environment.

I'm so glad you wouldn't OP.
Please try to turn more Tories. Fingers crossed there are thousands more like you!

It's ok to change your mind folks!

Yeah, compared this this shitshow!
What a pathetic thing to say.

Voted Tory before but wouldn't vote for them in the next election. They've been in power too long, no talent left. Just the dregs of the party remaining. Not convinced Labour have any talent or clever people either. If you ask me to choose between the two it's a bit like asking someone if they'd rather die from ebola or the plague, both equally terrible options.

The Green Party here in Scotland are proudly boasting of their much heralded rent freeze becoming law. It’s made renters’s lives much much worse wherever it’s been tried in the world, but if you’re as thick as the Scottish greens you just don’t care to think beyond the nice headlines. I’d love to vote for a party who care about environmental issues, but there just isn’t one!

The word again suggests I have previously voted for them. Never have, never will. What they have done to this country in the last 12 years is akin to sabotage. They deserve to be kicked out of power for a very long time if assigned to oblivion is not possible. It makes me seethingly angry.

There’s no magic money tree

Can't believe people are repeating failed PM Theresa May's soundbite with any seriousness! The Tories have now well and truly shat on their reputation (which was somewhat unfounded anyway) for fiscal responsibility.

I've never voted Tory. They are purely about self interest. They have really plumbed new depths of late though. They have made us into a complete laughing stock across the world.

Which was a joke. It's very well documented. In 12 years of Tory rule the public finances are in a far worse state. And so are public services. We can't blame COVID for all of it, so don't try.

What problem do you have specifically with Starmer's knighthood? Politics of envy?

First world problems

No, I can't possibly bring myself to vote Tory even though they seem to be the only party that knows what a woman is. But I can't vote Labour or Lib Dem either, because they definitely don't. So I guess I'll be spoiling my ballot paper.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned on here (apologies if I've missed it) is the fact that the Tories have seriously jeopardised peace in NI, which has got to be one of their biggest crimes. And I've just seen Steve Baker on Sky explaining how the hard right ERG nutters in the Tory party won't accept any divergence from the approach to the EU - he actually said they would bring down any government that tried it like they have done before. I mean he may be a cunt, as described by KGM, but at least he's being honest there.

That's why I can't understand people saying they can't vote Labour due to the hard-left/momentum/links with the unions. KS has massively distanced the leadership from all of this and he's constantly being criticised by two of the biggest unions in the country. Yet the factions in the Tory party have torn the party apart, taking the country with it and brought down PMs and are now controlling which PM we get foisted upon us now and somehow some people still see them as the stable /sensible/moderate option? I just don't get it.

The tory party exists to ensure that the wealth of the country remains in the hands of the few. I don't belong to that demographic so there's no reason for me ever to vote for them - why would I vote to keep the rich and privileged rich and privileged at my expense?
Plenty of tories/tory party donors are doing very nicely from all this flux.

I agree that peace has been jeopardised in Northern Ireland. And by rights Brexit shouldn't have gone ahead because of this. We are now where we are.

Question: What will Keir Starmer do better for Northern Ireland?

Why is it at your expense?

@Halloweenshock my local greens (Scotland) are such seriously awesome people, I can’t understand why they’ve tethered themselves to the party. 🤷‍♀️

I suspect because that’s true. Power and wealth are being concentrated in a diminishing number of hands. It’s trickle up economics.

That doesn't really answer the question. Why is it at your expense?

Of course it's at our expense - if we have poor healthcare and other outcomes because public services are not being properly funded in order to concentrate wealth in the hands of the already-wealthy, than the expense to us all is massive.

There won’t be much room under Labour for further funding. A one off WFT is only £8bn and I can’t imagine scrapping non dom will raise much, as they have the most options in terms of countries welcoming their wealth.

As an economist said tinkering around the edges wont bring enough which would mean tax rises. I’m not against this in theory but they are at a 70 year high apparently atm so will be higher - and does it deepen recession